Felons caught selling sniper rifle...did not need to license gun owners to catch them.

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Yes....two felons were caught not only in possession of a gun they are not allowed to own or carry...they were caught trying to sell it.....

they did not need to license gun owners, the police used an informant...just like all other arrests they do....


the felons stole the guns....did not pass background checks, did not get a license, did not get any other legal paperwork for these guns....

Not one gun law pushed by anti gun activists was needed to catch and arrest these two felons and not one of their gun laws stopped these felons from getting guns they could not legally have in the first place.....

Felons indicted for selling .50-cals to undercover agents

According to court documents, on Nov. 20, an informant told a federal agent that he knew two men, Rangel and Boone, who were trying to sell a .50-caliber sniper rifle for $3,500, so the agent had the informant arrange a meeting with the men.

Later that evening, federal agents staked out the home as the informant met the pair to see the rifle. During the meeting, the informant texted the agent a picture of himself posing with the rifle. However, the informant did not buy the rifle.

A few hours later, about half past midnight, the Modesto Police Department stopped Rangel in his car. When asked if he had weapons in his car, Rangel said, “Officer, you know the question you asked me about the weapons, I have this thing, it’s a metal piece under my seat. I don’t know if it’s a weapon.”

Officers then searched the car and found the bolt to a .50-caliber rifle and an EO Tech red-dot scope. Rangel told officers that he found the items while “dumpster diving.” The police released him with a warning but took the items.

On Nov. 25, an undercover agent, officer and the informant arranged a meeting with Boone to buy a rifle. After parking his car, Boone brought a rifle case inside the garage where the men were standing.

As the group made small talk, the informant opened the case, revealing a Desert Tactical .50-caliber rifle. The agent picked up the gun, but Boone stopped him. “Can you not do that?” he asked.

The agent told Boone that he wanted to see the rifle before he bought it, put it back in its case, and asked how much.

“The agreement was for four,” Boone said, referring to $4,000.

As the agent paid, the officer asked about ammo and other rifles, and Boone told them he had 2,000 rounds at another location and another rifle that was bigger and can strap to a tank.

Less than a month later, on Dec. 16, the undercover agent, officer and an informant met with Rangel to buy the other .50-cal rifle.

After they paid him $15,000 for the weapon, a Karma Metal Products .50 caliber rifle, which looks like a Browning .50-cal machine gun, the agent asked Rangel how quick he could come up with more firearms. Rangel told him that he knew a guy who could get some AR rifles, and another guy who could get some claymore mines and night vision goggles.

Roughly 10 minutes after the buy, Modesto police pulled over Rangel’s car and arrested him. They asked him about the $15,000 and he told them he won it playing Yahtzee. However, he eventually admitted to the sale and stealing the rifles in November from a man he used to know. He said he tried to re-establish contact with the man — they had lost touch because of a dispute over a woman — and when he did, he noticed the two rifles and stole them.
 
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Yes....two felons were caught not only in possession of a gun they are not allowed to own or carry...they were caught trying to sell it.....

they did not need to license gun owners, the police used an informant...just like all other arrests they do....


the felons stole the guns....did not pass background checks, did not get a license, did not get any other legal paperwork for these guns....

Not one gun law pushed by anti gun activists was needed to catch and arrest these two felons and not one of their gun laws stopped these felons from getting guns they could not legally have in the first place.....

Felons indicted for selling .50-cals to undercover agents

According to court documents, on Nov. 20, an informant told a federal agent that he knew two men, Rangel and Boone, who were trying to sell a .50-caliber sniper rifle for $3,500, so the agent had the informant arrange a meeting with the men.

Later that evening, federal agents staked out the home as the informant met the pair to see the rifle. During the meeting, the informant texted the agent a picture of himself posing with the rifle. However, the informant did not buy the rifle.

A few hours later, about half past midnight, the Modesto Police Department stopped Rangel in his car. When asked if he had weapons in his car, Rangel said, “Officer, you know the question you asked me about the weapons, I have this thing, it’s a metal piece under my seat. I don’t know if it’s a weapon.”

Officers then searched the car and found the bolt to a .50-caliber rifle and an EO Tech red-dot scope. Rangel told officers that he found the items while “dumpster diving.” The police released him with a warning but took the items.

On Nov. 25, an undercover agent, officer and the informant arranged a meeting with Boone to buy a rifle. After parking his car, Boone brought a rifle case inside the garage where the men were standing.

As the group made small talk, the informant opened the case, revealing a Desert Tactical .50-caliber rifle. The agent picked up the gun, but Boone stopped him. “Can you not do that?” he asked.

The agent told Boone that he wanted to see the rifle before he bought it, put it back in its case, and asked how much.

“The agreement was for four,” Boone said, referring to $4,000.

As the agent paid, the officer asked about ammo and other rifles, and Boone told them he had 2,000 rounds at another location and another rifle that was bigger and can strap to a tank.

Less than a month later, on Dec. 16, the undercover agent, officer and an informant met with Rangel to buy the other .50-cal rifle.

After they paid him $15,000 for the weapon, a Karma Metal Products .50 caliber rifle, which looks like a Browning .50-cal machine gun, the agent asked Rangel how quick he could come up with more firearms. Rangel told him that he knew a guy who could get some AR rifles, and another guy who could get some claymore mines and night vision goggles.

Roughly 10 minutes after the buy, Modesto police pulled over Rangel’s car and arrested him. They asked him about the $15,000 and he told them he won it playing Yahtzee. However, he eventually admitted to the sale and stealing the rifles in November from a man he used to know. He said he tried to re-establish contact with the man — they had lost touch because of a dispute over a woman — and when he did, he noticed the two rifles and stole them.

Why aren't they catching all the gang members with guns?

Glad these guys were caught.
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the criminas do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.
 
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If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it
Well since it seems like I wandered in on your IDIOT argument BASED on "if" let me try. That THIEF might be dead "IF" that LEGAL gun owner was HOME to guard his house.

You can take your "IF" argument and shove it up your ass. "IF", the next Gawddamn thing you will be doing IS whining and crying for the criminals.

Well sh8t, grow the hell up and get yourself some "act right" or at the very least some balls. "IF", damn what a fu#king retard.
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.
They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked :thup:
 
Yes....two felons were caught not only in possession of a gun they are not allowed to own or carry...they were caught trying to sell it.....

they did not need to license gun owners, the police used an informant...just like all other arrests they do....


the felons stole the guns....did not pass background checks, did not get a license, did not get any other legal paperwork for these guns....

Not one gun law pushed by anti gun activists was needed to catch and arrest these two felons and not one of their gun laws stopped these felons from getting guns they could not legally have in the first place.....

Felons indicted for selling .50-cals to undercover agents

According to court documents, on Nov. 20, an informant told a federal agent that he knew two men, Rangel and Boone, who were trying to sell a .50-caliber sniper rifle for $3,500, so the agent had the informant arrange a meeting with the men.

Later that evening, federal agents staked out the home as the informant met the pair to see the rifle. During the meeting, the informant texted the agent a picture of himself posing with the rifle. However, the informant did not buy the rifle.

A few hours later, about half past midnight, the Modesto Police Department stopped Rangel in his car. When asked if he had weapons in his car, Rangel said, “Officer, you know the question you asked me about the weapons, I have this thing, it’s a metal piece under my seat. I don’t know if it’s a weapon.”

Officers then searched the car and found the bolt to a .50-caliber rifle and an EO Tech red-dot scope. Rangel told officers that he found the items while “dumpster diving.” The police released him with a warning but took the items.

On Nov. 25, an undercover agent, officer and the informant arranged a meeting with Boone to buy a rifle. After parking his car, Boone brought a rifle case inside the garage where the men were standing.

As the group made small talk, the informant opened the case, revealing a Desert Tactical .50-caliber rifle. The agent picked up the gun, but Boone stopped him. “Can you not do that?” he asked.

The agent told Boone that he wanted to see the rifle before he bought it, put it back in its case, and asked how much.

“The agreement was for four,” Boone said, referring to $4,000.

As the agent paid, the officer asked about ammo and other rifles, and Boone told them he had 2,000 rounds at another location and another rifle that was bigger and can strap to a tank.

Less than a month later, on Dec. 16, the undercover agent, officer and an informant met with Rangel to buy the other .50-cal rifle.

After they paid him $15,000 for the weapon, a Karma Metal Products .50 caliber rifle, which looks like a Browning .50-cal machine gun, the agent asked Rangel how quick he could come up with more firearms. Rangel told him that he knew a guy who could get some AR rifles, and another guy who could get some claymore mines and night vision goggles.

Roughly 10 minutes after the buy, Modesto police pulled over Rangel’s car and arrested him. They asked him about the $15,000 and he told them he won it playing Yahtzee. However, he eventually admitted to the sale and stealing the rifles in November from a man he used to know. He said he tried to re-establish contact with the man — they had lost touch because of a dispute over a woman — and when he did, he noticed the two rifles and stole them.

Why aren't they catching all the gang members with guns?

Glad these guys were caught.


Brain..they catch gang members with guns all the time...they just don't lock them up. the former police commissioner in Chicago complained that they would catch gang members with illegal guns and they would be back on the street in 48 hours.

the gang member who murdered Hidiya Pendelton...the girl from obamas neighborhood....had been arrested as a felon carrying an illegal gun...he was out in days and a month later shot the girl.


Obama has dropped federal gun crime convictions by 33% as well.......the prosecutors and judges do not take felons with guns seriously.
 
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If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it
Well since it seems like I wandered in on your IDIOT argument BASED on "if" let me try. That THIEF might be dead "IF" that LEGAL gun owner was HOME to guard his house.

You can take your "IF" argument and shove it up your ass. "IF", the next Gawddamn thing you will be doing IS whining and crying for the criminals.

Well sh8t, grow the hell up and get yourself some "act right" or at the very least some balls. "IF", damn what a fu#king retard.
Why would a criminal steal a gun or try to buy one illegally if it was perfectly legal for them to go buy one at the store
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.
They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked :thup:



Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.
They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked :thup:



Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.
It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works :thup:
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.
That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil


No...your gun control is stupid and does nothing to stop gun crime......

our gun control....arresting people who actually commit crimes with guns...works.

You target people who don't commit crimes with guns.....we target people who use guns to commit crimes.....

our way stops gun crime...your way punishes normal, law abiding gun owners.
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.
They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked :thup:



Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.
It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works :thup:

You are a slow one aren't you.
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.
That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil


No...your gun control is stupid and does nothing to stop gun crime......

our gun control....arresting people who actually commit crimes with guns...works.

You target people who don't commit crimes with guns.....we target people who use guns to commit crimes.....

our way stops gun crime...your way punishes normal, law abiding gun owners.

Felons can't own guns = gun control
 
Another moronic thread premise.


As this thread shows...you do not have to license gun owners to catch gun criminals, since these two criminals did not get a gun license to own their their stolen guns....thus defeating the entire purpose of licensing guns owners.

Registering guns...another favorite of anti gun loons......these two criminals are not require, by law, to register their illegal guns. Why? Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States.....so the whole point to registering guns is pointless from the start, and on top of that, these guns would be registered to the guy hey were stolen from...not the actual criminals using them for crime...this, again, showing hoe registering guns is stupid.

also, these two did not go through a background check...not at a gun store, a gun show and did not buy the guns from an individual...they stole them....thus making current federally mandated background checks.....and any future universal background check pointless....


how did the cops catch them....they used an informant. they can do that now without any need for new gun laws.

As we have always poined out...the only gun control that works...catching gun criminals and locking them up....and we already have the laws we need to do this...as this post shows.....
 
If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it


No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.
That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil


No...your gun control is stupid and does nothing to stop gun crime......

our gun control....arresting people who actually commit crimes with guns...works.

You target people who don't commit crimes with guns.....we target people who use guns to commit crimes.....

our way stops gun crime...your way punishes normal, law abiding gun owners.

Felons can't own guns = gun control

Yes...real gun control works....the gun control you support does not...as we have pointed out time and again.
 

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