So....one of my buds, having a deep an abiding love of President Franklin Roosevelt...no matter what!.....
...now claims the following for his idol:
" ...hundreds of thousands of American soldiers remained alive,..."
Any who believe that FDR's decisions saved American soldiers would do well to read the following:
The bulk of our international problems stem directly from the intentions, strategy, actions, of President Franklin Roosevelt.
Had he not supported and inflated the USSR, there would not have been a Red China.
Nor a Korean War.
But the issue has revolved around whether the Left's icon was misguided, or intended the deleterious political philosophy.
1. In August of 1943, Roosevelt and Churchill met in Quebec. Stalin was not present. "Churchill advocated that the allies open the second front in Europe through the Balkans as Churchill described it, the soft underbelly of Europe. This would prevent a Soviet rush into that area, avoiding the permanent establish of the authority of the Soviet Union in this region, potentially saving much of Central Europe from Soviet tyranny. General Wedemeyer conveys Roosevelts view on this notion:
The President then added the curious statement that he did not understand the British viewpoint in this connection, for he, Roosevelt, did not believe that the Soviets wanted to take over the Balkan states but wished only to establish kinship with other Slavic peoples.
Roosevelt's BFF ?Uncle Joe? ?
a. How could he have believed this? In 1937-1938, at the height of his pal, 'Uncle Joe' Stalin's terror, 40,000 were killed per month at Stalin's behest. Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"
b. In November-December, the two leaders met with Stalin....who refused the Churchill plan....and demanded the second front through the West.
2. General Mark Clark was, at the time, in command of Allied Armies in Italy. He strongly supported the Prime Ministers viewpoint, as indicated in his book written after the war:
A campaign that might have changed the whole history of relations between the Western world and Soviet Russia was permitted to fade away .Not alone in my opinion, but in the opinion of a number of experts who were close to the problem, the weakening of the campaign in Italy in order to invade southern France and instead of pushing on in the Balkans was one of the outstanding political mistakes of the war. Had we been there before the Red Army, not only would the collapse of Germany have come sooner, but the influence of Soviet Russia would have been drastically reduced.
3. Upon his return to the U. S. from Cairo and Tehran, Roosevelt delivered a radio address. Regarding Stalin, Roosevelt said:
To use an American and somewhat ungrammatical colloquialism, I may say that I got along fine with Marshall Stalin I believe we are going to get along very well with him and the Russian people very well indeed .
Roosevelt's BFF ?Uncle Joe? ?
4. "What did he know, and when did he know it."
a. The Great Purge revelations from Soviet archives, historians now estimate that nearly 700,000 people (353,074 in 1937 and 328,612 in 1938) were executed in the course of the terror, with the great mass of victims merely "ordinary" Soviet citizens: workers, peasants, homemakers, teachers, priests, musicians, soldiers, pensioners, ballerinas, beggars.
b. The Ukrainian Famine 19321933...estimated at between 5 and 10 million people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
c. Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule.
The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33
"I believe we are going to get along very well with him .... very well indeed ."
If the collapse of Germany have come sooner....think that would have saved American lives?
And the Korean War....36,940 Americans killed, 91,134 wounded, and 8,176 still missing.
I guess BFF Uncle Joe was simply more important....
...now claims the following for his idol:
" ...hundreds of thousands of American soldiers remained alive,..."
Any who believe that FDR's decisions saved American soldiers would do well to read the following:
The bulk of our international problems stem directly from the intentions, strategy, actions, of President Franklin Roosevelt.
Had he not supported and inflated the USSR, there would not have been a Red China.
Nor a Korean War.
But the issue has revolved around whether the Left's icon was misguided, or intended the deleterious political philosophy.
1. In August of 1943, Roosevelt and Churchill met in Quebec. Stalin was not present. "Churchill advocated that the allies open the second front in Europe through the Balkans as Churchill described it, the soft underbelly of Europe. This would prevent a Soviet rush into that area, avoiding the permanent establish of the authority of the Soviet Union in this region, potentially saving much of Central Europe from Soviet tyranny. General Wedemeyer conveys Roosevelts view on this notion:
The President then added the curious statement that he did not understand the British viewpoint in this connection, for he, Roosevelt, did not believe that the Soviets wanted to take over the Balkan states but wished only to establish kinship with other Slavic peoples.
Roosevelt's BFF ?Uncle Joe? ?
a. How could he have believed this? In 1937-1938, at the height of his pal, 'Uncle Joe' Stalin's terror, 40,000 were killed per month at Stalin's behest. Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"
b. In November-December, the two leaders met with Stalin....who refused the Churchill plan....and demanded the second front through the West.
2. General Mark Clark was, at the time, in command of Allied Armies in Italy. He strongly supported the Prime Ministers viewpoint, as indicated in his book written after the war:
A campaign that might have changed the whole history of relations between the Western world and Soviet Russia was permitted to fade away .Not alone in my opinion, but in the opinion of a number of experts who were close to the problem, the weakening of the campaign in Italy in order to invade southern France and instead of pushing on in the Balkans was one of the outstanding political mistakes of the war. Had we been there before the Red Army, not only would the collapse of Germany have come sooner, but the influence of Soviet Russia would have been drastically reduced.
3. Upon his return to the U. S. from Cairo and Tehran, Roosevelt delivered a radio address. Regarding Stalin, Roosevelt said:
To use an American and somewhat ungrammatical colloquialism, I may say that I got along fine with Marshall Stalin I believe we are going to get along very well with him and the Russian people very well indeed .
Roosevelt's BFF ?Uncle Joe? ?
4. "What did he know, and when did he know it."
a. The Great Purge revelations from Soviet archives, historians now estimate that nearly 700,000 people (353,074 in 1937 and 328,612 in 1938) were executed in the course of the terror, with the great mass of victims merely "ordinary" Soviet citizens: workers, peasants, homemakers, teachers, priests, musicians, soldiers, pensioners, ballerinas, beggars.
b. The Ukrainian Famine 19321933...estimated at between 5 and 10 million people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
c. Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule.
The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33
"I believe we are going to get along very well with him .... very well indeed ."
If the collapse of Germany have come sooner....think that would have saved American lives?
And the Korean War....36,940 Americans killed, 91,134 wounded, and 8,176 still missing.
I guess BFF Uncle Joe was simply more important....