FDR- the Icon Hero of the Left

[rightwinger]

Ummm.....yea

Social Security is good
We have FDR to thank

As you know, we'd have been fine if the retirement age had been tied to our longevity expectation.

Agree, it isn’t a simple change to raise Social Security to 70 for new people in the system.
No reason to panic

Done in stages for people retiring in 20 or so years so they have time to prepare.

That is the way it was done last time
If you are under 30 your age goes to 70
If you are 30-40 your age goes to 69
If you are 40-50 it goes to 68
Everyone else stays the same

 

[rightwinger]

Hell, why not just detain people at the age of 69 and then hustle them all into gas chambers at 70. No muss no fuss, huh? Minimal one time cost and an infinite future source of dog food. A nice neat solution for all your projected red ink. Hell, if projected deficits are to be discouraged and avoided like the plague, what’s up with the Trump budget and fiscal plan? All that deficit spending for the purpose of eventually padding the wallets of the top 1%. What a sad sorry farce, work people to death for peanuts then begrudge them their meager survival at the end of life. Who wants to live, no exist, in a society like that? You advocate for radical change at the bottom to protect business as usual at the top. Let’s turn that proposal on it’s head and advocate radical change at the top to promote a life worth living at the bottom.

Cute, childish rant.

In your world, where does personal responsibility come into play? Or does it?

You didn't answer the basic question. Where does the money come from?

Another falsely attributed quote by conservatives

Quote of the Day: “Any man who thinks he is going to be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him should take a close look at the American Indian.”

 

[Weatherman2020]

“On February 19, 1942 — seventy-four years ago today — Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066. With the stroke of his pen, the man who had earlier snubbed Jesse Owens after the Berlin Olympics used his executive powers to order the imprisonment of over 100,000 persons of Japanese ancestry (as well as thousands of German and Italian ancestry) for the duration of World War II.”

Okay, so?

Hey, guy, funny thing happened in every country the Axis invaded.

They found people willing to collaborate with them.

And after Pearl Harbor, there was a pretty valid fear that the Japanese Imperial Navy might show up off the west coast and start shelling things.

The very fact we are having this conversation in English instead of Nihango or Deutsch should prove he was right.

So let's round up all Muslims.
White Germans were never rounded up in WW2.

Typical leftist, supports sending people to Concentration Camps because of skin color.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hell, why not just detain people at the age of 69 and then hustle them all into gas chambers at 70. No muss no fuss, huh? Minimal one time cost and an infinite future source of dog food. A nice neat solution for all your projected red ink. Hell, if projected deficits are to be discouraged and avoided like the plague, what’s up with the Trump budget and fiscal plan? All that deficit spending for the purpose of eventually padding the wallets of the top 1%. What a sad sorry farce, work people to death for peanuts then begrudge them their meager survival at the end of life. Who wants to live, no exist, in a society like that? You advocate for radical change at the bottom to protect business as usual at the top. Let’s turn that proposal on it’s head and advocate radical change at the top to promote a life worth living at the bottom.

Cute, childish rant.

In your world, where does personal responsibility come into play? Or does it?

You didn't answer the basic question. Where does the money come from?

The Defense (really war) budget.

Cut it by at least 75%, and bingo...Social Security is fixed.

Or eliminate paying illegals.

 

[Camp]

“On February 19, 1942 — seventy-four years ago today — Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066. With the stroke of his pen, the man who had earlier snubbed Jesse Owens after the Berlin Olympics used his executive powers to order the imprisonment of over 100,000 persons of Japanese ancestry (as well as thousands of German and Italian ancestry) for the duration of World War II.”

Okay, so?

Hey, guy, funny thing happened in every country the Axis invaded.

They found people willing to collaborate with them.

And after Pearl Harbor, there was a pretty valid fear that the Japanese Imperial Navy might show up off the west coast and start shelling things.

The very fact we are having this conversation in English instead of Nihango or Deutsch should prove he was right.

So let's round up all Muslims.
White Germans were never rounded up in WW2.

Typical leftist, supports sending people to Concentration Camps because of skin color.

Over 11, 500 Germans were rounded up and detained in WWII. Over 1.2 million persons born in Germany were legal immigrants when the war began. Another six million were the first generation. 17% of the American population had German ancestry.

 

[Weatherman2020]

“On February 19, 1942 — seventy-four years ago today — Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066. With the stroke of his pen, the man who had earlier snubbed Jesse Owens after the Berlin Olympics used his executive powers to order the imprisonment of over 100,000 persons of Japanese ancestry (as well as thousands of German and Italian ancestry) for the duration of World War II.”

Okay, so?

Hey, guy, funny thing happened in every country the Axis invaded.

They found people willing to collaborate with them.

And after Pearl Harbor, there was a pretty valid fear that the Japanese Imperial Navy might show up off the west coast and start shelling things.

The very fact we are having this conversation in English instead of Nihango or Deutsch should prove he was right.

So let's round up all Muslims.
White Germans were never rounded up in WW2.

Typical leftist, supports sending people to Concentration Camps because of skin color.

Over 11, 500 Germans were rounded up and detained in WWII. Over 1.2 million persons born in Germany were legal immigrants when the war began. Another six million were the first generation. 17% of the American population had German ancestry.

What’s that have to do with FDR rounding up every American with slanted eyes and tossing them in Concentration Camps?

 

[rightwinger]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

 

[Unkotare]

“On February 19, 1942 — seventy-four years ago today — Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066. With the stroke of his pen, the man who had earlier snubbed Jesse Owens after the Berlin Olympics used his executive powers to order the imprisonment of over 100,000 persons of Japanese ancestry (as well as thousands of German and Italian ancestry) for the duration of World War II.”

Okay, so?

Hey, guy, funny thing happened in every country the Axis invaded.

They found people willing to collaborate with them.

And after Pearl Harbor, there was a pretty valid fear that the Japanese Imperial Navy might show up off the west coast and start shelling things.

The very fact we are having this conversation in English instead of Nihango or Deutsch should prove he was right.

....

Typical leftist, supports sending people to Concentration Camps because of skin color.

Exactly.

 

[Weatherman2020]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

Economists credit FDR for dragging out the depression much longer than it should have lasted.

In addition to rounding up innocent Americans to toss into concentration camps and turning away Jews fleeing Hitler.

 

[rightwinger]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

Economists credit FDR for dragging out the depression much longer than it should have lasted.

In addition to rounding up innocent Americans to toss into concentration camps and turning away Jews fleeing Hitler.

That is an interesting point

Economists were only concerned with money
FDR had a primary focus of reducing the suffering of the people

 

[Camp]

“On February 19, 1942 — seventy-four years ago today — Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066. With the stroke of his pen, the man who had earlier snubbed Jesse Owens after the Berlin Olympics used his executive powers to order the imprisonment of over 100,000 persons of Japanese ancestry (as well as thousands of German and Italian ancestry) for the duration of World War II.”

Okay, so?

Hey, guy, funny thing happened in every country the Axis invaded.

They found people willing to collaborate with them.

And after Pearl Harbor, there was a pretty valid fear that the Japanese Imperial Navy might show up off the west coast and start shelling things.

The very fact we are having this conversation in English instead of Nihango or Deutsch should prove he was right.

So let's round up all Muslims.
White Germans were never rounded up in WW2.

Typical leftist, supports sending people to Concentration Camps because of skin color.

Over 11, 500 Germans were rounded up and detained in WWII. Over 1.2 million persons born in Germany were legal immigrants when the war began. Another six million were the first generation. 17% of the American population had German ancestry.

What’s that have to do with FDR rounding up every American with slanted eyes and tossing them in Concentration Camps?

You claimed Germans were never rounded up in WW2. Your post. I quoted it because it was misinformation. And again, your response also is promoting misinformation. All Japanese were not rounded up. Only Japanese on the west coast were rounded up. Only the Japanese deemed by Lieutenant General DeWitt, the military commander in charge of the region to be a threat that included California, Oregon, and Washington were vacated from the specific region. Non-Japanese with as you refer to as having "slanted eyes" were not detained. Detainment was not racially motivated. Chinese south-east Asians, Koreans, etc. were not rounded up.

 

[rightwinger]

FDR saved our country, then he saved the world

 

[LA RAM FAN]

"AN INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE OF INFLUENTIAL INDIVIDUALS"

"The Fair Play Committee was established in the fall of 1941, three months before the attack on Pearl Harbor. In May of that year, David Prescott Barrows, chairman of the University of California's Political Science Department and former university president, became concerned about rising anti-Japanese sentiment in California. He discussed the matter with Galen Fisher, a faculty member at the Pacific School of Religion and a political science research associate at the university. A liberal Protestant, Fisher had served twenty-one years in Japan as secretary of the International Committee of the YMCA.

Subsequently, he had carried out a survey of race relations on the Pacific Coast for the Rockefeller Institute of Social and Religious Research. Although Fisher was in his late sixties in 1941, he agreed to take on the task of organizing what he and Barrows envisioned as "an independent committee of influential individuals" to advocate for the protection of the civil rights and liberties of Californians of Japanese descent. In September 1941, he announced the establishment of the Northern California Committee on Fair Play for Citizens and Aliens of Japanese Ancestry. (5) "

In 20i6 59% of Japanese-Americans voted Democratic and 21% voted Republican, why is that?

Again you have nothing but logical fallacy. You don't even pretend to defend that scumbag fdr anymore.

FDR has plenty of defenses, the people that were alive at the time, and voted for FDR four times, and the historians in reviewing the period that rated FDR the greatest.. So both people and historians rated him the best. So who else is there? Are the people wrong or the historians?

the american sheep like you,mary ann,and campy shill are so brainwashed you dont want to look at the REAL facts nobody has an answer for in post# 559 of mine,FDR- the Icon Hero of the Left

oh and those egghead historians are always on the governments payroll,they always rank the traiterous ones as the best,they dont rank the ones that did great for america like Calvin Coolige who presidned over a great economy which is called the roaring 20's since under him.America PROSPERED.

and for the last 100th time.FDR abused the offiice of the presidency so he could stay there four terms charlie.LOL

So do you think Trump will abuse the office of the presidency to be elected four times? I don't really want to ask how a candidate abuses the office of the presidency.

Unlike FDR,trump form what we know about him,believes in the constitution and will RESPECT what the forefathers mandated that no president serve more than two terms.. oh and heat to break your heart but you seem dense of the fact that elections are FIXED,whoever the establishment wants in,they make sure they get it. The ONLY reason it did nor work for them this time is trump has MONEY,money is power and he had that power to stop the corrupted election process so that the candidate the people wanted in,got elected.LOL

someone like patriot ron paul or gary johnson had most of americans voted for them,would not have been able to make sure it was a fair election

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hell, why not just detain people at the age of 69 and then hustle them all into gas chambers at 70. No muss no fuss, huh? Minimal one time cost and an infinite future source of dog food. A nice neat solution for all your projected red ink. Hell, if projected deficits are to be discouraged and avoided like the plague, what’s up with the Trump budget and fiscal plan? All that deficit spending for the purpose of eventually padding the wallets of the top 1%. What a sad sorry farce, work people to death for peanuts then begrudge them their meager survival at the end of life. Who wants to live, no exist, in a society like that? You advocate for radical change at the bottom to protect business as usual at the top. Let’s turn that proposal on it’s head and advocate radical change at the top to promote a life worth living at the bottom.

Cute, childish rant.

In your world, where does personal responsibility come into play? Or does it?

You didn't answer the basic question. Where does the money come from?

perfect example of how corrupt our government is with that henry ford quote and the people in high power are white racists which is WHY until now.there was never a minority president.they only put obama in BECAUSE they knew he would sell out his own black people and betray them as he did and so that they could say minoritys CAN get elected now.LOL

 

[LA RAM FAN]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

Economists credit FDR for dragging out the depression much longer than it should have lasted.

In addition to rounding up innocent Americans to toss into concentration camps and turning away Jews fleeing Hitler.

that is because THEY are not paid off by the government as our egghead historians are who dont tell these lillte facts on FDR so that way he can be on our dime is it? LOL

 

[rightwinger]

In 20i6 59% of Japanese-Americans voted Democratic and 21% voted Republican, why is that?

Again you have nothing but logical fallacy. You don't even pretend to defend that scumbag fdr anymore.

FDR has plenty of defenses, the people that were alive at the time, and voted for FDR four times, and the historians in reviewing the period that rated FDR the greatest.. So both people and historians rated him the best. So who else is there? Are the people wrong or the historians?

the american sheep like you,mary ann,and campy shill are so brainwashed you dont want to look at the REAL facts nobody has an answer for in post# 559 of mine,FDR- the Icon Hero of the Left

oh and those egghead historians are always on the governments payroll,they always rank the traiterous ones as the best,they dont rank the ones that did great for america like Calvin Coolige who presidned over a great economy which is called the roaring 20's since under him.America PROSPERED.

and for the last 100th time.FDR abused the offiice of the presidency so he could stay there four terms charlie.LOL

So do you think Trump will abuse the office of the presidency to be elected four times? I don't really want to ask how a candidate abuses the office of the presidency.

Unlike FDR,trump form what we know about him,believes in the constitution and will RESPECT what the forefathers mandated that no president serve more than two terms.. oh and heat to break your heart but you seem dense of the fact that elections are FIXED,whoever the establishment wants in,they make sure they get it. The ONLY reason it did nor work for them this time is trump has MONEY,money is power and he had that power to stop the corrupted election process so that the candidate the people wanted in,got elected.LOL

someone like patriot ron paul or gary johnson had most of americans voted for them,would not have been able to make sure it was a fair election

With all due respect, Trump has no clue what is in the Constitution

I know a Gold Star father who can explain it to you

 

[regent]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

Economists credit FDR for dragging out the depression much longer than it should have lasted.

In addition to rounding up innocent Americans to toss into concentration camps and turning away Jews fleeing Hitler.

That is an interesting point

Economists were only concerned with money
FDR had a primary focus of reducing the suffering of the people

And that is the primary difference between liberalism and conservatism.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

Economists credit FDR for dragging out the depression much longer than it should have lasted.

In addition to rounding up innocent Americans to toss into concentration camps and turning away Jews fleeing Hitler.

That is an interesting point

Economists were only concerned with money
FDR had a primary focus of reducing the suffering of the people

And that is the primary difference between liberalism and conservatism.

I'll never live the one down by you WHY Reagan a DEMOCRAT back then,voted for FDR. this is too complicated for you to understand of course but it is a ONE PARTY SYSTEM disguised as two so the sheep think they have a choice on who gets elected,both AS CORRUPT AS THE OTHER ONE,a one party system of demopublicans and reprocrats,Bush and clinton have been seen doing golf many times over the years and have a relationship that goes back to at least the early 70's.plus the bushs,clintons and obamas were all yaking it up together in a jet that went across the globe a few years ago,Bush and Obozo even HUGGED each other when Obama was sworn in. Trump at least kept it to a handshake with Obama and i am sure he did not want to do that.

that is WHY Ronnie of course had no problem switching to a republican.

 

[regent]

hehhE="LA RAM FAN, post: 19789272, member: 9012"]

FDR brought our nation through the Great Depression, gave us Social Security and public aid programs then saved the world for Democracy

Economists credit FDR for dragging out the depression much longer than it should have lasted.

In addition to rounding up innocent Americans to toss into concentration camps and turning away Jews fleeing Hitler.

that is because THEY are not paid off by the government as our egghead historians are who dont tell these lillte facts on FDR so that way he can be on our dime is it? LOL[/QUOTE]
So those historians that voted for FDR as best president got paid and the historians that rated Harding as one of the worst did not get paid. I thought the argument that historians are communists, had more thought behind it.

 

[Unkotare]

...Detainment was not racially motivated. ....

Chinese Americans labeling themselves to avoid being confused with the hated Japanese Americans, 1941