Felons caught selling sniper rifle...did not need to license gun owners to catch them.

[Brain357]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.

They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked

Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.

It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works

You are a slow one aren't you.

Arresting them for just having a gun is gun control. No gun control and no arrest till they committ a crime with a gun. You have shown a form of gun control works. Bravo.

 

[westwall]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.

That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil

Nope. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding as you well know. That's why you resort to lies and emotion to try and pass your agenda.

 

[westwall]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.

They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked

Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.

It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works

No, he declared that CRIMINAL control works. Gun control has never reduced crime. Ever.

 

[westwall]

They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.

They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked

Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.

It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works

You are a slow one aren't you.

Arresting them for just having a gun is gun control. No gun control and no arrest till they committ a crime with a gun. You have shown a form of gun control works. Bravo.

Wrong. That's called criminal control. You are controlling the actions of PEOPLE. Gun control denies honest people the use and possession of inanimate objects. As usual you don't have, or understand logic. Go figure you are both progressive 'tards.

 

[TheOldSchool]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.

That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil

Nope. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding as you well know. That's why you resort to lies and emotion to try and pass your agenda.

Gun control only works on law abiding citizens? Then I guess the police owe these 2 felons an apology.

 

[TheOldSchool]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.

They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked

Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.

It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works

No, he declared that CRIMINAL control works. Gun control has never reduced crime. Ever.

Criminals cannot own guns? Sounds like a 2nd amendment issue. AKA gun control.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Yes....two felons were caught not only in possession of a gun they are not allowed to own or carry...they were caught trying to sell it.....

they did not need to license gun owners, the police used an informant...just like all other arrests they do....


the felons stole the guns....did not pass background checks, did not get a license, did not get any other legal paperwork for these guns....

Not one gun law pushed by anti gun activists was needed to catch and arrest these two felons and not one of their gun laws stopped these felons from getting guns they could not legally have in the first place.....

Felons indicted for selling .50-cals to undercover agents

According to court documents, on Nov. 20, an informant told a federal agent that he knew two men, Rangel and Boone, who were trying to sell a .50-caliber sniper rifle for $3,500, so the agent had the informant arrange a meeting with the men.

Later that evening, federal agents staked out the home as the informant met the pair to see the rifle. During the meeting, the informant texted the agent a picture of himself posing with the rifle. However, the informant did not buy the rifle.

A few hours later, about half past midnight, the Modesto Police Department stopped Rangel in his car. When asked if he had weapons in his car, Rangel said, “Officer, you know the question you asked me about the weapons, I have this thing, it’s a metal piece under my seat. I don’t know if it’s a weapon.”

Officers then searched the car and found the bolt to a .50-caliber rifle and an EO Tech red-dot scope. Rangel told officers that he found the items while “dumpster diving.” The police released him with a warning but took the items.

On Nov. 25, an undercover agent, officer and the informant arranged a meeting with Boone to buy a rifle. After parking his car, Boone brought a rifle case inside the garage where the men were standing.

As the group made small talk, the informant opened the case, revealing a Desert Tactical .50-caliber rifle. The agent picked up the gun, but Boone stopped him. “Can you not do that?” he asked.

The agent told Boone that he wanted to see the rifle before he bought it, put it back in its case, and asked how much.

“The agreement was for four,” Boone said, referring to $4,000.

As the agent paid, the officer asked about ammo and other rifles, and Boone told them he had 2,000 rounds at another location and another rifle that was bigger and can strap to a tank.

Less than a month later, on Dec. 16, the undercover agent, officer and an informant met with Rangel to buy the other .50-cal rifle.

After they paid him $15,000 for the weapon, a Karma Metal Products .50 caliber rifle, which looks like a Browning .50-cal machine gun, the agent asked Rangel how quick he could come up with more firearms. Rangel told him that he knew a guy who could get some AR rifles, and another guy who could get some claymore mines and night vision goggles.

Roughly 10 minutes after the buy, Modesto police pulled over Rangel’s car and arrested him. They asked him about the $15,000 and he told them he won it playing Yahtzee. However, he eventually admitted to the sale and stealing the rifles in November from a man he used to know. He said he tried to re-establish contact with the man — they had lost touch because of a dispute over a woman — and when he did, he noticed the two rifles and stole them.

i thought the 2nd amendment guaranteed that great americans can have and sell guns. total infringement. call the nra

 

[westwall]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.

That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil

Nope. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding as you well know. That's why you resort to lies and emotion to try and pass your agenda.

Gun control only works on law abiding citizens? Then I guess the police owe these 2 felons an apology.

No, gun control regulates inanimate objects. Thus a honest person will follow the law. So yes, the only people affected are honest people. But gun control doesn't "work", it merely denies honest people the use of arms. The criminals don't give a fuck for your piss ant laws so gun control laws don't affect them in the slightest.

 

[westwall]

They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.

They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked

Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.

It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works

No, he declared that CRIMINAL control works. Gun control has never reduced crime. Ever.

Criminals cannot own guns? Sounds like a 2nd amendment issue. AKA gun control.

Nope. PEOPLE control. They violated a law and they have lost the Right to own firearms. Gun is sitting on a bench. Honest law abiding person can pick it up and take it away. Felon can not. Both are PEOPLE, there is one gun and it is not controlled. Only the person is.

 

[L.K.Eder]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.

That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil

Nope. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding as you well know. That's why you resort to lies and emotion to try and pass your agenda.

Gun control only works on law abiding citizens? Then I guess the police owe these 2 felons an apology.

No, gun control regulates inanimate objects. Thus a honest person will follow the law. So yes, the only people affected are honest people. But gun control doesn't "work", it merely denies honest people the use of arms. The criminals don't give a fuck for your piss ant laws so gun control laws don't affect them in the slightest.

how the fuck do you regulate inanimate objects, they are fucking inanimate, and don't give a fuck. fuck.

 

[TheOldSchool]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.

That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil

Nope. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding as you well know. That's why you resort to lies and emotion to try and pass your agenda.

Gun control only works on law abiding citizens? Then I guess the police owe these 2 felons an apology.

No, gun control regulates inanimate objects. Thus a honest person will follow the law. So yes, the only people affected are honest people. But gun control doesn't "work", it merely denies honest people the use of arms. The criminals don't give a fuck for your piss ant laws so gun control laws don't affect them in the slightest.

Criminals were denied the use of a sniper rifle here because we created laws about felons owning guns. But maybe we're just imagining it, and this never happened...

 

[2aguy]

They did not go through background checks...they would not go through a universal background check....they got past your gun control laws.

they would not register these guns......

By Supreme Court decision Haynes v. United States....they do not have to register these stolen guns....did you know that?


Only a law abiding gun owner would have to register those guns....the crimes do not have to.

so...each of your gun control laws failed or would fail...and this is shown in just this one story.

They were arrested for illegal possession of a firearm, and illegally attempting to sell a firearm - 2 gun control measures that worked

Are you just dense.........? Wee have told you over and over again that we already have laws on the books....felons cannot own guns...when they are caught with them they can be arrested........no need to license gun owners, no need to register guns to arrest them......

so try again....we told you that our gun control targets criminals....your gun control targets law abiding gun owners.

It's amusing to me that you just admitted gun control works

You are a slow one aren't you.

Arresting them for just having a gun is gun control. No gun control and no arrest till they committ a crime with a gun. You have shown a form of gun control works. Bravo.

You guys are twits...and morons...you have had your gun control beliefs shown to be stupid and so you become even more stupid than you normally are....

 

[2aguy]

Being arrested for not having a gun license in a place that requires a gun license = gun control

and that is one of the stupid gun control laws we talk about. these guys can't have a gun license.....


if a normal person carries a gun there is no crime....no license is therefore needed.....

But by making a gun license necessary, you add a level of paperwork which if not obeyed....for simply filling out papers...you can destroy the life of a normalerson who owns a gun. They will have committed no crime with the gun, they won't have shot anyone...they will have made a clerical error...and you would make them into felons....


that is stupid gun law......you target non criminals........because the criminals cannot get a license....but normal gun owners will be required to get one......

 

[2aguy]

If we got rid of gun control, it would have been perfectly legal for them to own, carry, and sell it

No...try again...they are felons who cannot own guns...so you are wrong.

That's a form of gun control, and gun control is evil

Nope. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding as you well know. That's why you resort to lies and emotion to try and pass your agenda.

Gun control only works on law abiding citizens? Then I guess the police owe these 2 felons an apology.

None of your gun control laws kept them from getting guns......actually targeting criminals did the trick.........

 

[OnePercenter]

Yes....two felons were caught not only in possession of a gun they are not allowed to own or carry...they were caught trying to sell it.....

they did not need to license gun owners, the police used an informant...just like all other arrests they do....


the felons stole the guns....did not pass background checks, did not get a license, did not get any other legal paperwork for these guns....

Not one gun law pushed by anti gun activists was needed to catch and arrest these two felons and not one of their gun laws stopped these felons from getting guns they could not legally have in the first place.....

Felons indicted for selling .50-cals to undercover agents

According to court documents, on Nov. 20, an informant told a federal agent that he knew two men, Rangel and Boone, who were trying to sell a .50-caliber sniper rifle for $3,500, so the agent had the informant arrange a meeting with the men.

Later that evening, federal agents staked out the home as the informant met the pair to see the rifle. During the meeting, the informant texted the agent a picture of himself posing with the rifle. However, the informant did not buy the rifle.

A few hours later, about half past midnight, the Modesto Police Department stopped Rangel in his car. When asked if he had weapons in his car, Rangel said, “Officer, you know the question you asked me about the weapons, I have this thing, it’s a metal piece under my seat. I don’t know if it’s a weapon.”

Officers then searched the car and found the bolt to a .50-caliber rifle and an EO Tech red-dot scope. Rangel told officers that he found the items while “dumpster diving.” The police released him with a warning but took the items.

On Nov. 25, an undercover agent, officer and the informant arranged a meeting with Boone to buy a rifle. After parking his car, Boone brought a rifle case inside the garage where the men were standing.

As the group made small talk, the informant opened the case, revealing a Desert Tactical .50-caliber rifle. The agent picked up the gun, but Boone stopped him. “Can you not do that?” he asked.

The agent told Boone that he wanted to see the rifle before he bought it, put it back in its case, and asked how much.

“The agreement was for four,” Boone said, referring to $4,000.

As the agent paid, the officer asked about ammo and other rifles, and Boone told them he had 2,000 rounds at another location and another rifle that was bigger and can strap to a tank.

Less than a month later, on Dec. 16, the undercover agent, officer and an informant met with Rangel to buy the other .50-cal rifle.

After they paid him $15,000 for the weapon, a Karma Metal Products .50 caliber rifle, which looks like a Browning .50-cal machine gun, the agent asked Rangel how quick he could come up with more firearms. Rangel told him that he knew a guy who could get some AR rifles, and another guy who could get some claymore mines and night vision goggles.

Roughly 10 minutes after the buy, Modesto police pulled over Rangel’s car and arrested him. They asked him about the $15,000 and he told them he won it playing Yahtzee. However, he eventually admitted to the sale and stealing the rifles in November from a man he used to know. He said he tried to re-establish contact with the man — they had lost touch because of a dispute over a woman — and when he did, he noticed the two rifles and stole them.

An irresponsible gun owner made his/her gun readily available to be stolen?

 

[2aguy]

yes..the truth, facts and reality have driven our normally stupid, gun control nuts over the edge......

 

[2aguy]

Yes....two felons were caught not only in possession of a gun they are not allowed to own or carry...they were caught trying to sell it.....

they did not need to license gun owners, the police used an informant...just like all other arrests they do....


the felons stole the guns....did not pass background checks, did not get a license, did not get any other legal paperwork for these guns....

Not one gun law pushed by anti gun activists was needed to catch and arrest these two felons and not one of their gun laws stopped these felons from getting guns they could not legally have in the first place.....

Felons indicted for selling .50-cals to undercover agents

According to court documents, on Nov. 20, an informant told a federal agent that he knew two men, Rangel and Boone, who were trying to sell a .50-caliber sniper rifle for $3,500, so the agent had the informant arrange a meeting with the men.

Later that evening, federal agents staked out the home as the informant met the pair to see the rifle. During the meeting, the informant texted the agent a picture of himself posing with the rifle. However, the informant did not buy the rifle.

A few hours later, about half past midnight, the Modesto Police Department stopped Rangel in his car. When asked if he had weapons in his car, Rangel said, “Officer, you know the question you asked me about the weapons, I have this thing, it’s a metal piece under my seat. I don’t know if it’s a weapon.”

Officers then searched the car and found the bolt to a .50-caliber rifle and an EO Tech red-dot scope. Rangel told officers that he found the items while “dumpster diving.” The police released him with a warning but took the items.

On Nov. 25, an undercover agent, officer and the informant arranged a meeting with Boone to buy a rifle. After parking his car, Boone brought a rifle case inside the garage where the men were standing.

As the group made small talk, the informant opened the case, revealing a Desert Tactical .50-caliber rifle. The agent picked up the gun, but Boone stopped him. “Can you not do that?” he asked.

The agent told Boone that he wanted to see the rifle before he bought it, put it back in its case, and asked how much.

“The agreement was for four,” Boone said, referring to $4,000.

As the agent paid, the officer asked about ammo and other rifles, and Boone told them he had 2,000 rounds at another location and another rifle that was bigger and can strap to a tank.

Less than a month later, on Dec. 16, the undercover agent, officer and an informant met with Rangel to buy the other .50-cal rifle.

After they paid him $15,000 for the weapon, a Karma Metal Products .50 caliber rifle, which looks like a Browning .50-cal machine gun, the agent asked Rangel how quick he could come up with more firearms. Rangel told him that he knew a guy who could get some AR rifles, and another guy who could get some claymore mines and night vision goggles.

Roughly 10 minutes after the buy, Modesto police pulled over Rangel’s car and arrested him. They asked him about the $15,000 and he told them he won it playing Yahtzee. However, he eventually admitted to the sale and stealing the rifles in November from a man he used to know. He said he tried to re-establish contact with the man — they had lost touch because of a dispute over a woman — and when he did, he noticed the two rifles and stole them.

An irresponsible gun owner made his/her gun readily available to be stolen?

No. A citizen had his property taken illegally. he is a victim, not a criminal.

So...according to your logic a girl who is raped should be charged with prostitution......since she didn't stop the rape?

 

[OnePercenter]

No. A citizen had his property taken illegally. he is a victim, not a criminal.

So...according to your logic a girl who is raped should be charged with prostitution......since she didn't stop the rape?

A citizen didn't secure his gun. I have mine secured and easily available, why not every gun owner?

 

[2aguy]

No. A citizen had his property taken illegally. he is a victim, not a criminal.

So...according to your logic a girl who is raped should be charged with prostitution......since she didn't stop the rape?

A citizen didn't secure his gun. I have mine secured and easily available, why not every gun owner?

Yes...and when a girl is gang raped by 5 men in the middle of a New York park...she has not secured her virtue.....so therefore she must have wanted the sex...right? Or should she be arrested for prostitution....since she didn't stop the rape?

 

[2aguy]

No. A citizen had his property taken illegally. he is a victim, not a criminal.

So...according to your logic a girl who is raped should be charged with prostitution......since she didn't stop the rape?

A citizen didn't secure his gun. I have mine secured and easily available, why not every gun owner?

I agree...you should secure your guns.....but having them stolen does not mean they weren't secured. and I will not consent to home searches to check on how guns are secured. If the are in your home, they are as secure as they need to be....anyone who takes them without your permission should be arrested.....

See how that works...someone breaks into your home and takes your gun...they get arrested and put in prison...gun control that actually targets law breakers.