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You are an absolutist, aren't you? You want a definite answer... well let me clue you in on something... there is no definite answer.
ROFL! So you admit you can't define it. Yet, you want the government to craft legislation based on it. What could possible more arbitrary or totalitarian than bureaucrats deciding according to their own personal whims what "fairness" means?
How do you propose for the government to implement something you can't explain?
You call it weaseling... I call it dynamic. When one side has too much power... the other side rebels. That is the makeup of our system... the founding fathers knew it, rational people know it. You, however... don't.
What does "having too much power" have to do with "fairness?" You're jumping from one nebulous undefined term to another.
Just admit that you haven't got a clue about any rational set of rules for government to follow.
When I see that half of the workers in this country do not pay taxes, and some of them even get money from the gov't that they didn't pay in, it's kind of a hard sell to convince me the liberals want equal treatment under the law and equal opportunity in the marketplace. What they want is equality of outcomes, or as close to it as they can get.
They want to redistribute the wealth. No other way to say it, they want to take money from those who earned what they think is too much and give it to somebody else who hasn't earned it. Social democracy it's called, many countries in Europe have followed this policy for decades, and look where it's got them now. Since no one answered my questions in the OP, let's try this one: why do you think it'll work differently for us than it did for them?
That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.
That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.
People hired, are based on skills. Those with the same skills earn the same amount of living wage money. Those that excel in that same skill range receive bonuses, or/are advanced upward to a higher skill range and wage bracket.
When I see that half of the workers in this country do not pay taxes, and some of them even get money from the gov't that they didn't pay in, it's kind of a hard sell to convince me the liberals want equal treatment under the law and equal opportunity in the marketplace. What they want is equality of outcomes, or as close to it as they can get.
They want to redistribute the wealth. No other way to say it, they want to take money from those who earned what they think is too much and give it to somebody else who hasn't earned it. Social democracy it's called, many countries in Europe have followed this policy for decades, and look where it's got them now. Since no one answered my questions in the OP, let's try this one: why do you think it'll work differently for us than it did for them?
There is some quote in regards to this..
But basically.. when voters figure out they can vote themselves a free ride, that's the end of a representative democracy..
The government is huge, more controlling and obviously inept, it's not working out differently, it's heading for the cliff..
That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.
People hired, are based on skills. Those with the same skills earn the same amount of living wage money. Those that excel in that same skill range receive bonuses, or/are advanced upward to a higher skill range and wage bracket.
Oh, like how Teachers' Unions work?
The Left doesn't want fairness based upon productivity. You are spewing nonsense.
So a voice means 'equal result'? What level of life are you owed without work? hmm?Our government was invented to give us all a voice in what happens to us.
If we deside to not let people starve or die unattended from some disease than that is perfectly fine.
What boggles the mind is why so many of you find that to be some horrific crime.
As Einstein noted, doing the same thing over and over again is a sign of insanity.
Ergo, Social-Democrat Leftwing Lunatics really are nuts.
I know... you are way too far into your own little box to understand that both sides rely on each other for regulation and balance... to you it's just "US" vs. "Them"
People hired, are based on skills. Those with the same skills earn the same amount of living wage money. Those that excel in that same skill range receive bonuses, or/are advanced upward to a higher skill range and wage bracket.
When I see that half of the workers in this country do not pay taxes, and some of them even get money from the gov't that they didn't pay in, it's kind of a hard sell to convince me the liberals want equal treatment under the law and equal opportunity in the marketplace. What they want is equality of outcomes, or as close to it as they can get.
They want to redistribute the wealth. No other way to say it, they want to take money from those who earned what they think is too much and give it to somebody else who hasn't earned it. Social democracy it's called, many countries in Europe have followed this policy for decades, and look where it's got them now. Since no one answered my questions in the OP, let's try this one: why do you think it'll work differently for us than it did for them?
There is some quote in regards to this..
But basically.. when voters figure out they can vote themselves a free ride, that's the end of a representative democracy..
The government is huge, more controlling and obviously inept, it's not working out differently, it's heading for the cliff..
Yes, we should turn government into a privately run corporation to oversee the matters required for a society to flourish that you refuse to do for yourself.
I know... you are way too far into your own little box to understand that both sides rely on each other for regulation and balance... to you it's just "US" vs. "Them"
yep...right there....you got it Steel....
That's all I ever hear about from the liberals, we want fairness. So, what exactly is that and how do you achieve it in reality. Fairness based on outcomes? Everybody gets the same paycheck regardless of skill or effort? Or fairness based on equal opportunity? Kinda hard to guarantee that, I would think. Suppose somebody fucks off, do you subsidize him anyway? Step up and explain how the concept of fairness works for you.
People hired, are based on skills. Those with the same skills earn the same amount of living wage money. Those that excel in that same skill range receive bonuses, or/are advanced upward to a higher skill range and wage bracket.
Oh, like how Teachers' Unions work?
I am not a teacher or a union teacher representative, so I don't know how they work.
The Left doesn't want fairness based upon productivity. You are spewing nonsense.
There is some quote in regards to this..
But basically.. when voters figure out they can vote themselves a free ride, that's the end of a representative democracy..
The government is huge, more controlling and obviously inept, it's not working out differently, it's heading for the cliff..
Yes, we should turn government into a privately run corporation to oversee the matters required for a society to flourish that you refuse to do for yourself.
Your nonsense = + 2 .. so far..
Yes, we should turn government into a privately run corporation to oversee the matters required for a society to flourish that you refuse to do for yourself.
Your nonsense = + 2 .. so far..
You are a imbecile. You have complaints, but no clues to fix it, dumb ass. You don't even know what is wrong with it meat head!!
So a voice means 'equal result'? What level of life are you owed without work? hmm?Our government was invented to give us all a voice in what happens to us.
If we deside to not let people starve or die unattended from some disease than that is perfectly fine.
What boggles the mind is why so many of you find that to be some horrific crime.
Yes. I so see the equivalency between a behavioral problem like gambling and working for a living.So a voice means 'equal result'? What level of life are you owed without work? hmm?Our government was invented to give us all a voice in what happens to us.
If we deside to not let people starve or die unattended from some disease than that is perfectly fine.
What boggles the mind is why so many of you find that to be some horrific crime.
Yes indeed, I say that about gamblers, stock holders, CEOs, Board Members, insurance companies, and politicians.
Your nonsense = + 2 .. so far..
You are a imbecile. You have complaints, but no clues to fix it, dumb ass. You don't even know what is wrong with it meat head!!
.. I'd certainly consider myself an imbecile if I trusted your judgment...who wouldn't..
So a voice means 'equal result'? What level of life are you owed without work? hmm?Our government was invented to give us all a voice in what happens to us.
If we deside to not let people starve or die unattended from some disease than that is perfectly fine.
What boggles the mind is why so many of you find that to be some horrific crime.
Yes indeed, I say that about gamblers, stock holders, CEOs, Board Members, insurance companies, and politicians.