FINALLY, Ocean garbage collection is underway!

[MarathonMike]

Well it's about time, there is enough floating garbage in the Ocean to support a continent. Let's see a garbage collector from every G-7 nation and two each from China and India.

Plastic fighting pipe named Wilson takes on the biggest ocean trash pile on Earth | Daily Mail Online

This is what can happen when GWarming is NOT the ONLY enviro issue. For too long that over-hyped fear mongering has knocked back any other major enviro discussions.

Great news to see that there are NEW Enviro topics to discuss and other problems are getting addressed.

It would be kinda nice to see a multi country cleanup effort but I'm not counting on it. China and India at a minimum need to show up being by far the major polluters.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well it's about time, there is enough floating garbage in the Ocean to support a continent. Let's see a garbage collector from every G-7 nation and two each from China and India.

Plastic fighting pipe named Wilson takes on the biggest ocean trash pile on Earth | Daily Mail Online

This is what can happen when GWarming is NOT the ONLY enviro issue. For too long that over-hyped fear mongering has knocked back any other major enviro discussions.

Great news to see that there are NEW Enviro topics to discuss and other problems are getting addressed.

It would be kinda nice to see a multi country cleanup effort but I'm not counting on it. China and India at a minimum need to show up being by far the major polluters.

Pressure by diplomacy on the countries --- coupled with incentives for IndoChinese volunteers to go out and clean it up themselves. THAT"S where it's coming from.

But it's not entirely true that it's "not our garbage". A LOT of it is. The US recycling programs are on the skids. Can't make money recycling. So they load it up on "slow boats" to go to IndoChina for processing. And they just dump the stuff THEY can't make money from. So --- it IS our problem in that sense.

Maybe they need controls on the folks shipping from the US to inspect and insure that whoever they are selling it to is certified to deal with the waste stream from the processing. Lots to do. Been delayed too fucking long.

Glad it's getting done. Possible opportunities to KEEP our recycling on OUR shores and design better processes for handling it.

 

[mamooth]

Best way to deal with plastic in the USA is to burn it. Seriously. It's not worth recycling, but it can be burned for energy.

The only consumer things worth recycling are steel, aluminum, newspaper and brown corrugated cardboard. Maybe glass. Everything else is better off burned. Put it in a landfill, it just decays and emits greenhouse gases, so you may as well get some energy out of it.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Well it's about time, there is enough floating garbage in the Ocean to support a continent. Let's see a garbage collector from every G-7 nation and two each from China and India.

Plastic fighting pipe named Wilson takes on the biggest ocean trash pile on Earth | Daily Mail Online

Cool. I always get a kick out of Mr. Trash Wheel:
Mr. Trash Wheel - Wikipedia

 

[flacaltenn]

Best way to deal with plastic in the USA is to burn it. Seriously. It's not worth recycling, but it can be burned for energy.

The only consumer things worth recycling are steel, aluminum, newspaper and brown corrugated cardboard. Maybe glass. Everything else is better off burned. Put it in a landfill, it just decays and emits greenhouse gases, so you may as well get some energy out of it.

Thanks for the fuzzy thinking. Sure can't burn coal cleanly, but junk plastic garbage -- that shit don't stink.

The greenies in Britain got a hefty dose of reality when they strutted the streets campaigning for "clean green biomass conversion".. Well they GOT IT. But they found out -- it's just another name for garbage incineration. NOW -- the same feckless greenies want it gone. Even burning the wood waste that they were promised these plants would burn -- it was obnoxious. But then -- the UK ran OUT of wood waste and had to start IMPORTING the stuff making it twice as expensive.

Finally -- inevitably (and predictably) the waivers were written to burn garbage. Which is the favorite junk food of a real incinerators --- and the Greenies had a cow.

Leave your energy dependencies in the hands of clueless lefties and you'll be hunting mink again to keep from dying in the wintertime..

 

[MarathonMike]

Isn't it possible to process junk plastic into building materials? I thought I read that somewhere.

 

[flacaltenn]

Isn't it possible to process junk plastic into building materials? I thought I read that somewhere.

Yeah.. Done all the time. But the resulting GOOD stuff like Trex is 2.5 times more expensive than wood or wood composites.

And there's just not enough wood decking and siding to account for all of it. And Trex can only use relatively uniform and clean plastics in its recycling formula.

 

[danielpalos]

Well it's about time, there is enough floating garbage in the Ocean to support a continent. Let's see a garbage collector from every G-7 nation and two each from China and India.

Plastic fighting pipe named Wilson takes on the biggest ocean trash pile on Earth | Daily Mail Online

California should invest in recycling. Better recycling facilities make it more convenient for consumers. Everything going into a recycling container should be repurposed.

 

[toobfreak]

Very cool

Not what you said when you trolled my thread on Trump signs save our seas act.

But that's what you do...troll.

Trump had nothing to do with the OP's topic. Also, signing that act was among the most basic of his duties. The only way it would be noteworthy is if he hadn't signed it.

In other words, his signing it meant nothing, but his NOT signing it would have meant everything?

 

[MarathonMike]

It would seem there could be a lot of opportunity for less specialized products than Trex. Great stuff BTW I did my deck with Trex and the Arizona sun doesn't even phase it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Pres. Trump Rolls Back Obama-era Ocean Protections | The Weather Channel

 

[danielpalos]

More opportunity for the Golden State to reclaim capital and clean up our oceans at the same time.

 

[evenflow1969]

Well it's about time, there is enough floating garbage in the Ocean to support a continent. Let's see a garbage collector from every G-7 nation and two each from China and India.

Plastic fighting pipe named Wilson takes on the biggest ocean trash pile on Earth | Daily Mail Online

We could have been dragging nets across this p[ile for years./ Why did it take so long? Now all we have to do is figure out a way to make it profitabe to clean the mess. Maybe a floating factory right over it turning that plastic into usable products?

 

[danielpalos]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and industrial automation to help with social costs!

 

[flacaltenn]

Pres. Trump Rolls Back Obama-era Ocean Protections | The Weather Channel

Sad music back tracks generally are a clue to mindless propaganda. Should have tipped you off. That move is a disagreement about oil development, not ocean garbage. Does not mean more "Deep Ocean" drilling or reduced regulation thereof. In fact, the Deep Water Horizon had resident "regulators" pretty much living on board. And THEIR role in the disaster is still very questionable.

But the Obama move was a total OVER-reaction to the accident. I'm eating gulf sea food. It's great. And the effects are far less than predicted. Because the Gulf has natural leaks of oil and nat gas much larger than the contamination from ONE rig accident.

 

[there4eyeM]

This pollution is the result of the companies producing it not paying for cleaning it up. They pay for distributing it, why not for picking it up?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Well it's about time, there is enough floating garbage in the Ocean to support a continent. Let's see a garbage collector from every G-7 nation and two each from China and India.

Plastic fighting pipe named Wilson takes on the biggest ocean trash pile on Earth | Daily Mail Online

This has been sorely needed for a long time.

 

[flacaltenn]

This pollution is the result of the companies producing it not paying for cleaning it up. They pay for distributing it, why not for picking it up?

It's not largely dumped by the US. The companies in SE Asia generating it are barely solvent. They have no ability to fund a clean-up.. But -- it IS largely OUR garbage that we're shipping over there (along with some of China's).

Recycling as a WHOLE needs to be rethought and redesigned. And if WE can't recycle it, cleanly and efficiently, MAYBE it shouldn't be SENT overseas...

 

[Shrimpbox]

Why can’t they just invent a bag that biodegrade? All of this stuff should be figured out at point of production. Or it should be made to be recyclable.

 

[danielpalos]

This pollution is the result of the companies producing it not paying for cleaning it up. They pay for distributing it, why not for picking it up?

California could make money by improving recycling technologies. we have a large coast and could benefit from any evolution of reclamation processes.