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Debate? You actually think that the drivel in your OP is somehow open for debate?
It's senseless talking points of Rush, Sean and Savage all tied into one. One can't debate platitudes.
Why don't you try attaching some actual meat to your argument. Then perhaps we can engage in a discussion of the facts. As it stands, your OP is as meaningful as me stating that all conservatives suffer from a mental disorder.
I'll bite.
What major acconmplishments did Obama have before the senate?
Edwards?
Hillary?
Kerry?
Truth is...they may be talking points for Rush and Hannity...I wouldnt know...I dont listen to either....
But it happens to be something that I personally took note of.
Obama was a lecturer of Constitutional law, graduating from the most prestigious law school in the nation at the top of his class and editor of the Law Review.
Edwards was one of the most successful trial lawyers in the nation, starting from scratch and becoming a multimillionaire.
Hillary was the first female chair of Legal Services, the first female partner at Rose, and one of the 100 most influential lawyers. She also played a critical role in creating SCHIP.
Kerry has a bronze star, a silver star, three purple hearts. He was also the lt. Gov of Massachusetts.
OP:
1. The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life ...
* Okay what funny about this is the GOP alternative. I mean at least Obama didn't QUIT his job a couple years in! Boehner? Governement checks his whole life. Romney? Well he did do a very good job of uh, inheriting!
Comparing obama to RINOs is not a valid comaprison - they're frick and frack.
So who do you think is so different?
What percentage of democrat voters do you think live off the government? Be sure to include welfare clients, "affirmative action" freeloaders, union members who get a political, not economic, wage, legions of government worker drones, greedy oldsters, students with grants.
Ah, typical extremist view. You assume because I don't drink your brand of Kool-Aid, I must automatically be "the other side". Wrong.
I don't know and I don't care how many Dems live off the gov vs. how many Repubs.
Fine if you don't "want" to buy incandecent lights - they'll disappear in a year.
OMG! Oh the horror!
Why don't you just watch where the hell you're stepping? Do you step in dog shit all the time?
Now how can anyone argue with logic like that? Those damn toddlers can just bleed!
That marriage is a heterosexual institution only isn't a conservative invention - it goes back probably tens of thousands of years..
Just like Slavery!!!!
Your bs is SO easy to own. Who IS the super-Liberal president you're referring to?
OP:
1. The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life ...
* Okay what funny about this is the GOP alternative. I mean at least Obama didn't QUIT his job a couple years in! Boehner? Governement checks his whole life. Romney? Well he did do a very good job of uh, inheriting!
Comparing obama to RINOs is not a valid comaprison - they're frick and frack.
So who do you think is so different?
CON - SER - VA - TIVES.
Here, you say it: CON - SER - VA - TIVES.
You you can't name a candidate?
Thanks for the meaningless response - chickenshit.
No. It means that I'm an Independent. See unlike you, I think for myself. You should try it some time but I get it. You're a weak minded little coward whose afraid to think for yourself. Don't worry, about 60% or more of the country is like that.
But you can take comfort in knowing that you are no different whatsoever, than the person who gets all their thoughts from Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and Ed Whathisname.
OF COURSE you don't - you're a leftwinger. Tell me something I don't know.
Hmmm. Something you don't know. I don't think the internet could hold that much but we could start with an amazing revelation for you: Just because someone doesn't stare at the same spinning circle until they're in the same trance you're in, doesn't mean they're a "Left-winger". See I can prove I think for myself. You can't.
That's the obamabot kowtowing to authority - you just don't give a shit if the government runs your life down to the fine details - you're born puppets.
LOL! Nah, that just you being a puppet of the RW Pundits who tell you what to think. If tomorrow, they simply didn't sell incadesent lights anymore - without your masters telling you this symbolized "opression", you wouldn't notice. You'd just say "Hmmm. There's a new kind of light." But you're such a mindless drone, your masters have you convinced this is some kind of national emergency and now you're wetting your little panties and going into hysterics! OMG Incandesent lights!!! LOL Yeah okay.
Why don't you watch your own damn toddlers? Or is that another thing the government is supposed to do for you? Oh wait, it is - feminists who haven't aborted their children want the government to take care of them for free while they work their "affirmative action" job.
Just more proof all your thoughts are fed into you. You're funny.
That marriage is a heterosexual institution only isn't a conservative invention - it goes back probably tens of thousands of years..
Just like Slavery!!!!
Riiiiight, marriage is like slavery. Half-assed, ABSURD analogies - that's what passes for obamabot "logic".
Well I get it. You're afraid if it's legal, churches will burst into flames! No wait! I get it! If same sex marriage is legal, you'll turn gay. I knew it! You have um, curiosity, do you? IT's okay. I'm ot gonna judge you for your gayness. I really just don't care.
Your bs is SO easy to own. Who IS the super-Liberal president you're referring to?
This clown has disconnected from reality - I rest my case.
See, whackjobs like you are easy to rattle.
I can tell you ALL of your opinions on every issue. I can tell you what you think about Obama's speech tonight, what you think about gun control,, abortion, taxes, health care, nuclear power, the EPA, seperation of church and state, Obama's bailouts of the banks and car companies, our involvement in Libya, unions, the debt ceiling and so on.
I can tell you ALL of your opinions on every issue. I can tell you what you think about Obama's speech tonight, what you think about gun control,, abortion, taxes, health care, nuclear power, the EPA, seperation of church and state, Obama's bailouts of the banks and car companies, our involvement in Libya, unions, the debt ceiling and so on.
PATRICK2: Bullshit - you wouldn't get a single one right.
You're a koolaid kadet, an unschooled uninformed mindless bot in obama's robot army. If you are a typical bot, you don't a single thing about economics or history. You're just a hypnotized lemming, drawn along the road to your own destruction by your Great Leader, the community organizer from chicago.
LOL - this shows what a clueless moron you are. So fine. let's play. This would be where you answer directly, dodge or Cut & Run. Kinda predictible. Just tell me which ones I get wrong and then you can try! Or Cut & Run.
1. You thought Obama was full of it tonight.
2. You are all for the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership.
3. You're anti-abortion.
4. You're against raising taxes as proposed by Obama.
5. You think ObamaCare sucks and should be repealed.
6. You think nuclear power is fine.
7. You think the EPA goes overbaord and is wasteful
8. You don't believe there is anything that specifies a seperation of church & state in the USC.
9. You think Obama's Bailouts were terrible.
10. You think our current involvement in Libya violates the USC
11. YOu think unions hurt the economy and business
12. You think the Debt ceiling should be addressed through cutting expenses, not a combination of cutting and increased taxes.
13. You think Obama sucks.
LOL - That was SO easy! Like I said, mindless drone. No one needs to read what you're going to write, we already know it. I'm sure in your past threads is proof of all of the above. You're mindless.
Bu hey, you claim to know me so well, go ahead, let's see how you do.
Time to dodge, change the subject or Cut & Run drone.
Always easy to spot the extremists who can't think for themselves! What did I tell ya Patrick2? Did I tell you that you might as well not even write your am radio / FOX talking points because we already KNOW all your opinions. They have been fed to you by your masters and you couldn't come up with an original thought if you were paid to.
Then of course, I was able to accurately predict everything you would do next:
1. Dodge. Hmmm. Yes it seems you've addressed other posts and posters after getting biitch-slapped on your little challenge about "BS - you wouldn't get one right!". It's okay Patrick, it was expected of you and prdicted by me.
2. Change the subject. Obviously I got more than 1 right. More than 10 out of 12 right? 11+
3. Cut & Run.... which you obviously have from this post. You simply don't know what to say when spanked by those who are able to think for themselves. I guess that first reply about only being able to regurgitate the talking points of am radio, was right. You should have just not disputed it. And when I pointed out that maybe you just happen to agree with those guys, you definitely should have known better to jump in the face of a better informed, better thinking, superior debater. You're just not equipped for sweetheart. Stay with the easy stuff.
So now that you have been properly spanked, you just run along back to Rush and those who tell you what to think, while the grownups talk.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
Exactly what contributions did George W. Bush heap onto society?
Go on chief..feel free.
In that case..how about Donald Trump?
Ronald Reagan?
Actually..name someone.
GWB was a buisness owner....understood economics beyond just theory.
Same with Trump
Reagan....well....GWB was a business owner...understood economics beyond just theory.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution to not only take away a woman's right to have an abortion, but also to take away the states' rights to allow a woman to have an abortion.
Many on the right believe abortion is murder. Whether it is or isnt is the real debate.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution not only to ban same sex marriage, but also to take away the states' rights to allow same sex marriage.
Some on the right believe marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. Right or wrong with that definition is the real debate.
The Right wants to ban gays from the military.
Many on the right recognized the err of this and have since opened their minds to it. Thus way debate without spin is necessary.
The Right used the power of big government to send 4000 Americans off to die needlessly in Iraq.
Democrats also voted for the war as the intel gave us reason to feel the need to.
The Right not only zealously supports the single biggest big central government institution in this country, the military, but they want to make it bigger and bigger and bigger.
Many on the right beleive one of the most important things government can do for the country is to defend it. We are in a world where there are tyrants and others that like power that have no concern about hitting our homeland. With nuclear technology running rampant, we feel the need to bhe prepared.
The Right's positions on American business is to do everything they can to concentrate more and more power in the hands of big corporations.
The right believes in capitalism and believe that without big corporations, there would be lower empoloyment, higher prices to the consumer and the need to import more at the cost of the consumer.
The Right LOVES to use the power of big government to weaken the rights, privileges, and powers of labor unions.
The right has found that unions are no longer protecting the rightsd of the emplyee...but instead interested in using the strength of numbers to force companies to work outside their operating costs...and it has proven to cause companies to struggle
The Right has used the power of big government to borrow and spend us into near bankruptcy.
Seems to the open minded that this is not just an issue with the right. Americans of ALL ideologies love "stuff" and they love it when they get it for free.
And Ronald Reagan was a bad actor and a failed governor, and the Right elected him twice.
Your opinion of his acting ability noted...and irrelevant. His success or failure as a governor is a matter of opiniuon...and it seems many believed he did a great job.
In fact every Republican president, or candidate, since Reagan has been essentially a career politician, or government employee (with the exception of Bush Jr.'s failed tenure as an oilman, lol).
That is strictly the opinion of a partisan hack such as yourself.
What was your point again??
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution to not only take away a woman's right to have an abortion, but also to take away the states' rights to allow a woman to have an abortion.
Many on the right believe abortion is murder. Whether it is or isnt is the real debate.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution not only to ban same sex marriage, but also to take away the states' rights to allow same sex marriage.
Some on the right believe marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. Right or wrong with that definition is the real debate.
The Right wants to ban gays from the military.
Many on the right recognized the err of this and have since opened their minds to it. Thus way debate without spin is necessary.
The Right used the power of big government to send 4000 Americans off to die needlessly in Iraq.
Democrats also voted for the war as the intel gave us reason to feel the need to.
The Right not only zealously supports the single biggest big central government institution in this country, the military, but they want to make it bigger and bigger and bigger.
Many on the right beleive one of the most important things government can do for the country is to defend it. We are in a world where there are tyrants and others that like power that have no concern about hitting our homeland. With nuclear technology running rampant, we feel the need to bhe prepared.
The Right's positions on American business is to do everything they can to concentrate more and more power in the hands of big corporations.
The right believes in capitalism and believe that without big corporations, there would be lower empoloyment, higher prices to the consumer and the need to import more at the cost of the consumer.
The Right LOVES to use the power of big government to weaken the rights, privileges, and powers of labor unions.
The right has found that unions are no longer protecting the rightsd of the emplyee...but instead interested in using the strength of numbers to force companies to work outside their operating costs...and it has proven to cause companies to struggle
The Right has used the power of big government to borrow and spend us into near bankruptcy.
Seems to the open minded that this is not just an issue with the right. Americans of ALL ideologies love "stuff" and they love it when they get it for free.
And Ronald Reagan was a bad actor and a failed governor, and the Right elected him twice.
Your opinion of his acting ability noted...and irrelevant. His success or failure as a governor is a matter of opiniuon...and it seems many believed he did a great job.
In fact every Republican president, or candidate, since Reagan has been essentially a career politician, or government employee (with the exception of Bush Jr.'s failed tenure as an oilman, lol).
That is strictly the opinion of a partisan hack such as yourself.
What was your point again??
Hope you dont mind...but I revised your points (in red) but without the partisan spin you tend to toss is.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution to not only take away a woman's right to have an abortion, but also to take away the states' rights to allow a woman to have an abortion.
Many on the right believe abortion is murder. Whether it is or isnt is the real debate.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution not only to ban same sex marriage, but also to take away the states' rights to allow same sex marriage.
Some on the right believe marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. Right or wrong with that definition is the real debate.
The Right wants to ban gays from the military.
Many on the right recognized the err of this and have since opened their minds to it. Thus way debate without spin is necessary.
The Right used the power of big government to send 4000 Americans off to die needlessly in Iraq.
Democrats also voted for the war as the intel gave us reason to feel the need to.
The Right not only zealously supports the single biggest big central government institution in this country, the military, but they want to make it bigger and bigger and bigger.
Many on the right beleive one of the most important things government can do for the country is to defend it. We are in a world where there are tyrants and others that like power that have no concern about hitting our homeland. With nuclear technology running rampant, we feel the need to bhe prepared.
The Right's positions on American business is to do everything they can to concentrate more and more power in the hands of big corporations.
The right believes in capitalism and believe that without big corporations, there would be lower empoloyment, higher prices to the consumer and the need to import more at the cost of the consumer.
The Right LOVES to use the power of big government to weaken the rights, privileges, and powers of labor unions.
The right has found that unions are no longer protecting the rightsd of the emplyee...but instead interested in using the strength of numbers to force companies to work outside their operating costs...and it has proven to cause companies to struggle
The Right has used the power of big government to borrow and spend us into near bankruptcy.
Seems to the open minded that this is not just an issue with the right. Americans of ALL ideologies love "stuff" and they love it when they get it for free.
And Ronald Reagan was a bad actor and a failed governor, and the Right elected him twice.
Your opinion of his acting ability noted...and irrelevant. His success or failure as a governor is a matter of opiniuon...and it seems many believed he did a great job.
In fact every Republican president, or candidate, since Reagan has been essentially a career politician, or government employee (with the exception of Bush Jr.'s failed tenure as an oilman, lol).
That is strictly the opinion of a partisan hack such as yourself.
What was your point again??
Hope you dont mind...but I revised your points (in red) but without the partisan spin you tend to toss is.
If you have a problem with what you characterize as 'partisan spin',
why did you attack my points and not the OP's.
It appears you don't have a problem with applying a partisan spin to your problem with partisan spin.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
When the right quit voting in batshit crazy people like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin, talk to us.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution to not only take away a woman's right to have an abortion, but also to take away the states' rights to allow a woman to have an abortion.
The Right wants to amend the Constitution not only to ban same sex marriage, but also to take away the states' rights to allow same sex marriage.
The Right wants to ban gays from the military.
The Right used the power of big government to send 4000 Americans off to die needlessly in Iraq.
The Right not only zealously supports the single biggest big central government institution in this country, the military, but they want to make it bigger and bigger and bigger.
The Right's positions on American business is to do everything they can to concentrate more and more power in the hands of big corporations.
The Right LOVES to use the power of big government to weaken the rights, privileges, and powers of labor unions.
The Right has used the power of big government to borrow and spend us into near bankruptcy.
And Ronald Reagan was a bad actor and a failed governor, and the Right elected him twice.
What was your point again??
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
When the right quit voting in batshit crazy people like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin, talk to us.
When the left quits voting in quasi marxist incompetent unqualified pretentious ASS HOLES like obama, talk to us.
I'll bite.
What major acconmplishments did Obama have before the senate?
Edwards?
Hillary?
Kerry?
Truth is...they may be talking points for Rush and Hannity...I wouldnt know...I dont listen to either....
But it happens to be something that I personally took note of.
Obama was a lecturer of Constitutional law, graduating from the most prestigious law school in the nation at the top of his class and editor of the Law Review.
Edwards was one of the most successful trial lawyers in the nation, starting from scratch and becoming a multimillionaire.
Hillary was the first female chair of Legal Services, the first female partner at Rose, and one of the 100 most influential lawyers. She also played a critical role in creating SCHIP.
Kerry has a bronze star, a silver star, three purple hearts. He was also the lt. Gov of Massachusetts.
That's nothing. Bush was a drunk.
Mitt bankrupted half a dozen companies. Threw thousands out of work and made hundreds of millions.
John McCain graduated 5th from the bottom out of 899 and married the richest woman in Arizona.
Take a good long list of Republican leaders so called "accomplishments". Hilarious. Who votes for these people?
Oops.
OP:
1. The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life ...
* Okay what funny about this is the GOP alternative. I mean at least Obama didn't QUIT his job a couple years in! Boehner? Governement checks his whole life. Romney? Well he did do a very good job of uh, inheriting!
Comparing obama to RINOs is not a valid comaprison - they're frick and frack.
So who do you think is so different?
CON - SER - VA - TIVES.
Here, you say it: CON - SER - VA - TIVES.
Thanks for the meaningless response - chickenshit.
OF COURSE you don't - you're a leftwinger. Tell me something I don't know.
That's the obamabot kowtowing to authority - you just don't give a shit if the government runs your life down to the fine details - you're born puppets.
Why don't you watch your own damn toddlers? Or is that another thing the government is supposed to do for you? Oh wait, it is - feminists who haven't aborted their children want the government to take care of them for free while they work their "affirmative action" job.
That marriage is a heterosexual institution only isn't a conservative invention - it goes back probably tens of thousands of years..
Just like Slavery!!!!
Riiiiight, marriage is like slavery. Half-assed, ABSURD analogies - that's what passes for obamabot "logic".
Your bs is SO easy to own. Who IS the super-Liberal president you're referring to?
This clown has disconnected from reality - I rest my case.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
Exactly what contributions did George W. Bush heap onto society?
Go on chief..feel free.
In that case..how about Donald Trump?
Ronald Reagan?
Actually..name someone.
The leaders, the obamas and Hillarys and John Edwardses, are usually people with no real accomplishment in life who are also control freaks and want to run the lives of people who DO contribute to society down to the smallest detail, like what light bulbs they buy. Their followers are usually dupes whose intellect starts and ends with absorbing whatever slogans are given them, which is enough to get them to join the march of the lemmings. In the case of obama, it's worse - more like a religious cult.
The liberal leader/dupe relationship is sort of sado-masochistic - one wants to use big government to control as much as possible about people's lives, and the other wants to be controlled by limitless big government.
Exactly what contributions did George W. Bush heap onto society?
Go on chief..feel free.
In that case..how about Donald Trump?
Ronald Reagan?
Actually..name someone.
GWB gave Iraqs women and children a chance at true freedom and prosperity
Donald Trump has created untold numbers of jobs
Ronald Reagan broke the back of the communist party in the USSR
Tell me again what big O ever did for society...
