FDR Prolonged Depression 7 Years: UCLA

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FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years

UCLA economists calculate FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years.

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

The policies were contained in the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA), which exempted industries from antitrust prosecution if they agreed to enter into collective bargaining agreements that significantly raised wages. Because protection from antitrust prosecution all but ensured higher prices for goods and services, a wide range of industries took the bait, Cole and Ohanian found. By 1934 more than 500 industries, which accounted for nearly 80 percent of private, non-agricultural employment, had entered into the collective bargaining agreements called for under NIRA.

Cole and Ohanian calculate that NIRA and its aftermath account for 60 percent of the weak recovery. Without the policies, they contend that the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they believe the slump actually ended: 1943.

NIRA's labor provisions, meanwhile, were strengthened in the National Relations Act, signed into law in 1935. As union membership doubled, so did labor's bargaining power, rising from 14 million strike days in 1936 to about 28 million in 1937. By 1939 wages in protected industries remained 24 percent to 33 percent above where they should have been, based on 1929 figures, Cole and Ohanian calculate. Unemployment persisted. By 1939 the U.S. unemployment rate was 17.2 percent, down somewhat from its 1933 peak of 24.9 percent but still remarkably high. By comparison, in May 2003, the unemployment rate of 6.1 percent was the highest in nine years.

Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically stepped enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found.

"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."
 
My first question would be, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China, my second question would be are you retarded or just stupid, my third question would be in regard to my second question, are you both.....


Summary
Timeline of the Great Depression
The Great Depression, to 1935
The Main Causes of the Great Depression
Stiff upper lip.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Great-Depression-New-Deal-Introductions/dp/0195326342/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1230302046&sr=1-8]Amazon.com: The Great Depression and the New Deal: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions): Eric Rauchway: Books[/ame]
interesting for today
Project Syndicate
 
My first question would be, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China, my second question would be are you retarded or just stupid, my third question would be in regard to my second question, are you both.....


Summary
Timeline of the Great Depression
The Great Depression, to 1935
The Main Causes of the Great Depression
Stiff upper lip.

Amazon.com: The Great Depression and the New Deal: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions): Eric Rauchway: Books
interesting for today
Project Syndicate

Here's my question.

Would your obnoxious response to the post be based on a sensitivity to the fact that Democrat policies have had deleterious effects on numerous occasions?

And specifically, the financial meltdown in which we find ourselves?

Further, while there were many good results of the FDR reign, ending the depression was not one, and many sources state exactly what the post claims. Here's one:
In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
 
My first question would be, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China, my second question would be are you retarded or just stupid, my third question would be in regard to my second question, are you both.....


Summary
Timeline of the Great Depression
The Great Depression, to 1935
The Main Causes of the Great Depression
Stiff upper lip.

Amazon.com: The Great Depression and the New Deal: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions): Eric Rauchway: Books
interesting for today
Project Syndicate

IOW, you have nothing but ad homs...
 
IMO, Roosevelt suffered from many of the same issues that Obama suffers from now.

1. Even at the rate we are spending, it is not possible for the government to spend enough on "projects" to allow a recovery. (Unless, of course, you shrink the economy enough)

2. Too many constituencies to make happy. With Roosevelt it the "no free trade" crowd and the unions. There is pressure on the Bama to kowtow to the same constituencies. Passing Smoot-Hawley made the Depression deeper. The Wagner act, made business less certain and sentenced a struggling recovery to crib death.

3. Too much uncertainty for business. Roosevelt had his share as noted above, but Obama will add health care and Cap and Tax to the mix. Should cap and tax pass, it will make the effect the Wagner act had on that recovery pale by comparison.
 
IMO, Roosevelt suffered from many of the same issues that Obama suffers from now.

1. Even at the rate we are spending, it is not possible for the government to spend enough on "projects" to allow a recovery. (Unless, of course, you shrink the economy enough)

2. Too many constituencies to make happy. With Roosevelt it the "no free trade" crowd and the unions. There is pressure on the Bama to kowtow to the same constituencies. Passing Smoot-Hawley made the Depression deeper. The Wagner act, made business less certain and sentenced a struggling recovery to crib death.

3. Too much uncertainty for business. Roosevelt had his share as noted above, but Obama will add health care and Cap and Tax to the mix. Should cap and tax pass, it will make the effect the Wagner act had on that recovery pale by comparison.

Without WWII, Roosevelt would have been a far more marginalized in the history books - likely no better than a mediocre two-term president who left office with the Depression still dragging along.

He had the benefit of a the then new medium of radio and WWII that rallied Americans strongly behind him despite his lack or adequate success up to that point.

That being said, he led this nation well during that pivitol war, and gets solid props for that. America succeeded in spite of Roosevelt's domestic policies though, not because of them...
 
They're right that FDR prolonged the Depression, though I would beg to differ with the ending year of the Great Depression being 1943. The Depression didn't end until after World War 2 ended.
 
IMO, Roosevelt suffered from many of the same issues that Obama suffers from now.

1. Even at the rate we are spending, it is not possible for the government to spend enough on "projects" to allow a recovery. (Unless, of course, you shrink the economy enough)

2. Too many constituencies to make happy. With Roosevelt it the "no free trade" crowd and the unions. There is pressure on the Bama to kowtow to the same constituencies. Passing Smoot-Hawley made the Depression deeper. The Wagner act, made business less certain and sentenced a struggling recovery to crib death.

3. Too much uncertainty for business. Roosevelt had his share as noted above, but Obama will add health care and Cap and Tax to the mix. Should cap and tax pass, it will make the effect the Wagner act had on that recovery pale by comparison.

Without WWII, Roosevelt would have been a far more marginalized in the history books - likely no better than a mediocre two-term president who left office with the Depression still dragging along.

He had the benefit of a the then new medium of radio and WWII that rallied Americans strongly behind him despite his lack or adequate success up to that point.

That being said, he led this nation well during that pivitol war, and gets solid props for that. America succeeded in spite of Roosevelt's domestic policies though, not because of them...

As far as the Depression, we are certainly on the same page, but there are more facets here that should be considered, and I can't recall the provenance of this quote, but I'd like to throw this in for consideration:
"Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?"
 
They're right that FDR prolonged the Depression, though I would beg to differ with the ending year of the Great Depression being 1943. The Depression didn't end until after World War 2 ended.

Right, usually the Dumbarton Oaks Conference, October of '44 is given as the main impetus:
"Treasury Department crafted an international monetary mechanism designed to engender relatively free trade and, consequently, global prosperity"
 
As usual, there is never a human aspect to the solutions of critics of FDR or Obama, and no REAL perspective of what or was (or is) happening "on the ground"...

The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

The idiotic notion that doing "nothing" was (or is) the best course is investing in an ideology that has no regard for WE, the PEOPLE or any lick of common sense...it is in essence exactly what right wingers like to accuse liberals of... living in a dream world...belief in utopia... "laissez faire utopia"


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945
 
The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

Excellent defense of inhance interrogation techniques!

The idiotic notion that doing "nothing" was (or is) the best course ...

"Instead of bailing out failing businesses, expanding government, and redistributing taxpayer money with a "stimulus" plan, Harding responded by cutting spending and removing burdensome regulations and taxes. During his campaign, he argued, "We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation." In stark contrast with the Bush-Obama response of ever-more government spending and debt, Harding had federal spending cut in half between 1920 and 1922 and ultimately ran a surplus.
As a result, the recession that started in 1920 ended before 1923. Lower taxes and reduced regulation helped America's economy quickly adjust after the war as entrepreneurs and capital were freed to create jobs and push the economy to recover. Harding's free market policies lead to the Roaring Twenties, known for technological advances, women's rights, the explosion of the middle class, and some of the most rapid economic growth in American history. Still, he is ranked as one of the worst presidents by many in academia's ivory tower."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obama_should_channel_harding_n.htm


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

Good quote, and true.

But 'try,' if you don't succeed, and in fact delay recovery, doesn't cut the mustard.
 
First, to the newbie, you have to post the link if you are going to post items from elsewhere, otherwise you're going to get slapped down by the mods. Here it is.

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate / UCLA Newsroom

Second, the study only deals with NIRA, which was the single most disastrous policy implemented during the New Deal. The study is probably correct. Even modern-day New Dealers acknowledge this.

However, the study does not address all the other programs implemented during the New Deal. It does not deal with the many other programs implemented during that time. Its kind of like judging the entire Reagan Presidency only on Iran-Contra.
 
This article was published 5 years ago, it's nothing new.

I've been curious as to what the authors used to benchmark the recovery and their argument that FDR's policy prolonged it five years.

One common benchmark of economic performance is GDP, which is recorded by the Bureau of Economic Analysis of the Dept of Commerce:

Year - actual GDP - $2000 GDP - %chng $2000 GDP

1929 103.6 865.2
1930 91.2 790.7 -8.6%
1931 76.5 739.9 -6.4%
1932 58.7 643.7 -13.0%
1933 56.4 635.5 -1.3%
1934 66.0 704.2 10.8%
1935 73.3 766.9 8.9%
1936 83.8 866.6 13.0%
1937 91.9 911.1 5.1%
1938 86.1 879.7 -3.4%
1939 92.2 950.7 8.1%
1940 101.4 1,034.1 8.8%

We can see from GDP figures that real GDP began growing strongly after FDR was elected, and recovered to its pre depression level by 1936. Actual GDP, lower because of significant deflation, took longer to recover.

So what the basis for the author's claim that FDR policies delayed recover? It looks like recovery took off after FDR's policies were implemented.

The only point I've heard in response is that while unemployment fell from 25% to 15% in 1936, it remained stubbornly high until WWII. To this point, the argument that artificial wage boosts (both from the Govt and because of deflation) reduced the level of employment. I haven't studied it, but that is a plausible argument.
 
The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

Excellent defense of inhance interrogation techniques!

The idiotic notion that doing "nothing" was (or is) the best course ...

"Instead of bailing out failing businesses, expanding government, and redistributing taxpayer money with a "stimulus" plan, Harding responded by cutting spending and removing burdensome regulations and taxes. During his campaign, he argued, "We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation." In stark contrast with the Bush-Obama response of ever-more government spending and debt, Harding had federal spending cut in half between 1920 and 1922 and ultimately ran a surplus.
As a result, the recession that started in 1920 ended before 1923. Lower taxes and reduced regulation helped America's economy quickly adjust after the war as entrepreneurs and capital were freed to create jobs and push the economy to recover. Harding's free market policies lead to the Roaring Twenties, known for technological advances, women's rights, the explosion of the middle class, and some of the most rapid economic growth in American history. Still, he is ranked as one of the worst presidents by many in academia's ivory tower."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obama_should_channel_harding_n.htm


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

Good quote, and true.

But 'try,' if you don't succeed, and in fact delay recovery, doesn't cut the mustard.


The 1920 recession was a post war recession, where demand for guns fell dramatically and industry retooled to make consumer goods. While marked with significant deflation, it was a relatively mild recession; in no way comparable in type or severity to the stock market/credit failure induced panic which characteristic of the Great Depression.
 
The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

Excellent defense of inhance interrogation techniques!

The idiotic notion that doing "nothing" was (or is) the best course ...

"Instead of bailing out failing businesses, expanding government, and redistributing taxpayer money with a "stimulus" plan, Harding responded by cutting spending and removing burdensome regulations and taxes. During his campaign, he argued, "We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation." In stark contrast with the Bush-Obama response of ever-more government spending and debt, Harding had federal spending cut in half between 1920 and 1922 and ultimately ran a surplus.
As a result, the recession that started in 1920 ended before 1923. Lower taxes and reduced regulation helped America's economy quickly adjust after the war as entrepreneurs and capital were freed to create jobs and push the economy to recover. Harding's free market policies lead to the Roaring Twenties, known for technological advances, women's rights, the explosion of the middle class, and some of the most rapid economic growth in American history. Still, he is ranked as one of the worst presidents by many in academia's ivory tower."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obama_should_channel_harding_n.htm


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

Good quote, and true.

But 'try,' if you don't succeed, and in fact delay recovery, doesn't cut the mustard.

If a swimmer goes below the surface; you have two choice, but whichever one you choose, that person will eventually return to the surface, but with drastically different futures...

You are comparing different economic circumstances that have different causes...

1920 - The recession was caused by the end of wartime production, along with an influx of labor from returning troops causing high unemployment. The war also had a lasting effect on global trade. The industries of continental Europe had been badly damaged by the war and the Russian Revolution had removed that nation from the world economy. Monetarists argue the most important cause was wartime inflation caused by the borrowing and printing of money to fund the war effort. Free-market economists also believe the recession was necessary. The rapid growth and increase in production had been largely due to the partial command economy imposed during the war. Free marketers believe that any such growth is illusory and must later be paid for in the form of a recession.

North America

The economy shrank by a considerably larger percentage than it did in the Great Depression. However, the recession was very short lived. Factories soon retooled and adapted to producing consumer goods. The new factories began producing products such as radios and automobiles. Women, who had entered the work force in large numbers during the war, mostly left the fields and factories, opening jobs for returning soldiers.
wiki
 
The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

Excellent defense of inhance interrogation techniques!



"Instead of bailing out failing businesses, expanding government, and redistributing taxpayer money with a "stimulus" plan, Harding responded by cutting spending and removing burdensome regulations and taxes. During his campaign, he argued, "We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation." In stark contrast with the Bush-Obama response of ever-more government spending and debt, Harding had federal spending cut in half between 1920 and 1922 and ultimately ran a surplus.
As a result, the recession that started in 1920 ended before 1923. Lower taxes and reduced regulation helped America's economy quickly adjust after the war as entrepreneurs and capital were freed to create jobs and push the economy to recover. Harding's free market policies lead to the Roaring Twenties, known for technological advances, women's rights, the explosion of the middle class, and some of the most rapid economic growth in American history. Still, he is ranked as one of the worst presidents by many in academia's ivory tower."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obama_should_channel_harding_n.htm


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

Good quote, and true.

But 'try,' if you don't succeed, and in fact delay recovery, doesn't cut the mustard.

If a swimmer goes below the surface; you have two choice, but whichever one you choose, that person will eventually return to the surface, but with drastically different futures...

You are comparing different economic circumstances that have different causes...

1920 - The recession was caused by the end of wartime production, along with an influx of labor from returning troops causing high unemployment. The war also had a lasting effect on global trade. The industries of continental Europe had been badly damaged by the war and the Russian Revolution had removed that nation from the world economy. Monetarists argue the most important cause was wartime inflation caused by the borrowing and printing of money to fund the war effort. Free-market economists also believe the recession was necessary. The rapid growth and increase in production had been largely due to the partial command economy imposed during the war. Free marketers believe that any such growth is illusory and must later be paid for in the form of a recession.

North America

The economy shrank by a considerably larger percentage than it did in the Great Depression. However, the recession was very short lived. Factories soon retooled and adapted to producing consumer goods. The new factories began producing products such as radios and automobiles. Women, who had entered the work force in large numbers during the war, mostly left the fields and factories, opening jobs for returning soldiers.
wiki


"...the recession was very short lived."
Due to the anti-Obama policies of Harding.
 
As usual, there is never a human aspect to the solutions of critics of FDR or Obama, and no REAL perspective of what or was (or is) happening "on the ground"...

The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

The idiotic notion that doing "nothing" was (or is) the best course is investing in an ideology that has no regard for WE, the PEOPLE or any lick of common sense...it is in essence exactly what right wingers like to accuse liberals of... living in a dream world...belief in utopia... "laissez faire utopia"


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

The PEOPLE are better off not being burdened by a 15 year depression caused by foolish government policies.
 
The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

Excellent defense of inhance interrogation techniques!

"Instead of bailing out failing businesses, expanding government, and redistributing taxpayer money with a "stimulus" plan, Harding responded by cutting spending and removing burdensome regulations and taxes. During his campaign, he argued, "We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation." In stark contrast with the Bush-Obama response of ever-more government spending and debt, Harding had federal spending cut in half between 1920 and 1922 and ultimately ran a surplus.
As a result, the recession that started in 1920 ended before 1923. Lower taxes and reduced regulation helped America's economy quickly adjust after the war as entrepreneurs and capital were freed to create jobs and push the economy to recover. Harding's free market policies lead to the Roaring Twenties, known for technological advances, women's rights, the explosion of the middle class, and some of the most rapid economic growth in American history. Still, he is ranked as one of the worst presidents by many in academia's ivory tower."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obama_should_channel_harding_n.htm


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

Good quote, and true.

But 'try,' if you don't succeed, and in fact delay recovery, doesn't cut the mustard.

If a swimmer goes below the surface; you have two choice, but whichever one you choose, that person will eventually return to the surface, but with drastically different futures...

You are comparing different economic circumstances that have different causes...

1920 - The recession was caused by the end of wartime production, along with an influx of labor from returning troops causing high unemployment. The war also had a lasting effect on global trade. The industries of continental Europe had been badly damaged by the war and the Russian Revolution had removed that nation from the world economy. Monetarists argue the most important cause was wartime inflation caused by the borrowing and printing of money to fund the war effort. Free-market economists also believe the recession was necessary. The rapid growth and increase in production had been largely due to the partial command economy imposed during the war. Free marketers believe that any such growth is illusory and must later be paid for in the form of a recession.

North America

The economy shrank by a considerably larger percentage than it did in the Great Depression. However, the recession was very short lived. Factories soon retooled and adapted to producing consumer goods. The new factories began producing products such as radios and automobiles. Women, who had entered the work force in large numbers during the war, mostly left the fields and factories, opening jobs for returning soldiers.
wiki

That statement conflicts with this data:


Year - GDP 1929$
1919 $70,271
1920 71,383
1921 68,355
1922 73,150
1923 82,994
1924 85,222
1925 87,359
1926 93,438
1927 94,161
1928 95,715
1929 101,444
1930 91,513
1931 84,300
1932 70,682
1933 68,337
1934 74,609
1935 85,806
1936 95,798
1937 103,917

Real GDP and GNP

According to this data, Real GDP fell 4% in the 1920 recession; it fell over 30% in the great depression.[/QUOTE]
 
Excellent defense of inhance interrogation techniques!



"Instead of bailing out failing businesses, expanding government, and redistributing taxpayer money with a "stimulus" plan, Harding responded by cutting spending and removing burdensome regulations and taxes. During his campaign, he argued, "We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation." In stark contrast with the Bush-Obama response of ever-more government spending and debt, Harding had federal spending cut in half between 1920 and 1922 and ultimately ran a surplus.
As a result, the recession that started in 1920 ended before 1923. Lower taxes and reduced regulation helped America's economy quickly adjust after the war as entrepreneurs and capital were freed to create jobs and push the economy to recover. Harding's free market policies lead to the Roaring Twenties, known for technological advances, women's rights, the explosion of the middle class, and some of the most rapid economic growth in American history. Still, he is ranked as one of the worst presidents by many in academia's ivory tower."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obama_should_channel_harding_n.htm




Good quote, and true.

But 'try,' if you don't succeed, and in fact delay recovery, doesn't cut the mustard.

If a swimmer goes below the surface; you have two choice, but whichever one you choose, that person will eventually return to the surface, but with drastically different futures...

You are comparing different economic circumstances that have different causes...

1920 - The recession was caused by the end of wartime production, along with an influx of labor from returning troops causing high unemployment. The war also had a lasting effect on global trade. The industries of continental Europe had been badly damaged by the war and the Russian Revolution had removed that nation from the world economy. Monetarists argue the most important cause was wartime inflation caused by the borrowing and printing of money to fund the war effort. Free-market economists also believe the recession was necessary. The rapid growth and increase in production had been largely due to the partial command economy imposed during the war. Free marketers believe that any such growth is illusory and must later be paid for in the form of a recession.

North America

The economy shrank by a considerably larger percentage than it did in the Great Depression. However, the recession was very short lived. Factories soon retooled and adapted to producing consumer goods. The new factories began producing products such as radios and automobiles. Women, who had entered the work force in large numbers during the war, mostly left the fields and factories, opening jobs for returning soldiers.
wiki


"...the recession was very short lived."
Due to the anti-Obama policies of Harding.

Two totally different circumstances require the same solution...?

Show me how the current recession is the same?

Factories soon retooled and adapted to producing consumer goods. The new factories began producing products such as radios and automobiles. Women, who had entered the work force in large numbers during the war, mostly left the fields and factories, opening jobs for returning soldiers.
 
As usual, there is never a human aspect to the solutions of critics of FDR or Obama, and no REAL perspective of what or was (or is) happening "on the ground"...

The PEOPLE and their virtual survival is the FIRST and most important role of the government of WE, the PEOPLE...

The idiotic notion that doing "nothing" was (or is) the best course is investing in an ideology that has no regard for WE, the PEOPLE or any lick of common sense...it is in essence exactly what right wingers like to accuse liberals of... living in a dream world...belief in utopia... "laissez faire utopia"


"The admirable trait in Roosevelt is that he has the guts to try. ...He does it all with the rarest good nature. ...We have exchanged for a frown in the White House a smile. Where there were hesitation and vacillation, weighing always the personal political consequences, feebleness, timidity, and duplicity, there are now courage and boldness and real action."
Hiram Johnson - Republican US Senator from 1917 to 1945

The PEOPLE are better off not being burdened by a 15 year depression caused by foolish government policies.

The PEOPLE are a lot better off not being subjected to a 25% real decline in GDP because the Govt sat on its hands while the banking system collapsed.
 

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