Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accep

Watch the video, it falls within itself:
So are you saying the picture I posted from Popular Mechanics is fake? The top portion didn't fall off to the side?

That's interesting because PopMech used that very picture in their "debunking" issue.

You guys who fail to believe your eyes are sad.

No, I am not saying your picture is fake, only incomplete. If you watch the video you see the same scene as in your picture. YOU made an assumption that the top fell to the side because of a picture. The video clearly shows it did not.
 
Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/international/30osamaCND.html
These sites know they can feed on the weak, and profit from it, and sit at home all day, getting paid for it, making up outlandish conspiracies. Sad thing is, so many fall for it.

May I ask, ( and truly I am interested in getting an answer )
what is it that convinces you that 19 suicidal fanatics hijacked
airliners and used said airliners as weapons?

Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11, November 2007



Published on May 18, 2014

On 29th November 2007, al Jazeera aired a portion of a tape where bin Laden said he was responsible for 9/11, and the Afghans knew nothing about it.

Bin Laden denies responsibility


FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
FBI says it has 8220 No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9 11 8221

FBI Poster - no mention of 9/11
FBI mdash USAMA BIN LADEN


OK, so far so groovie ...... There are multiple videos that allege to be Ben Laden claiming one thing or another and since it is obvious from the analysis of the various videos that there is more than one actor playing Ben Laden, I consider the whole lot to be completely useless.
Bottom line here, hard evidence trumps politics all day every day.

Yet you can not prove that 300 people existed and were killed on those 4 planes. You can not prove those 4 planes did not take off. You can not prove that eye witnesses dozens of them saw an airliner fly low towards the pentagon, you can not prove that witnesses in the hundreds did not see two planes slam into the twin towers, you can not prove that the plane that impacted in Pennsylvania did not exist. You can not explain the debris body parts DNA evidence that proves a plane hit the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania that were found.

All you have is your word that the Government fabricated 4 planes, we have phone records actual people and families to prove they existed. We have DNA and air craft debris to prove they existed.

In order for this to be a conspiracy the Government would have had to have almost 300 people they claimed were on the planes in on it, their families in on it, hundreds of investigators in 3 different locations in on it. Investigators from Local, County, State and federal Government in on it. The airlines and the airports those planes took off from would have to be in on it. The Secretary of the Treasury who lost his wife would have to be in on it.

Now explain how after 14 years with over a thousand people in on the great lie no one has come forward?
 
Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/international/30osamaCND.html
These sites know they can feed on the weak, and profit from it, and sit at home all day, getting paid for it, making up outlandish conspiracies. Sad thing is, so many fall for it.

May I ask, ( and truly I am interested in getting an answer )
what is it that convinces you that 19 suicidal fanatics hijacked
airliners and used said airliners as weapons?

Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11, November 2007



Published on May 18, 2014

On 29th November 2007, al Jazeera aired a portion of a tape where bin Laden said he was responsible for 9/11, and the Afghans knew nothing about it.

Bin Laden denies responsibility


FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
FBI says it has 8220 No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9 11 8221

FBI Poster - no mention of 9/11
FBI mdash USAMA BIN LADEN

Better than these, but no go.
Osama_faces_2.jpg

Bin_Laden_Fake.jpg
 
You really need to check your sources. The US never released the bin laden death photos.
Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/international/30osamaCND.html
These sites know they can feed on the weak, and profit from it, and sit at home all day, getting paid for it, making up outlandish conspiracies. Sad thing is, so many fall for it.

May I ask, ( and truly I am interested in getting an answer )
what is it that convinces you that 19 suicidal fanatics hijacked
airliners and used said airliners as weapons?

Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11, November 2007



Published on May 18, 2014

On 29th November 2007, al Jazeera aired a portion of a tape where bin Laden said he was responsible for 9/11, and the Afghans knew nothing about it.

Bin Laden denies responsibility


FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
FBI says it has 8220 No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9 11 8221

FBI Poster - no mention of 9/11
FBI mdash USAMA BIN LADEN

Better than these, but no go.
Osama_faces_2.jpg

Bin_Laden_Fake.jpg
 
You really need to check your sources. The US never released the bin laden death photos.
Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/international/30osamaCND.html
May I ask, ( and truly I am interested in getting an answer )
what is it that convinces you that 19 suicidal fanatics hijacked
airliners and used said airliners as weapons?

Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11, November 2007



Published on May 18, 2014

On 29th November 2007, al Jazeera aired a portion of a tape where bin Laden said he was responsible for 9/11, and the Afghans knew nothing about it.

Bin Laden denies responsibility


FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
FBI says it has 8220 No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9 11 8221

FBI Poster - no mention of 9/11
FBI mdash USAMA BIN LADEN

Better than these, but no go.
Osama_faces_2.jpg

Bin_Laden_Fake.jpg

I never said it did.
 
I assume that this has been posted before, did not see it if it was. What was the verdict? It would be nice if he said what we saw on the video was not what we saw and explain what it was we saw.

‘No Boeing 767 could attain a speed of 540 mph at 1000 feet above sea level ‘parasite drag doubles with velocity’ and ‘parasite power’ cubes with velocity.
  • The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.
  • The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed at over 500 mph. It would have crumpled.
  • No significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground.
Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept Statement As Truth THE INTERNET POST

Nice strawman. Assert an incorrect stat then rip it apart and seem to stupid people that you're right.

" The UA jet was clocked a 311mph, and the AA 757 at the Pentagon 345mph. "
"At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour."

Straight from the 9/11 Commission Report, first paragraph page 10.
Page 27 of the pdf
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

About 460 knots.
And still no facts presented. Where did the 4 aircraft go? Where are the passengers and crew? Exactly how does one recover debris from a disintegrated aircraft? Or from tens of tons of debris?

exactly what proof do you have that "FLT11" "FLT175" "FLT77" or "FLT93" existed at all? and as for accounting for the aircraft, physical matter isn't ever destroyed, it can be reduced to small bits, however it takes a LOT of energy to pulverized completely an entire Boeing 757. The question remains, exactly how much of any one of the 4 alleged hijacked airliners was accounted for?
I will believe the Government up until YOU provide facts disputing their claims. You have none, thanks for admitting it.

and so the fact of the video of the alleged "FLT175" looking more like B movie special effects than anything else, + the whole PENTAGON scene where the alleged airliner hit happened at such an angle that the starboard side wing tip would contact the Pentagon wall at about the same time as the nose of the alleged airliner and still people somehow buy that total fraud about the entire airliner entering the building?
This whole fiasco was an exercise in making 4 airliners disappear so as to hide the fact that the airliners never existed in the first place.

The mainstream media was the first to assert that airliners were used as weapons, however they have produced ZERO proof of that assertion.

What about radar tracking of the airplanes before the transponders were turned off? Was air traffic control in on the plot? Ground \crews that prepared the flight? The families of those alleged missing?
 
I assume that this has been posted before, did not see it if it was. What was the verdict? It would be nice if he said what we saw on the video was not what we saw and explain what it was we saw.

‘No Boeing 767 could attain a speed of 540 mph at 1000 feet above sea level ‘parasite drag doubles with velocity’ and ‘parasite power’ cubes with velocity.
  • The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.
  • The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed at over 500 mph. It would have crumpled.
  • No significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground.
Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept Statement As Truth THE INTERNET POST

Nice strawman. Assert an incorrect stat then rip it apart and seem to stupid people that you're right.

" The UA jet was clocked a 311mph, and the AA 757 at the Pentagon 345mph. "
"At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour."

Straight from the 9/11 Commission Report, first paragraph page 10.
Page 27 of the pdf
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Interesting that a cruise missile has a speed of about 550 MPH.

Of course, 42 EYEWITNESSES saw a plane slam into the Pentagon and ZERO saw a missile but let's not allow the facts to screw things up.
 
These sites know they can feed on the weak, and profit from it, and sit at home all day, getting paid for it, making up outlandish conspiracies. Sad thing is, so many fall for it.

May I ask, ( and truly I am interested in getting an answer )
what is it that convinces you that 19 suicidal fanatics hijacked
airliners and used said airliners as weapons?

Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11, November 2007



Published on May 18, 2014

On 29th November 2007, al Jazeera aired a portion of a tape where bin Laden said he was responsible for 9/11, and the Afghans knew nothing about it.

Bin Laden denies responsibility


FBI says, it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
FBI says it has 8220 No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9 11 8221

FBI Poster - no mention of 9/11
FBI mdash USAMA BIN LADEN


Al Qaeda chides Iran over 9/11 'conspiracy theories'
BBC News - Al Qaeda chides Iran over 9 11 conspiracy theories
 
" The UA jet was clocked a 311mph, and the AA 757 at the Pentagon 345mph. "

Source please .......

Once again our incessant board idiot requires sources of others while he himself posts all manner of CT BS for which he invariably fails to post any. How 'bout some sources for your "no planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled" claims? After all, they are the foundation of your 9/11 CT and once removed your whole house of cards falls.
 
"Do YOU have documentation of any scientific analysis of the video showing the alleged "FLT175" penetrating the wall, that shows the aircraft slowing down and indeed behaving like a real crash, rather than B movie special effects?"

In other words, you reject anything which does not conform with your version of 9/11 events (and I quote): "No planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled." As of this moment you have persistently failed to prove anything but that you are a raging idiot. Sorry.

So rather than actually present evidence, you choose to complain,
and do so badly because its not a matter of me rejecting anything, its a matter of how the supporters of the official story have failed to prove that there were indeed hijacked airliners used as weapons.

No, I said when you revealed your alternate 9/11 CT scenario you actually revealed an alternate universe where you require everyone who disagrees with your silliness to post proof (which you summarily dismiss) while posting absolutely none for your story:
"No planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled."
As of this moment you have persistently failed to prove anything but that you are a raging idiot. Sorry.
 
"Do YOU have documentation of any scientific analysis of the video showing the alleged "FLT175" penetrating the wall, that shows the aircraft slowing down and indeed behaving like a real crash, rather than B movie special effects?"

In other words, you reject anything which does not conform with your version of 9/11 events (and I quote): "No planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled." As of this moment you have persistently failed to prove anything but that you are a raging idiot. Sorry.

So rather than actually present evidence, you choose to complain,
and do so badly because its not a matter of me rejecting anything, its a matter of how the supporters of the official story have failed to prove that there were indeed hijacked airliners used as weapons.

Again you demand proof (which you reject, of course) but offer none in support of your claims ("No planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled").
Do you not see what a flaming loon you are? Do you not see why most rational peeps find you and the 9/11 CT Movement to be without a shred of credibility?

Exactly what proof has been presented that hijacked airliners were used as weapons? where is it?
You have provided absolutely no evidence proving YOUR claims. You are claiming the Government is wrong but have not provided a single fact to counter their statements and refuse to answer simple questions.
"Do YOU have documentation of any scientific analysis of the video showing the alleged "FLT175" penetrating the wall, that shows the aircraft slowing down and indeed behaving like a real crash, rather than B movie special effects?"

In other words, you reject anything which does not conform with your version of 9/11 events (and I quote): "No planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled." As of this moment you have persistently failed to prove anything but that you are a raging idiot. Sorry.

So rather than actually present evidence, you choose to complain,
and do so badly because its not a matter of me rejecting anything, its a matter of how the supporters of the official story have failed to prove that there were indeed hijacked airliners used as weapons.

Again you demand proof (which you reject, of course) but offer none in support of your claims ("No planes were hijacked on 9/11" and "the fires were staged and controlled").
Do you not see what a flaming loon you are? Do you not see why most rational peeps find you and the 9/11 CT Movement to be without a shred of credibility?

Exactly what proof has been presented that hijacked airliners were used as weapons? where is it?
Exactly what proof have you provided that what the Government said isn't true?

FACT, in the case of "ground zero" no flight data recorders were recovered for "FLT11" & "FLT175" the alleged airliners penetrated completely to the extent that there was no remnant of an aircraft to be seen in the hole in the side of the skyscraper. Where is the accounting for the airliner? in other airline disasters, the NTSB has all the bits laid out in a hanger and examined. Where is the accounting for any of the 4 aircraft allegedly hijacked and crashed on that day?
And still no facts presented. Where did the 4 aircraft go? Where are the passengers and crew? Exactly how does one recover debris from a disintegrated aircraft? Or from tens of tons of debris?

Upwards of 1 million tons of debris from WTC 1.
 
Z0, what we have here is a collection of excuses,
starting off with { Because I can not tell you ALL of the details about HOW it was done, therefore I must not have any INFORMATION of any value }
and including a politically motivated allegation that Tim Osman, Osama Ben Laden ( pick one ) confessed to the crime, however given the multiple different videos, with multiple different actors playing the lead character, how can anyone be certain that the "real" Osama made any one of the appearances?

One thing that I find rather shocking is the debate over there having been allegedly an airliner crashed into the PENTAGON, why is there any debate at all? NO commercial airliner crashed at the PENTAGON, it simply didn't happen like that, and I can say with absolute certainty that the official story constitutes fraud.

When you guys' theories are discredited right and left, it's like you all turn into the Black Knight.

"It's just a flesh wound."

 
Some of these kooks that worked in our government, is rather scary. Hopefully that is why he is ex, they saw him losing it and let him go- not that he was a kook while working for the govt.

You understand of course, there was a faction that attempted to get Major-General SMEDLEY BUTLER declared mentally incompetent
( in order to silence his anti-war logic & reason )

Did you know that in the old USSR, dissidents were routinely institutionalized as nut-cases in order to silence them?

Don't flatter yourself.

Gen. Butler accomplished something in his life.

What about you?
 
I assume that this has been posted before, did not see it if it was. What was the verdict? It would be nice if he said what we saw on the video was not what we saw and explain what it was we saw.

‘No Boeing 767 could attain a speed of 540 mph at 1000 feet above sea level ‘parasite drag doubles with velocity’ and ‘parasite power’ cubes with velocity.
  • The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.
  • The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed at over 500 mph. It would have crumpled.
  • No significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground.
Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept Statement As Truth THE INTERNET POST

Wow so there's no way for a 767 to takeoff or land.

Has anyone told Boeing about this design flaw?
The plane doesn't take off and land at 450 mph Frank. It takes off at roughly 120 mph. Plenty slow enough for the engines to perform at ground level.
 
"Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept"

Note post 115 in this thread, no rebuttal as yet, so by default the "debunker" faction has accepted the facts as they stand.

 
"Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept"

Note post 115 in this thread, no rebuttal as yet, so by default the "debunker" faction has accepted the facts as they stand.

I accept only that he may believe every word he said but what millions saw happen on 9/11 indeed happened and squirm all you like you can't change that.
 
"Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers US Will Have To Rebut Or Accept"

Note post 115 in this thread, no rebuttal as yet, so by default the "debunker" faction has accepted the facts as they stand.

Rebut that alien UFOs struck the WTC on 9/11, you can't do it.
 
Rebut that alien UFOs struck the WTC on 9/11, you can't do it.

You are right, I can't prove that a UFO didn't hit the tower(s) however, where is the PROOF that commercial airliners were used as weapons?

Eye witness accounts, videos, pictures, families of those who were killed, air traffic control radar, debris....need more?
 

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