Exposing The Lie Of Israel Apartheid / Moscow's role

[Sixties Fan]

From the Jerusalem Post:

Palestinian exports of scrap iron from Gaza are slated to double now that a new iron-shredding machine, the second of its kind, has been placed at the Kerem Shalom crossing.

“Following work with many offices on both the Palestinian side and the Israeli side, the new iron-shredding machine has begun operating,” said the head of Israel’s Gaza Coordination and Liaison Administration’s Economic Department Aviv Hindi.

“This addition will make possible a doubling of iron scrap exports from the Gaza Strip, will give employment to many Gazan residents, and will provide for the economic welfare of many families,” he said.

“It is all part of a civilian policy that we have recently been advancing, on the understanding that civil stability leads to stable security.”

Each machine has a monthly output of some 6,000 tons of iron, allowing for a monthly profit of more than NIS 2.5 million per machine.

Which means that Israel is bringing millions of dollars a year to the economy of the sector whose leaders swear they will destroy Israel.

Sounds like apartheid, doesn't it?

But wait, there's more:

It’s part of a number of steps to ease Gaza restrictions taken by the office of the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories, headed by Maj.-Gen. Rassan Alian.

Major General Rassan Alian is not Jewish. He is Druze.

Wow, the harder you look, the more apartheid you find from those Jewish supremacists!

Apartheid Alert: Israel helping Gazan economy (again)

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[Sixties Fan]

Of course, nothing has changed over "decades." Israel controls essentially the same territory it did during Oslo - in fact, less, since it abandoned Gaza. At least 95% of Palestinians live under Palestinian rule in their day to day lives (notice that not one example of +972's "river to the sea" argument mentions Areas A or B where nearly all West Bank Palestinians live.) The number of settlements is virtually the same as they were in 1993.

There haven't been "decades of colonial expansion." If peace was possible during Oslo, it is possible now. The main thing that changed since Oslo is a little thing called an intifada where Palestinian leadership chose to murder Jews instead of compromising with them. And even after that, Israel offered peace multiple times and it was rejected.

The +972 crowd doesn't want to talk about that.

Since they started, they wanted to talk about "occupation." And then they expanded the definition of the term "occupation" to include places that are certainly not considered occupied under international law. For years they and their allies hammered at the "illegal occupation" and "colonialism" that simply doesn't exist.

Being against "occupation" is ultimately a legal argument, and people get bored of legal arguments. It doesn't grab one's attention unless one is already a hater of the Jewish state. The word "occupation" doesn't make people angry - after all, most people have occupations, most people occupy their homes.

The "occupation" experiment failed.

So the haters of Israel came up with a new strategy - not that new, since it was hatched in Durban in 2001. But it was decided among the modern antisemites that they need a word to replace "occupation," a word that horrifies people, a word with emotional baggage whose relationship to reality is not important.

"Apartheid" also has a legal definition, and the attempts by B'Tselem and Human Rights Watch and Amnesty and now +972 to shoehorn that definition to Israel have all failed spectacularly. But they know that they are not trying to argue facts and international law - they know they lose that battle.

The current "apartheid" campaign is not based on facts but on emotions. It is not law but propaganda. Its goal is to demonize and delegitimize Israel, the only country on the planet that gets treated this way.

This little +972 essay pretty much admits all of this. They are saying that they want their readers and the world to associate the word "apartheid" with Israel and to make them believe it by sheer repetition. Which is exactly what they used to do with "occupation."

(full article online)

"Apartheid" is the new "Occupation" - a term used purely for propaganda purposes

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[Sixties Fan]

( Why expect anything else from today's UN ?)



(full article online)

UN nominates 'Israel apartheid' activist to be Palestine rapporteur - UN Watch

GENEVA, February 24, 2022 — A radical pro-Palestinian advocate who routinely calls Israel an “apartheid” state and equates Palestinian suffering with the Nazi Holocaust has been nominated by the UN’s top human rights body for a 6-year term as its Special Rapporteur on Palestine, a position with...

unwatch.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

The misreporting also appears in AFP’s French and Arabic coverage.

Contrary to AFP reporting, following his remarks about Hamas atrocities, Israeli Ambassador Gilad Erdan rebutted at length the “apartheid” smear, although he did not repeat the word. After addressing Hamas’ terrorism, Amb. Erdan refuted the “absurd claims and heinous accusations” put forward in the joint delegitimization campaign taken up by both the Palestinian Authority and groups like Amnesty International (from one hour, 44 minutes into the video.) Amb. Erdan directly addressed the Palestinian’s apartheid charge, stating:



Notably, the Associated Press clearly reported on Ambassador Erdan’s response to the smear, providing details and quotes (“Israel rejects Palestinian accusations of ‘apartheid’“). AP accurately reported:

(full article online)

AFP Silences Israeli Ambassador Gilad Erdan

AFP falsely reports that Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan failed to respond to the Palestinian representative's vilification of Israel as an

www.camera.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

“2.5 million Palestinians live in Israel and East Jerusalem, restricted to enclaves that make up 3% of the entire area.”

The charge appears in a video the organization released alongside its report, whose purpose, it seems, is to relay the report’s conclusions to an audience that, for unknowable reasons, might not want to read 280 pages of repetitive, convoluted allegations.


An image from Amnesty International’s video, which falsely claims that Arab citizens are “restricted to enclaves that make up 3% of the entire area.”
Restricted. Enclaves. The claim is meant to evoke the Bantustans of apartheid South Africa. But it’s a flagrant lie.

It’s not just that the “three percent” statistic, while being treated as meaningful — evidence of apartheid, no less! — tells us very little. Most of Israel, after all, is open space. One could just as easily say that Jews, who make up a substantial majority of Israel’s population, live in “enclaves” amounting to a small fraction of the country’s area. It would be true. And it would tell us nothing.

But beyond the manipulative framing, Amnesty’s “fact” is straightforwardly fake. Let’s look first at Israel’s non-rural areas — the cities and medium sized towns where the overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews and Arabs live1. Cities and towns with a homogeneous Arab population take up 711 sq. km, which amounts to three percent of the country’s area. Arab citizens, though, are hardly “restricted” to these all-Arab communities.

Indeed, there are Arab minorities living in Israel’s most well-known cities (Jerusalem, Tel-Aviv, Haifa, Eilat) and in lesser-known cities and towns (Nof Hagalil, Ma’alot-Tarshiha, Ramle, Lod, Acco, Metulla). When including these locales, whose mixed populations are documented in demographic data by Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (2019), the land area in question increases substantially, from the roughly 711 sq. km suggested by Amnesty to 1,160 sq. km.

And there’s more. Past counts and research by academics have documented Arab populations in Carmiel, Nahariyya, Tzfat, Hadera, Afula, Kfar Sava, Netanya, Givatayim, and Harish. When these cities are added to the above, the land area in question increases to 1,370 sq. km. That’s already six percent of Israel’s area — double what Amnesty falsely claims. (By way of comparison, Jewish-majority cities and towns take up just about 10 percent of the land. The small number in each case is because, as noted above, Israel is mostly rural or open spaces.)

(full article online)

Case Study: The Anatomy of ONE of Amnesty’s Falsehoods

CAMERA has begun documenting the range of falsehoods in Amnesty’s report elsewhere. This piece, by contrast, will focus on one of Amnesty’s lies, diving

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[JoeB131]

An image from Amnesty International’s video, which falsely claims that Arab citizens are “restricted to enclaves that make up 3% of the entire area.”
Restricted. Enclaves. The claim is meant to evoke the Bantustans of apartheid South Africa. But it’s a flagrant lie.

Then the Zionist Entity should have no problem allowing all the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza to vote in national elections and for Fatah and Hamas to send representatives to the Knessett.

Anything less than that is Apartheid.

 

[Hollie]

Then the Zionist Entity should have no problem allowing all the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza to vote in national elections and for Fatah and Hamas to send representatives to the Knessett.

Anything less than that is Apartheid.

Why would the Israelis allow non-citizens to vote in their national elections?

Are Israelis allowed to vote in Fatah elections? What elections...


"Anything less than that is Apartheid"

Does that come with a jingle?

 

[JoeB131]

Why would the Israelis allow non-citizens to vote in their national elections?

Are Israelis allowed to vote in Fatah elections? What elections...


"Anything less than that is Apartheid"

Does that come with a jingle?

If the Zionist Entity is going to claim sovereignty over all of Palestine, it should allow everyone in it to vote.

Anything less than that is Apartheid.

 

[Sixties Fan]

If the Zionist Entity is going to claim sovereignty over all of Palestine, it should allow everyone in it to vote.

Anything less than that is Apartheid.

Israel does not claim sovereignty over all of the Mandate for Palestine.

78% is claimed by Jordan
2% is claimed by Hamas and the PA in Gaza and Judea and Samaria.

That makes it 80% of all of Palestine.

Jordan, Hamas and the PA are EACH, separate sovereign governments.

Your blind hatred makes you an idiot in the worse way.

 

[Hollie]

If the Zionist Entity is going to claim sovereignty over all of Palestine, it should allow everyone in it to vote.

Anything less than that is Apartheid.

The woke leftist entity is befuddled regarding national sovereignty. Israel is under no obligation to allow non-cirizens to vote in its national elections.

Perhaps the woke leftist entity can email the two, competing islamic terrorist entities of Fatah and Hamas and whine about the exclusion of Jews from those mini-caliphates and further whine about the lack of elections in those territories.

Anything less is apartheid.... Ready for a sing along?

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[JoeB131]

Israel does not claim sovereignty over all of the Mandate for Palestine.

78% is claimed by Jordan
2% is claimed by Hamas and the PA in Gaza and Judea and Samaria.

That makes it 80% of all of Palestine.

Jordan, Hamas and the PA are EACH, separate sovereign governments.

Your blind hatred makes you an idiot in the worse way.

Again, Jordan and Palestine were two separate entities under British rule.

Jordan was a puppet Kingdom set up by the British (called Transjordan). Palestine was set up as a British mandate they tried to settle with the Jews of Europe. Of course, no one was buying until Hitler started turning them into lampshades and bars of soap.

The Zionist Entity is a vestige of European Colonialism... nothing more, nothing less.

The woke leftist entity is befuddled regarding national sovereignty. Israel is under no obligation to allow non-cirizens to vote in its national elections.

Perhaps the woke leftist entity can email the two, competing islamic terrorist entities of Fatah and Hamas and whine about the exclusion of Jews from those mini-caliphates and further whine about the lack of elections in those territories.

Anything less is apartheid.... Ready for a sing along?

Or the Arabs get their land back, and the European Squatters go back to Europe. that would work, too.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Again, Jordan and Palestine were two separate entities under British rule.

Jordan was a puppet Kingdom set up by the British (called Transjordan). Palestine was set up as a British mandate they tried to settle with the Jews of Europe. Of course, no one was buying until Hitler started turning them into lampshades and bars of soap.

The Zionist Entity is a vestige of European Colonialism... nothing more, nothing less.



Or the Arabs get their land back, and the European Squatters go back to Europe. that would work, too.

It would work if Job, Squater in Chicago went back to where his ancestors came from.

Free the Americas to its Indigenous peoples !!!!!

 

[Hollie]

Again, Jordan and Palestine were two separate entities under British rule.

Jordan was a puppet Kingdom set up by the British (called Transjordan). Palestine was set up as a British mandate they tried to settle with the Jews of Europe. Of course, no one was buying until Hitler started turning them into lampshades and bars of soap.

The Zionist Entity is a vestige of European Colonialism... nothing more, nothing less.



Or the Arabs get their land back, and the European Squatters go back to Europe. that would work, too.

The woke, leftist entity is a bottomless pit of slogans and stereotypes.

I'm not surprised you abandoned the ludicrous idea that the Israelis should allow non-citizens to vote in their national elections. Your wokeness might be best served by screeching at the Pally occupiers of Gaza and the West Bank. The Gaza contingent of Islamic Terrorist Intl., Inc. voted in their oppressors and look how well that turned out.

Your Hitler fascination is not surprising. He's your hero, right?

 

[JoeB131]

It would work if Job, Squater in Chicago went back to where his ancestors came from.

Free the Americas to its Indigenous peoples !!!!!

Actually, I am 1/8th Native American.

Of course, most Americans today realize what was done to the indigenous people was a tragedy. (Except for people on the right, they don't want to teach history that makes white people look bad.)

I'm not surprised you abandoned the ludicrous idea that the Israelis should allow non-citizens to vote in their national elections. Your wokeness might be best served by screeching at the Pally occupiers of Gaza and the West Bank. The Gaza contingent of Islamic Terrorist Intl., Inc. voted in their oppressors and look how well that turned out.

Wow, so you are saying the indigenous people of a land should not be allowed to vote in MEANINGFUL national elections because you've declared them "Non-Citizens".

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RACISTS DID IN SOUTH AFRICA UNDER APARTHEID!!!!

This is also what White Racists did in America for a century after the Civil War.

Now, I know the Squatters have a problem. They can't keep Apartheid up forever without drawing the condemnation of the world. At some point, Fundy Christians in America are going to figure out that Jesus isn't coming back after all, and there's no reason to support the Zionist Entity with American Blood and Treasure.

A two-state solution might be okay, if the Palestinians decide the Squatters can steal their land with impunity.

Your Hitler fascination is not surprising. He's your hero, right?

Uh, pointing out Hitler did bad stuff is hardly heroizing him. I just don't use Hitler as an excuse for what the Zionists are doing today.

Just like I don't cut a rapist any slack because he was sexually abused as a child.

Just because someone did bad stuff to you doesn't mean you get to do bad stuff to other people.

And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused

Roger Waters, Amused to Death.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Actually, I am 1/8th Native American.

Of course, most Americans today realize what was done to the indigenous people was a tragedy. (Except for people on the right, they don't want to teach history that makes white people look bad.)



Wow, so you are saying the indigenous people of a land should not be allowed to vote in MEANINGFUL national elections because you've declared them "Non-Citizens".

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RACISTS DID IN SOUTH AFRICA UNDER APARTHEID!!!!

This is also what White Racists did in America for a century after the Civil War.

Now, I know the Squatters have a problem. They can't keep Apartheid up forever without drawing the condemnation of the world. At some point, Fundy Christians in America are going to figure out that Jesus isn't coming back after all, and there's no reason to support the Zionist Entity with American Blood and Treasure.

A two-state solution might be okay, if the Palestinians decide the Squatters can steal their land with impunity.



Uh, pointing out Hitler did bad stuff is hardly heroizing him. I just don't use Hitler as an excuse for what the Zionists are doing today.

Just like I don't cut a rapist any slack because he was sexually abused as a child.

Just because someone did bad stuff to you doesn't mean you get to do bad stuff to other people.

And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused

Roger Waters, Amused to Death.

Until someday you realize that the Jewish People ARE the indigenous people of the Land of Canaan, there is no hope to not seeing you post lies created since 1948 to help destroy Israel.

Each and every thing you have posted, including quoting a virulent Jew hater like Roger Waters, is not going to turn the Jews into the oppressors who "did not learn to do to others what was done to them "

Maybe someday, who knows, you will surprise us with finally educating yourself to the facts and the truth as so many like yourself have done.

Maybe someday you will have the guts to travel to Israel and get to know the facts from Israeli Arab citizens by yourself.

Maybe you will someday will be like these people who, who experienced Apartheid in South Africa, who know what Apartheid is really like:

https://assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrjodfi80/2urkHEgcJSm40QqyKEik4e/c15026fb516624af0a2088df06500e50/meshoe-a_black_south_african_on_israel_and_apartheid-transcript.pdf

Donât Call What Israel is Doing Apartheid | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

Apartheid, to the people it has directly affected, refers to something quite distinct and I would like to give those events their own sanctified space in our language.

www.thecrimson.com

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There are plenty of anti Israel people like yourself who went to Israel and ended up seeing the opposite of what they had been led to believe.

It is up to you to want to see and learn the truth.
Anything else is being stubborn to one's need to see the Jews as evil people.

A Black South African on Israel and Apartheid | PragerU

Is Israel an "apartheid state," as its enemies claim? Who better to answer that charge than a black South African who lived through apartheid? Kenneth…

www.prageru.com

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One really needs to want to in order to get there.
Let us see if you do watch these videos and read the articles. As well as the videos of Arabs citizens of Israel I have posted before. Why would they be pro Israel?

Let us see if you can stop to think about what they say.
Let us see if you can do research as to what is behind the accusation of Apartheid by so many Christians and Muslims. What could they be after?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Actually, I am 1/8th Native American.

Of course, most Americans today realize what was done to the indigenous people was a tragedy. (Except for people on the right, they don't want to teach history that makes white people look bad.)



Wow, so you are saying the indigenous people of a land should not be allowed to vote in MEANINGFUL national elections because you've declared them "Non-Citizens".

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RACISTS DID IN SOUTH AFRICA UNDER APARTHEID!!!!

This is also what White Racists did in America for a century after the Civil War.

Now, I know the Squatters have a problem. They can't keep Apartheid up forever without drawing the condemnation of the world. At some point, Fundy Christians in America are going to figure out that Jesus isn't coming back after all, and there's no reason to support the Zionist Entity with American Blood and Treasure.

A two-state solution might be okay, if the Palestinians decide the Squatters can steal their land with impunity.



Uh, pointing out Hitler did bad stuff is hardly heroizing him. I just don't use Hitler as an excuse for what the Zionists are doing today.

Just like I don't cut a rapist any slack because he was sexually abused as a child.

Just because someone did bad stuff to you doesn't mean you get to do bad stuff to other people.

And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused

Roger Waters, Amused to Death.

Also ask yourself, if Arabs are the Indigenous people of that land, why is the Palestinian Museum in Ramallah so empty of the history of these people before 1917 ?

New Palestinian museum opens without exhibits

Palestinian leaders formally open a new national museum in the occupied West Bank, even though it does not yet have any exhibits.

www.bbc.com

Multimillion-Dollar Palestinian Museum Opens Without Exhibits

Organizers wanted to open "because we think this is an awesome building."

abcnews.go.com

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So much money spent on the museum and nothing to show for it.



Why do the Palestinians keep destroying archeological sites instead of claiming them as their history?
Where is the Palestinian history in that area before 1917?

Palestinians Burn Jewish Holy Site in West Bank as Clashes Kill 4 (Published 2015)

An arson attack at Joseph’s Tomb punctuated another day of anti-Israeli protests by Palestinians in parts of the occupied West Bank and in Gaza. The violence left at least four dead.

www.nytimes.com

The Palestinian assault on Jewish history and heritage - opinion

Hundreds of cherished Jewish sites in the Land of Israel which survived 2,000 years are being systematically destroyed right under our noses by the Palestinians.

www.jpost.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Actually, I am 1/8th Native American.

Of course, most Americans today realize what was done to the indigenous people was a tragedy. (Except for people on the right, they don't want to teach history that makes white people look bad.)



Wow, so you are saying the indigenous people of a land should not be allowed to vote in MEANINGFUL national elections because you've declared them "Non-Citizens".

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RACISTS DID IN SOUTH AFRICA UNDER APARTHEID!!!!

This is also what White Racists did in America for a century after the Civil War.

Now, I know the Squatters have a problem. They can't keep Apartheid up forever without drawing the condemnation of the world. At some point, Fundy Christians in America are going to figure out that Jesus isn't coming back after all, and there's no reason to support the Zionist Entity with American Blood and Treasure.

A two-state solution might be okay, if the Palestinians decide the Squatters can steal their land with impunity.



Uh, pointing out Hitler did bad stuff is hardly heroizing him. I just don't use Hitler as an excuse for what the Zionists are doing today.

Just like I don't cut a rapist any slack because he was sexually abused as a child.

Just because someone did bad stuff to you doesn't mean you get to do bad stuff to other people.

And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused

Roger Waters, Amused to Death.

What is behind Roger Water's anti Israel stance?
It is the Jews !!!!! It is the Jews !!!!!
England's long hatred of Jews, since they embraced Christianity, is a clue as to why so many in the country can believe the evil of Jews and that of Israel itself.
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Are anti-Israel and anti-Jewish one and the same?

Not always, but some anti-Semites use "Israel" as a code word for Jews.

Waters denies being anti-Jewish, but sometimes makes me wonder. When he used an inflated pig with a Star of David and dollar signs on it flying around the concert hall, that is religiously offensive and promotes the slur that the only thing Jews care about is money.

When he says American musicians are "scared" to join him in BDS because they fear that it would end their careers, when it hasn't ended his, that isn't directed against Israel but against American Jews.

Is Roger Waters an anti-Semite?

"We at ZOA question if someone who is anti-gay, anti-black, anti-woman, would be welcome on their stage."

www.inquirer.com

Roger Waters Slammed for ‘Deranged Antisemitism’ After Asserting Jewish Billionaire Controls US Government - Algemeiner.com

Former Pink Floyd bassist Roger Waters -- long known for his hatred of Israel -- was slammed on Monday after a video of him claiming Jewish billionaire philanthropist Sheldon Adelson was a “puppet master” controlling the American government emerged online. In an interview with the...

www.algemeiner.com

 

[Hollie]

Actually, I am 1/8th Native American.

Of course, most Americans today realize what was done to the indigenous people was a tragedy. (Except for people on the right, they don't want to teach history that makes white people look bad.)



Wow, so you are saying the indigenous people of a land should not be allowed to vote in MEANINGFUL national elections because you've declared them "Non-Citizens".

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RACISTS DID IN SOUTH AFRICA UNDER APARTHEID!!!!

This is also what White Racists did in America for a century after the Civil War.

Now, I know the Squatters have a problem. They can't keep Apartheid up forever without drawing the condemnation of the world. At some point, Fundy Christians in America are going to figure out that Jesus isn't coming back after all, and there's no reason to support the Zionist Entity with American Blood and Treasure.

A two-state solution might be okay, if the Palestinians decide the Squatters can steal their land with impunity.



Uh, pointing out Hitler did bad stuff is hardly heroizing him. I just don't use Hitler as an excuse for what the Zionists are doing today.

Just like I don't cut a rapist any slack because he was sexually abused as a child.

Just because someone did bad stuff to you doesn't mean you get to do bad stuff to other people.

And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused

Roger Waters, Amused to Death.

The woke leftist entity suggesting so-called Pallys are “indigenous” is a profound bit of ignorance, or more likely, intentionally perpetuating a fraud.

Don’t be an accomplice to fraud.

I see you’re reduced to cutting and pasting the ramblings of an anti-Semite. Anything from Hitler you would care to cut and paste? Very concerning the heroes of the woke, leftist entity.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The woke leftist entity suggesting so-called Pallys are “indigenous” is a profound bit of ignorance, or more likely, intentionally perpetuating a fraud.

Don’t be an accomplice to fraud.

I see you’re reduced to cutting and pasting the ramblings of an anti-Semite. Anything from Hitler you would care to cut and paste? Very concerning the heroes of the woke, leftist entity.

Is he a leftist? Hard to tell when there are so many on the right who are Jew haters and anti Israel.

What actually matters is what he has been led to believe and how he lives by those beliefs 100%.