Faken The Hate

[wonderwench]

Originally posted by William Joyce
For a compedium of faked "hate" crimes, see here:

http://amren.com/news/news04/03/05/hoax.html

wonderwench's theory that WHITE people commit all the crime is not borne out by the stats. Tell the truth, ww: where would you rather live, Harlem, or your current redoubt?

Wrong, WJ. I did not say any such thing. I just provided some examples of white people who have committed fraud in order to counteract Statistics Boi.

Unlike you, I do not generalize about an entire ethnic group due to the aberrant behavior of a few individuals.

I live in Oakland CA - which has neighborhoods which are far worse than Harlem. I'll stay in my current neighborhood. I love it.

 

[William Joyce]

What's the racial breakdown of your neighborhood?

 

[wonderwench]

Originally posted by William Joyce
What's the racial breakdown of your neighborhood?

I've never counted. With frequency I see white, blacks and asians. We have quite a few black families nearby, including our next door neighbors.

 

[William Joyce]

Sounds a little like mine --- a few decorative minorities who are proudly paraded by the self-hating white liberals, but the backbone is white. It's funny how even the hardest-core white liberals never stay in all-black neighborhoods for longer than the semester.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by jon_forward
why is this posted here???

Because he's a fearful little man bent on infecting others with his fear.

 

[William Joyce]

speaking of fakin' the hate, here's fakin' the inventions:

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

 

[wonderwench]

Originally posted by William Joyce
Sounds a little like mine --- a few decorative minorities who are proudly paraded by the self-hating white liberals, but the backbone is white. It's funny how even the hardest-core white liberals never stay in all-black neighborhoods for longer than the semester.

You really are a piece of work. I live in a mixed neighborhood. I do not parade around token people of any kind. I've lived in my house for 8 years - and plan to be there for a long time.

It's sad how you can take something nice and twist it into something ugly.

 

[jon_forward]

if you makean inprovement on a device you can get a patent...is it possible that something not made better by a caucasan would worry you? I could really care less who invented what ...as long as what is invented is needed and used in a peaceful way is all that is important..wouldnt you agree?

 

[Avatar4321]

Sighs. I hate racism. I dont care what color you are or what you claim your intentions are. If you look at someones race and make a judgement on that and not on the character of the person, you are messed up.

Its sad how these white supremesists have gone along with the liberal multicutural/Multiethnicity agenda and abandoned the melting pot that makes America unique.

Being American isnt something that is based on skin color, or ethnicity. Being American is an ideal. Its having a love of freedom. Its have the spirit to work hard for what you want. Its being willing to help others be free even if it costs you your life. if it was just something youre born into there would be no way to be unamerican. You never hear unfrench or ungerman or even unbritish. But being an American means you stand for an ideal and even if you were born elsewhere and immigrated legally i would be proud to call you american.

 

[William Joyce]

This is an absolute lie. America was for centuries a country built by and for white people. If America were nothing but Mexicans, it wouldn't be America. It would be Mexico.

 

[jon_forward]

Originally posted by William Joyce
This is an absolute lie. America was for centuries a country built by and for white people. If America were nothing but Mexicans, it wouldn't be America. It would be Mexico.

on the backs of others...those that couldnt run fast enough!!!africans ...asians....

 

[William Joyce]

Nah. There is probably not a single existing garment made from cotton picked by slaves. Except this one T-shirt I've had for about that long. Maybe I should take it off and take it to Harlem and offer it to the first person I see!

 

[Avatar4321]

This is an absolute lie. America was for centuries a country built by and for white people. If America were nothing but Mexicans, it wouldn't be America. It would be Mexico.

American wasnt built for any racial groups. It was built on the idea that all men (and when i say men i mean mankind which includes women) are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unallieble rights.

Quite frankly that means it doesnt matter if you are white, black, hispanic, asian, red, green, brown, purple, or any other color or ethnic group. You have the same rights as everyone else.

 

[jon_forward]

you speak in past tense[hundreds of years] and I speak in past tense...fair enough?

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
American wasnt built for any racial groups. It was built on the idea that all men (and when i say men i mean mankind which includes women) are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unallieble rights.

Quite frankly that means it doesnt matter if you are white, black, hispanic, asian, red, green, brown, purple, or any other color or ethnic group. You have the same rights as everyone else.

I would like to comment on how all groups of people are equal, but the NAACP image awards are on tonight.

You know that award show that is ONLY for blacks.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by William Joyce
This is an absolute lie. America was for centuries a country built by and for white people. If America were nothing but Mexicans, it wouldn't be America. It would be Mexico.

Willie its you thats been lied to and you've bought it hook, line and sinker. Have you read the Constitution or the inscription on the Statue Of Liberty lately? That says it all right there. But nevertheless America will always be a beacon for immigrants no matter where they are from, it will NEVER be an all white place as you say you desire, its really a mute point.

 

[William Joyce]

Highest grade in Constitutional Law back in law school, but thanks for asking.

Now. As to the idea that America was "made for all races."

The following is white nationalist Jared Taylor's response to communist-turned-neocon David Horowitz on that very issue:

Reply to David Horowitz by Jared Taylor

I have long admired Mr. Horowitz's efforts to expose the double standards and ethnic shakedowns that go by the name of multiculturalism. He is also among the very few commentators who understand the significance of crimes such as the Wichita Massacre-and the media silence that greets them-and I greatly appreciate his help in making this outrage better known.

Mr. Horowitz is quite correct in his description of how his vision of America differs from mine, and also correct to say that I would argue racial consciousness is a natural part of the human condition that we should accept rather than attempt to change. It is his historical perspective that is wrong. My view of America-as a self-consciously European, majority-white nation-is not a recent reaction to the excesses of multiculturalism; it is the original conception of this country, and one that was almost universally accepted until the 1960s.

Many people appear to believe that the motto E Pluribus Unum means that the United States was always meant to be a melting pot of the world's people. In fact, "out of many, one," the motto chosen for the great seal in 1776, refers to the 13 colonies united into one nation. It has nothing to do with multi-racialism.

Since the founding, and up until just a few decades ago, virtually all Americans took it for granted that the United States was, by nature and destiny, a white country. To be sure, there were blacks and Indians, but most Americans saw their presence as a misfortune, and certainly as no threat to the numerical and cultural dominance of whites.

In 1787, in the second of The Federalist Papers, John Jay gave thanks that "Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs . . . ." This is not a celebration of "diversity" or of the melting pot.

Thomas Jefferson thought it had been a terrible mistake to bring blacks to America, and wrote that they should be freed from slavery and then "removed from beyond the reach of mixture." He looked forward to the day when whites would populate not just North but South America, adding "nor can we contemplate with satisfaction either blot or mixture on that surface."

The American Colonization Society was founded to free black slaves and persuade them to return to Africa. As Henry Clay put it at the society's inaugural meeting in 1816, its purpose was to "rid our country of a useless and pernicious, if not dangerous portion of the population." The following prominent Americans were not just members but served as officers of the society: Andrew Jackson, Daniel Webster, Stephen Douglas, William Seward, Francis Scott Key, Gen. Winfield Scott, and two Chief Justices of the Supreme Court, John Marshall and Roger Taney. As for James Monroe, the capital of Liberia is named Monrovia in gratitude for his help in sending blacks to Africa.

Abraham Lincoln also favored colonization. He was the first President ever to invite a delegation of blacks officially to visit the White House; he held the meeting to ask them to persuade their people to leave. Even in the midst of a desperate war with the Confederacy, Lincoln found time to study the problem of black colonization, and to appoint Rev. James Mitchell as Commissioner of Emigration.

His successor Andrew Johnson felt the same way: "This is a country for white men," he wrote, "and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men . . . ." James Garfield certainly agreed. Before he became President he wrote, "[I have] a strong feeling of repugnance when I think of the negro being made our political equal and I would be glad if they could be colonized, sent to heaven, or got rid of in any decent way . . . ."

What of 20th century Presidents? Theodore Roosevelt thought blacks were "a perfectly stupid race," and blamed Southerners for bringing them to America. In 1901 he wrote: "I have not been able to think out any solution to the terrible problem offered by the presence of the Negro on this continent . . . he is here and can neither be killed nor driven away . . . ." As for Indians, he once said, "I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't inquire too closely into the health of the tenth."

Woodrow Wilson was a confirmed segregationist, and as president of Princeton prevented blacks from enrolling. He enforced segregation in government offices and was supported in this by Charles Eliot, president of Harvard, who argued that "civilized white men" could not be expected to work with "barbarous black men." During the Presidential campaign of 1912, Wilson campaigned to keep Asians out of the country: "I stand for the national policy of exclusion. . . . We cannot make a homogeneous population of a people who do not blend with the Caucasian race. . . . Oriental coolieism will give us another race problem to solve and surely we have had our lesson."

Henry Cabot Lodge took the view that "there is a limit to the capacity of any race for assimilating and elevating an inferior race, and when you begin to pour in unlimited numbers of people of alien or lower races of less social efficiency and less moral force, you are running the most frightful risk that any people can run."

Harry Truman is remembered for integrating the armed services by executive order, but in his private correspondence was as much a separatist as Jefferson: "I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia and white men in Europe and America."

As recent a President as Dwight Eisenhower argued that although it might be necessary to grant blacks certain political rights, this did not mean social equality "or that a Negro should court my daughter." It is only with John Kennedy that we finally find a President whose public pronouncements on race begin to be acceptable by today's standards (although he made virtually no effort to end segregation).

I have quoted politicians because they are cautious people who recirculate the bromides of their times. Mark Twain, who never sought anyone's vote, wrote of the American Indian that he was "a good, fair, desirable subject for extermination if ever there was one." Jack London explained that part of the appeal of socialism was that it was "devised so as to give more strength to these certain kindred favored races so that they may survive and inherit the earth to the extinction of the lesser, weaker races."

Samuel Gompers, probably the most famous labor leader in American history, reflected prevailing views. In 1921 he wrote: "Those who believe in unrestricted immigration want this country Chinaized. But I firmly believe that there are too many right-thinking people in our country to permit such an evil." He went on to add, "It must be clear to every thinking man and woman that while there is hardly a single reason for the admission of Asiatics, there are hundreds of good and strong reasons for their absolute exclusion."

The white, European character of the United States was enshrined in law. The first naturalization bill, passed in 1790, made citizenship available only to "free white persons." A few localities recognized free blacks as citizens of states, but the Supreme Court ruled in 1857 that no black, slave or free, could be a citizen of the United States. Blacks did gain U.S. citizenship under the post-Civil War amendments, but other races did not. State and federal laws excluded Asians, and in 1914 the Supreme Court upheld the principle that citizenship could be denied to foreign-born Asians.

The ban on immigration and naturalization of Chinese, established in 1882, continued until 1943. It was only when the United States found itself allied with China in the Second World War that Congress repealed the Chinese exclusion laws-but not by much. It set an annual quota of 105 Chinese. Needless to say, it permitted no immigration from Japan. Until 1965, the United States had a "national origins" immigration policy designed explicitly to keep the country white.

The history of the franchise reflects a clear conception of the United States as a nation ruled by and for whites. Before the federal government took control of voting rights in the 1960s, the states determined who could and could not vote. Only in 1924 did Congress confer citizenship on Indians, and every state that entered the union between 1819 and the Civil War kept blacks from voting. In 1855, Negroes could vote only in Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and Rhode Island, which together accounted for only four percent of the country's blacks. The federal government did not allow free Negroes to vote in the territories it controlled.

The 15th Amendment to the Constitution, which prohibited withholding the franchise on racial grounds, was not an expression of egalitarianism so much as an attempt to punish the South-where most blacks lived-and a political calculation by Republicans that they would win black support. In the West, there was great opposition to the amendment for fear it would mean Asians could vote, and in Rhode Island ratification nearly failed for fear it would mean the Irish "race" would get the vote.

Strong opposition to mixed marriage was enshrined in law. Sixteen states still had anti-miscegenation laws on the books in 1967, when the Supreme Court overturned them in Loving v. Virginia.

Mr. Horowitz is simply wrong when he writes of "going back to the good old American ideal" of
multi-racialism. I am certain that if all the prominent Americans I have quoted could rise from their graves, they would endorse the American Renaissance view of race and nation, and would be shocked at the idea of a multi-hued America in which we are to pretend race can be made not to matter. It is American Renaissance that is faithful to the original vision of America. Walt Whitman perhaps put it most succinctly when he wrote, "s not America for the Whites? And is it not better so?" Yes, it is.

Mr. Horowitz deplores the idea that "we are all prisoners of identity politics," implying that race and ethnicity are trivial matters we must work to overcome. But if that is so, why does the home page of FrontPageMag carry a perpetual appeal for contributions to "David's Defense of Israel Campaign"? Why Israel rather than, say, Kurdistan or Tibet or Euskadi or Chechnya? Because Mr. Horowitz is Jewish. His commitment to Israel is an expression of precisely the kind of particularist identity he would deny to me and to other racially-conscious whites. He passionately supports a self-consciously Jewish state but calls it "surrendering to the multicultural miasma" when I work to return to a self-consciously white America. He supports an explicitly ethnic identity for Israel but says American must not be allowed to have one.

Not long before he was assassinated, Yitzhak Rabin told U.S. News and World Report that as Prime Minister of Israel he had worked to achieve many things, but what he cared about most was that Israel remain at least 90 percent Jewish. He recognized that the character of Israel would change in fundamental-and to him unacceptable-ways if the non-Jewish population increased beyond a small minority. Equally obviously, the character of the United States is changing as non-whites arrive in large numbers.

Throughout most of its history, white Americans took the Rabin view: that their country had a distinctly racial and ethnic core that was to be preserved at all costs. When Mr. Horowitz writes about the "good old American ideal," that is what he should have in mind, not a historically inaccurate view that drapes a radical new course with trappings of false tradition.

By all means, let Israel remain Jewish, but by the same token let the United States remain majority-white. Mr. Horowitz has a distinguished record of fighting double standards, so he should recognize one when he sees it. If he supports a Jewish Israel, he should support a white America.

To which I can only say, BOO-YAH!!! Choke on THAT, you multiracial marxists!

 

[Big D]

Hey, is the NAACP all black award show on the all black entertainment channel BET?

 

[OCA]

Fine and Jim Dandy I love pointless rhetoric that can't possibly fit into todays America but you're vision of America will never happen, sorry. Now hows about anwering a question in your own terms instead of having to rely on your racist masters.

Hey D hypothetically speaking only because it has no chance of ever happening but in Willie's vision you'd have to take a hike too seeing as how you are Jewish.

 

[wonderwench]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Sighs. I hate racism. I dont care what color you are or what you claim your intentions are. If you look at someones race and make a judgement on that and not on the character of the person, you are messed up.

Its sad how these white supremesists have gone along with the liberal multicutural/Multiethnicity agenda and abandoned the melting pot that makes America unique.

Being American isnt something that is based on skin color, or ethnicity. Being American is an ideal. Its having a love of freedom. Its have the spirit to work hard for what you want. Its being willing to help others be free even if it costs you your life. if it was just something youre born into there would be no way to be unamerican. You never hear unfrench or ungerman or even unbritish. But being an American means you stand for an ideal and even if you were born elsewhere and immigrated legally i would be proud to call you american.