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Feds to execute woman who killed victim, cut baby from womb
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Disir
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For those who didn’t read the article....
Montgomery used a rope to strangle Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant, but Stinnett was conscious and trying to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb.
She met her online, claimed to be pregnant and they became friends discussing their pregnancies through email. Montgomery was not only not pregnant but had a tubal ligation much earlier. Montgomery was using another name and showed up at her house and carved the baby out of her womb. Montgomery's child hood trauma was that she was (reportedly) repeatedly raped by her step-father.
It's not one of those cases that I can passionately defend.
TheProgressivePatriot
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Have you heard about life without the possibility of parole??One problem is that she is mentally illWhat's the problem?
Lisa Montgomery: US Sets Date for First Federal Execution of a Woman in 7 Decades
Montgomery will be the ninth person to be put to death since July, when the Justice Department resumed executions after a gap of almost two decadeswww.ibtimes.sg
Even now, Montgomery's attorney, Kelley Henry, argues that she deserves to live because she is mentally ill and suffered childhood abuse. But that is not going to won't help much as the date of her execution has been set. "Lisa Montgomery has long accepted full responsibility for her crime, and she will never leave prison," Henry said. "But her severe mental illness and the devastating impacts of her childhood trauma make executing her a profound injustice."
Another problem is that it is a barbaric practice that serves no purpose except to satisfy a lust for revenge and to allow officials to show that they are tough on crime.
If she is mentally ill that is a concern. However, if that is not proven then she deserves death. It is not barbaric. What it does is insure that a homicidal person won't be able to kill again. There will be plenty of women who will be able to sleep easier when she is killed, because they will know that at least one person who likes to kill, won't be able to do so any longer.
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Do they need someone to push down the plunger cause I can find a way to be free on that day.Lisa Montgomery is scheduled to be executed by lethal injection on Dec. 8 at the Federal Correctional Complex in Terre Haute, Indiana. She would be the ninth federal inmate to put to death since the Justice Department resumed executions in July after a nearly 20-year hiatus.
Feds to execute woman who killed victim, cut baby from womb
A woman convicted of fatally strangling a pregnant woman, cutting her body open and kidnapping her baby is scheduled to be the first female inmate put to death by the U.S. government in more than s…fox8.com
They are just pushing them through.
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Why?What's the problem?
Because she wantonly deprived a woman of her life, and stole the child who will never know her mother. I am generally not in favor of the death penalty either, but in certain cases, such as this one, it is warranted.
It's not until her appeals hearing that it they discuss her mental illness.
What's wrong with putting crazy people to death? If they're crazy enough to murder someone, they deserve the death penalty.
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One problem is that she is mentally illWhat's the problem?
Lisa Montgomery: US Sets Date for First Federal Execution of a Woman in 7 Decades
Montgomery will be the ninth person to be put to death since July, when the Justice Department resumed executions after a gap of almost two decades
Even now, Montgomery's attorney, Kelley Henry, argues that she deserves to live because she is mentally ill and suffered childhood abuse. But that is not going to won't help much as the date of her execution has been set. "Lisa Montgomery has long accepted full responsibility for her crime, and she will never leave prison," Henry said. "But her severe mental illness and the devastating impacts of her childhood trauma make executing her a profound injustice."
Another problem is that it is a barbaric practice that serves no purpose except to satisfy a lust for revenge and to allow officials to show that they are tough on crime.
Boo fucking hoo.
TheProgressivePatriot
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Probobly not. Criminals either don't think that they will get caught, or have little regard for their own lives and may even be tacitly suicidal.I wish that capital punishment were used for robbers, sucker punchers, looters, rapists, and murderers.
Betcha the violent crime rate would go down real fast!
On the other hand, it might be a deterrent for some if we had public quarterings or beheadings with limited appeals. But then we we be emulating China, N. Korea and Saudi Arabia. Are you willing to go that far?
Perhaps a better approach would be to address the underlying issues that breed crime by better funding for things like education, drug treatment, and mental health. Maybe solving the problems of income and wealth disparity, de-facto segregation and racism might help. Oh, but that sounds like socialism. Never mind. Just fucking kill them
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There is no question of guilt.Why?What's the problem?
she did it and deserves to be executed
Mac-7
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No, it sounds like typical liberal nonsenseOh, but that sounds like socialism.
this woman committed a ghastly murder and you have not explained why she deserves to live
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I am not highly a sanctity of human life guy, and by exchanging emails planning the deed, driving in from out of state, on her plan to kill the mother and cut out the baby with a kitchen knife, she pretty well used up any life credits she had. Best outcome is a swift carrying out of sentence.There is no question of guilt.Why?What's the problem?
she did it and deserves to be executed
Probobly not. Criminals either don't think that they will get caught, or have little regard for their own lives and may even be tacitly suicidal.I wish that capital punishment were used for robbers, sucker punchers, looters, rapists, and murderers.
Betcha the violent crime rate would go down real fast!
On the other hand, it might be a deterrent for some if we had public quarterings or beheadings with limited appeals. But then we we be emulating China, N. Korea and Saudi Arabia. Are you willing to go that far?
Perhaps a better approach would be to address the underlying issues that breed crime by better funding for things like education, drug treatment, and mental health. Maybe solving the problems of income and wealth disparity, de-facto segregation and racism might help. Oh, but that sounds like socialism. Never mind. Just fucking kill them
There is NO "racism."
In 2020 America and especially next year under the wonderful guy Joseph Biden, Americans are doing everything possible to help certain folks: no punishment for violent crimes, making sure that TV & movies have diversity, no admissions tests for the university, censoring any negative remarks on the Internet, reparations will soon roll out, changing the names of any entity that hurts certain folks' feelings, etc.
Dang! One CEO even said that other Americans should shine the shoes of certain folks.
"Racism"? I don't think so, unless one is referring to reverse racism!
TheProgressivePatriot
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It is not a matter of whether or not she deserves to live. The issue is. Are we any better than her if we kill her?No, it sounds like typical liberal nonsenseOh, but that sounds like socialism.
this woman committed a ghastly murder and you have not explained why she deserves to live
TheProgressivePatriot
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Probobly not. Criminals either don't think that they will get caught, or have little regard for their own lives and may even be tacitly suicidal.I wish that capital punishment were used for robbers, sucker punchers, looters, rapists, and murderers.
Betcha the violent crime rate would go down real fast!
On the other hand, it might be a deterrent for some if we had public quarterings or beheadings with limited appeals. But then we we be emulating China, N. Korea and Saudi Arabia. Are you willing to go that far?
Perhaps a better approach would be to address the underlying issues that breed crime by better funding for things like education, drug treatment, and mental health. Maybe solving the problems of income and wealth disparity, de-facto segregation and racism might help. Oh, but that sounds like socialism. Never mind. Just fucking kill them
There is NO "racism."
In 2020 America and especially next year under the wonderful guy Joseph Biden, Americans are doing everything possible to help certain folks: no punishment for violent crimes, making sure that TV & movies have diversity, no admissions tests for the university, censoring any negative remarks on the Internet, reparations will soon roll out, changing the names of any entity that hurts certain folks' feelings, etc.
Dang! One CEO even said that other Americans should shine the shoes of certain folks.
"Racism"? I don't think so, unless one is referring to reverse racism!
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Of course we are better.Are we any better than her if we kill her?
she took an innocent life
we are putting a murder to death
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Who does? She don't make any sense.Frankly, I don't know what you're arguing.Why what?Why?What's the problem?
Exactly.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the death penalty. I'm not arguing that here. Is that a problem?
That's rich coming from you.
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Perhaps you just aren't capable of stating whatever it is you are talking about.Who does? She don't make any sense.Frankly, I don't know what you're arguing.Why what?Why?What's the problem?
Exactly.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the death penalty. I'm not arguing that here. Is that a problem?
That's rich coming from you.
Disir
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Perhaps you just aren't capable of stating whatever it is you are talking about.Who does? She don't make any sense.Frankly, I don't know what you're arguing.Why what?Why?What's the problem?
Exactly.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the death penalty. I'm not arguing that here. Is that a problem?
That's rich coming from you.
I did. I said that I wasn't going to argue it. The reason that I am not arguing it is that it's a pretty hideous case.
I said that I am generally against the death penalty and it's because of clowns like Jon Burge. I also mentioned in a response that she went much further than just going in and strangling this woman. It's pretty calculated.
It's not something that I am going to passionately argue she should not be executed. I can't do that.
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