Espn commentator says jerry Jones is acting like a slave owner

[miketx]

Your employer has every right to expect certain behavior from an employee. If that employee refuses they can be fired. You being racist it's clear that YOU are the one that has no understanding of rights. Now you go ahead and spew your racist bullshit, as you are an example of how the left is destroying freedom. You define rights as what ever you want them to mean..

I understand that it upsets you to see Black players exercising their First Amendment Rights in a manner YOU PERSONALLY don't approve of...lol.
Guess what...you don't have to approve of their manner of exercise, you don't get to choose for them, they don't have to agree with your "opinion."
You are an example of what happens when the populace is too stupid to understand the Constitution...
You are an example of how Nazism and dictators get a foothold in destroying Democracy...
Go give a Nazi Salute to the mirror, you need practice for the time when we live in the type of country you advocate for...

No you don't understand. You make everything about race because you are too stupid to know better. Screw the black players. Why not just call them the players? Or is it because the black players are mostly the only ones doing this crap? You see, the players have every right to disrespect America and it's veterans while on the field if it's ok with their employers. You know, employees are expected to obey certain rules while at work. Now if they want to do it in their off time, the employers have nothing to say about it as long as they aren't wearing a team uniform drawing attention the the owners. And then the people who see this disrespect for what it is have every right to boycott them and cost them a fortune like we are doing! So if you can't understand that I have every right you protest a protest, maybe you're too stupid to be in this discussion, because it's a two way street. And that just eats the left wing bed wetters asses alive!

Well Mr. couch potato warrior you dispelled any confusion as to your stupidity when you ignorantly stated that the Black Players are disrespecting veterans and America...LOL.
Shut your stupid ass up until you at least know why the players are rightfully kneeling.
Nobody is costing the players a fortune, they are getting paid as usual; which burns fake pussy patriots like you to no end.
These players aren't your house Negroes and they don't have to tap dance to your tune or at your time...

LOL! The players are costing the owners a fortune, and they are disrespecting The country and it's service men and women, and we put a stop to it. Take 'em all back to Africa if you don't like it.

The players are getting their paychecks and exercising their First Amendment Right...they don't care about your faux indignation.
If you don't like it go back to Europe ...

No, I don't like it, and I and millions of others are exercising our first amendment rights by boycotting their sorry asses and costing the owners a fortune! HA! The little millionaire crybabies are finding out what happens when you are stupid enough to insult your fan base.

 

[reconmark]

I understand that it upsets you to see Black players exercising their First Amendment Rights in a manner YOU PERSONALLY don't approve of...lol.
Guess what...you don't have to approve of their manner of exercise, you don't get to choose for them, they don't have to agree with your "opinion."
You are an example of what happens when the populace is too stupid to understand the Constitution...
You are an example of how Nazism and dictators get a foothold in destroying Democracy...
Go give a Nazi Salute to the mirror, you need practice for the time when we live in the type of country you advocate for...

No you don't understand. You make everything about race because you are too stupid to know better. Screw the black players. Why not just call them the players? Or is it because the black players are mostly the only ones doing this crap? You see, the players have every right to disrespect America and it's veterans while on the field if it's ok with their employers. You know, employees are expected to obey certain rules while at work. Now if they want to do it in their off time, the employers have nothing to say about it as long as they aren't wearing a team uniform drawing attention the the owners. And then the people who see this disrespect for what it is have every right to boycott them and cost them a fortune like we are doing! So if you can't understand that I have every right you protest a protest, maybe you're too stupid to be in this discussion, because it's a two way street. And that just eats the left wing bed wetters asses alive!

Well Mr. couch potato warrior you dispelled any confusion as to your stupidity when you ignorantly stated that the Black Players are disrespecting veterans and America...LOL.
Shut your stupid ass up until you at least know why the players are rightfully kneeling.
Nobody is costing the players a fortune, they are getting paid as usual; which burns fake pussy patriots like you to no end.
These players aren't your house Negroes and they don't have to tap dance to your tune or at your time...

LOL! The players are costing the owners a fortune, and they are disrespecting The country and it's service men and women, and we put a stop to it. Take 'em all back to Africa if you don't like it.

The players are getting their paychecks and exercising their First Amendment Right...they don't care about your faux indignation.
If you don't like it go back to Europe ...

No, I don't like it, and I and millions of others are exercising our first amendment rights by boycotting their sorry asses and costing the owners a fortune! HA! The little millionaire crybabies are finding out what happens when you are stupid enough to insult your fan base.

"millions of others"...lol, learn to count or stop lying.
The Millionaire NFL players are finding out who the fans are that are also very stupid and prejudiced.

 

[harmonica]

Your employer has every right to expect certain behavior from an employee. If that employee refuses they can be fired. You being racist it's clear that YOU are the one that has no understanding of rights. Now you go ahead and spew your racist bullshit, as you are an example of how the left is destroying freedom. You define rights as what ever you want them to mean..

I understand that it upsets you to see Black players exercising their First Amendment Rights in a manner YOU PERSONALLY don't approve of...lol.
Guess what...you don't have to approve of their manner of exercise, you don't get to choose for them, they don't have to agree with your "opinion."
You are an example of what happens when the populace is too stupid to understand the Constitution...
You are an example of how Nazism and dictators get a foothold in destroying Democracy...
Go give a Nazi Salute to the mirror, you need practice for the time when we live in the type of country you advocate for...

No you don't understand. You make everything about race because you are too stupid to know better. Screw the black players. Why not just call them the players? Or is it because the black players are mostly the only ones doing this crap? You see, the players have every right to disrespect America and it's veterans while on the field if it's ok with their employers. You know, employees are expected to obey certain rules while at work. Now if they want to do it in their off time, the employers have nothing to say about it as long as they aren't wearing a team uniform drawing attention the the owners. And then the people who see this disrespect for what it is have every right to boycott them and cost them a fortune like we are doing! So if you can't understand that I have every right you protest a protest, maybe you're too stupid to be in this discussion, because it's a two way street. And that just eats the left wing bed wetters asses alive!

Well Mr. couch potato warrior you dispelled any confusion as to your stupidity when you ignorantly stated that the Black Players are disrespecting veterans and America...LOL.
Shut your stupid ass up until you at least know why the players are rightfully kneeling.
Nobody is costing the players a fortune, they are getting paid as usual; which burns fake pussy patriots like you to no end.
These players aren't your house Negroes and they don't have to tap dance to your tune or at your time...

the protests were for criminals--some LIFE-long criminals--some were attacking the cops..ALL were resisting/danger to the cops
the players are protesting FOR criminals/criminality
why do the blacks LOVE criminals so much? I feel good when a criminal of any color is dead

Why do some whites love lies and so stupidly accept them as fact???...so now we have trump lies about the flags and soldiers and then your bullshit that it's all about criminals...lol.
The only people that believe such ignorance are the ignorant.

why are they protesting for?:
MBrown
FGray
KScott
ASterling
EGarner
ASMith
ALL CRIMINALS--the protests were for these CRIMINALS

 

[miketx]

No you don't understand. You make everything about race because you are too stupid to know better. Screw the black players. Why not just call them the players? Or is it because the black players are mostly the only ones doing this crap? You see, the players have every right to disrespect America and it's veterans while on the field if it's ok with their employers. You know, employees are expected to obey certain rules while at work. Now if they want to do it in their off time, the employers have nothing to say about it as long as they aren't wearing a team uniform drawing attention the the owners. And then the people who see this disrespect for what it is have every right to boycott them and cost them a fortune like we are doing! So if you can't understand that I have every right you protest a protest, maybe you're too stupid to be in this discussion, because it's a two way street. And that just eats the left wing bed wetters asses alive!

Well Mr. couch potato warrior you dispelled any confusion as to your stupidity when you ignorantly stated that the Black Players are disrespecting veterans and America...LOL.
Shut your stupid ass up until you at least know why the players are rightfully kneeling.
Nobody is costing the players a fortune, they are getting paid as usual; which burns fake pussy patriots like you to no end.
These players aren't your house Negroes and they don't have to tap dance to your tune or at your time...

LOL! The players are costing the owners a fortune, and they are disrespecting The country and it's service men and women, and we put a stop to it. Take 'em all back to Africa if you don't like it.

The players are getting their paychecks and exercising their First Amendment Right...they don't care about your faux indignation.
If you don't like it go back to Europe ...

No, I don't like it, and I and millions of others are exercising our first amendment rights by boycotting their sorry asses and costing the owners a fortune! HA! The little millionaire crybabies are finding out what happens when you are stupid enough to insult your fan base.

"millions of others"...lol, learn to count or stop lying.
The Millionaire NFL players are finding out who the fans are that are also very stupid and prejudiced.

Anybody that disrespects the men and women in the military or those who died serving are scum. Welcome to that club, race baiter.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Tutorial for ignorant white conservative people that are too stupid to understand the First Amendment...

When the National Anthem is played you have a First Amendment Right to stand in recognition of the flag and/or anthem.

No one has the right to demand that you kneel or remain seated, this would be a violation of your free exercise of your First Amendment Right.
No one has a Right to demand that others stand for the flag or anthem, it is an American's First Amendment Right to remain seated, take a knee or stick their fingers in their ears, it's their Right.

Wrong. If that Anthem is being played as part of an NFL football game and you are employed by the NFL, you are bound by the contract you signed with the team and the NFL. If you disobey the rules you can be fired. You don't have to stand for the anthem, but you can be escorted from the stadium if you don't. If you are hired on by a company that makes you sign a document that says every morning you will say the pledge and you try to invoke your 1st amendment right to not say the pledge, you can be immediately fired. You can't say its a free speech violation, you gave up that free speech when you signed that employment contract. While working for your employer, you are bound by the employers rules. Don't like it, leave.

All the rules change when you're on the payroll of someone.

Wrong...please post one link where an NFL Player's contract states that he MUST stand for the anthem...post one link where the NFL Association mandates players MUST stand for the anthem.
Don't waste my time because you can't.
Again...if you choose to be offended by someone else's free expression of the First Amend, you are part of the problem.
We don't protest with your permission and your blessing of time and place.

I didn't say you must stand for the anthem. In fact, in my quote that you quoted in your reply, I stated "they don't have to stand for the anthem." Can you read? I highlighted it to show how stupid you are. I said you must abide by the conditions of the contract and the game manual says that players should stand and failing to stand could result in suspensions or fines.

This would be nothing more than the NFL actually enforcing its own rules. No different than a speed limit not being enforced by the cops and one day they decide to enforce it. Just because it wasn't enforced for a long time doesn't make it any less a rule.

 

[reconmark]

Tutorial for ignorant white conservative people that are too stupid to understand the First Amendment...

When the National Anthem is played you have a First Amendment Right to stand in recognition of the flag and/or anthem.

No one has the right to demand that you kneel or remain seated, this would be a violation of your free exercise of your First Amendment Right.
No one has a Right to demand that others stand for the flag or anthem, it is an American's First Amendment Right to remain seated, take a knee or stick their fingers in their ears, it's their Right.

Wrong. If that Anthem is being played as part of an NFL football game and you are employed by the NFL, you are bound by the contract you signed with the team and the NFL. If you disobey the rules you can be fired. You don't have to stand for the anthem, but you can be escorted from the stadium if you don't. If you are hired on by a company that makes you sign a document that says every morning you will say the pledge and you try to invoke your 1st amendment right to not say the pledge, you can be immediately fired. You can't say its a free speech violation, you gave up that free speech when you signed that employment contract. While working for your employer, you are bound by the employers rules. Don't like it, leave.

All the rules change when you're on the payroll of someone.

Wrong...please post one link where an NFL Player's contract states that he MUST stand for the anthem...post one link where the NFL Association mandates players MUST stand for the anthem.
Don't waste my time because you can't.
Again...if you choose to be offended by someone else's free expression of the First Amend, you are part of the problem.
We don't protest with your permission and your blessing of time and place.

I didn't say you must stand for the anthem. In fact, in my quote that you quoted in your reply, I stated "they don't have to stand for the anthem." Can you read? I highlighted it to show how stupid you are. I said you must abide by the conditions of the contract and the game manual says that players should stand and failing to stand could result in suspensions or fines.

This would be nothing more than the NFL actually enforcing its own rules. No different than a speed limit not being enforced by the cops and one day they decide to enforce it. Just because it wasn't enforced for a long time doesn't make it any less a rule.

Actually you are the stupid one...how stupid you ask???...I'll be glad to show you, dumbass.

. You don't have to stand for the anthem, but you can be escorted from the stadium if you don't.

Please post a link from the NFL manual that states players can be escorted from the stadium for not standing...lol.
Too further compound your stupidity, you stated that players would be punished for not standing, so by logical conclusion players MUST stand in order to not be escorted from the stadium as you ignorantly stated.

Your second stupid statement was that player's contract demanded that they stand...yeah I know, no link.

Again,
We don't protest with your permission and your blessing of time and place.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Please post a link from the NFL manual that states players can be escorted from the stadium for not standing...lol.

That was already done. If you are suspended from a game, you are not allowed at that game. Thus you can be escorted away from it. But since you're so stupid, I'll do it again.

Are NFL Players Required to Stand During the National Anthem? What the League’s Rulebook Says

“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition.

It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

If you are suspended from a game, you are not allowed at the game, thus you would be escorted off of the field.

Game. Set. Match.

 

[reconmark]

Please post a link from the NFL manual that states players can be escorted from the stadium for not standing...lol.

That was already done. If you are suspended from a game, you are not allowed at that game. Thus you can be escorted away from it. But since you're so stupid, I'll do it again.

Are NFL Players Required to Stand During the National Anthem? What the League’s Rulebook Says

“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition.

It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

If you are suspended from a game, you are not allowed at the game, thus you would be escorted off of the field.

Game. Set. Match.

Game, set and Match for obviously stupid people like you or people like you who tend to be easily transparent liars...lol.
From your link that shows you to be quite stupid:

“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking.

In case you are too stupid to know what "SHOULD" means, which you obviously are, let me give you the definition:
Should
Should is often used to give an opinion, to make a suggestion, express a preference or an idea.
You should stay at home if you are feeling tired.
I should walk to work.
He should be more open to ideas.

Should – to ask for an opinion.
Should we tell him about our idea?
What should we do now?

Now I have plainly and factually shown that no mandate exists that Players WILL or are MANDATED to stand for the Flag from YOUR SOURCE...
Next LIE from you will also be summarily shown to also be full of ignorance and bullshit...

 

[airplanemechanic]

It's a formal way of writing it. It's like saying what they need to do. It's directions.

If its only a suggestion how can it have fines and penalties associated with it? It's ok, they're fixing to correct the language and make it mandatory. Game over.

OOPS. Game. Set. Match.

 

[reconmark]

It's a formal way of writing it. It's like saying what they need to do. It's directions.

If its only a suggestion how can it have fines and penalties associated with it?

OOPS. Game. Set. Match.

Please post a link from the NFL manual that states players can be escorted from the stadium for not standing...lol.

You said you posted a link to support that assertion...I just proved you totally wrong as there is no MANDATE or INSTRUCTION where players are MANDATED to stand.

I destroyed your foolishness completely and you are still too stupid to get it???...lol.

HEY DUMBASS THERE IS NO NFL HANDBOOK MANDATE FOR PLAYERS TO STAND!!!...YEAH, OOPS, YOU HAVE BEEN MADE THE FOOL AGAIN....

 

[reconmark]

In case you are too stupid to know what "SHOULD" means, which you obviously are, let me give you the definition:
Should
Should is often used to give an opinion, to make a suggestion, express a preference or an idea.
You should stay at home if you are feeling tired.
I should walk to work.
He should be more open to ideas.

Should – to ask for an opinion.
Should we tell him about our idea?
What should we do now?

The torpedo in your stupid ship of lies....

 

[airplanemechanic]

Yes there is. I just showed it to you, that you choose to ignore it doesn't reflect upon me......

And why does it mention FINES AND PENALTIES if its only a suggestion? You can't fine someone for a suggestion they don't follow, dumbass.

 

[reconmark]

Yes there is. I just showed it to you, that you choose to ignore it doesn't reflect upon me......

You are like trump...the only guy in the room that doesn't get it...lol.

 

[reconmark]

Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”

You can be fined for not being on the field by the start of the anthem, it mentions nothing of being fined for kneeling...you dumb lying sack of shit...

You just got BITCH SLAPPED!!!!

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Wilbon is a good sports commentator.

In this case, he is dead wrong.

Jones is the boss: his way or it's the highway.

I agree with you. It’s a simple concept to understand - Jones is the boss. Players have to do what he tells them to do even if they don’t like it........or quit. The problem is idiots like willbon and jemmel Hill think they should be free to say whatever they want to say with no consequences. Well the real world doesn’t work that way. Oh and you’re not social commentators or political pundits. You get paid to talk about trivial shit you dumb sobs. Nobody cares what you think.

Spot on. I will add- Jones is running a business that is very sensitive to the customer/fan perception. If players kneeling during the anthem hurts his brand, he is well within his rights to keep that player from hurting his brand. I believe the league has a policy by which they can suspend or fine players for conduct detrimental to the sport. Given the boos from stands in the stadiums, I’d say kneeling is detrimental to the sport. Players are not slaves, they are not forced to play, it is a privilege that most would love to have.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Tutorial for ignorant white conservative people that are too stupid to understand the First Amendment...

When the National Anthem is played you have a First Amendment Right to stand in recognition of the flag and/or anthem.

No one has the right to demand that you kneel or remain seated, this would be a violation of your free exercise of your First Amendment Right.
No one has a Right to demand that others stand for the flag or anthem, it is an American's First Amendment Right to remain seated, take a knee or stick their fingers in their ears, it's their Right.

The power of the First Amendment is that it protects free speech of all viewpoints. You don't have to approve of another's method of acknowledgement of the flag and they do not have to approve of yours.

You both have an equal Right to your personal manner of conduct.

Black Slaves were never afforded Civil Rights and now you have a white man attempting to tell Players that are majority Black that they have no right to exercise their First Amendment Rights prior to performing the duties they are paid to perform.
NFL Players aren't paid to be political props for the government.

For the most part, I’d say your rant was accurate yet incomplete. People do have the right to stand or sit or pick their nose if they choose during the anthem. However owners have rights too. Owners have the right to REQUIRE certain conduct from their employees. If a player elects to kneel, an owner can elect to fire or keep that player from dressing for a game. Owners have the right to protect their business interest. If players kneel during the anthem, and that has a negative impact on the owners business, he has the right to remedy the negative impact.

 

[reconmark]

Tutorial for ignorant white conservative people that are too stupid to understand the First Amendment...

When the National Anthem is played you have a First Amendment Right to stand in recognition of the flag and/or anthem.

No one has the right to demand that you kneel or remain seated, this would be a violation of your free exercise of your First Amendment Right.
No one has a Right to demand that others stand for the flag or anthem, it is an American's First Amendment Right to remain seated, take a knee or stick their fingers in their ears, it's their Right.

The power of the First Amendment is that it protects free speech of all viewpoints. You don't have to approve of another's method of acknowledgement of the flag and they do not have to approve of yours.

You both have an equal Right to your personal manner of conduct.

Black Slaves were never afforded Civil Rights and now you have a white man attempting to tell Players that are majority Black that they have no right to exercise their First Amendment Rights prior to performing the duties they are paid to perform.
NFL Players aren't paid to be political props for the government.

For the most part, I’d say your rant was accurate yet incomplete. People do have the right to stand or sit or pick their nose if they choose during the anthem. However owners have rights too. Owners have the right to REQUIRE certain conduct from their employees. If a player elects to kneel, an owner can elect to fire or keep that player from dressing for a game. Owners have the right to protect their business interest. If players kneel during the anthem, and that has a negative impact on the owners business, he has the right to remedy the negative impact.

Your response bears some semblance of accuracy, just a semblance...
As it stands now there is no clause in the League or Players contract that mandate that they stand.
A owner will be sued straight out of his pants if he tried that stunt.

 

[monkrules]

For the most part, I’d say your rant was accurate yet incomplete. People do have the right to stand or sit or pick their nose if they choose during the anthem. However owners have rights too. Owners have the right to REQUIRE certain conduct from their employees. If a player elects to kneel, an owner can elect to fire or keep that player from dressing for a game. Owners have the right to protect their business interest. If players kneel during the anthem, and that has a negative impact on the owners business, he has the right to remedy the negative impact.

You're correct.

The point is so simple that it's hard to believe the imbeciles who support kneeling are not able to comprehend it. The players are employees, that's all. They have to follow the rules of behavior set by their employers, period. Just like a Walmart employee or a garbage collector has rules they have to follow.

These fucking idiots are NOT being paid to voice their political views on the field. They're paid to behave like professionals and to play a child's game at a high level. That's it.

If they want to be political activists, fine, they have plenty of free time in which to do that.

Personally, I hope the teams start firing some of these drama queens. Let them stick their fucking fists up each others' ass.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jones will run right into the players' union if he gets heavy handed with his players. He and they will negotiate the proper response, and it appears they have done so.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Tutorial for ignorant white conservative people that are too stupid to understand the First Amendment...

When the National Anthem is played you have a First Amendment Right to stand in recognition of the flag and/or anthem.

No one has the right to demand that you kneel or remain seated, this would be a violation of your free exercise of your First Amendment Right.
No one has a Right to demand that others stand for the flag or anthem, it is an American's First Amendment Right to remain seated, take a knee or stick their fingers in their ears, it's their Right.

The power of the First Amendment is that it protects free speech of all viewpoints. You don't have to approve of another's method of acknowledgement of the flag and they do not have to approve of yours.

You both have an equal Right to your personal manner of conduct.

Black Slaves were never afforded Civil Rights and now you have a white man attempting to tell Players that are majority Black that they have no right to exercise their First Amendment Rights prior to performing the duties they are paid to perform.
NFL Players aren't paid to be political props for the government.

For the most part, I’d say your rant was accurate yet incomplete. People do have the right to stand or sit or pick their nose if they choose during the anthem. However owners have rights too. Owners have the right to REQUIRE certain conduct from their employees. If a player elects to kneel, an owner can elect to fire or keep that player from dressing for a game. Owners have the right to protect their business interest. If players kneel during the anthem, and that has a negative impact on the owners business, he has the right to remedy the negative impact.

Your response bears some semblance of accuracy, just a semblance...
As it stands now there is no clause in the League or Players contract that mandate that they stand.
A owner will be sued straight out of his pants if he tried that stunt.

Sure, he may be sued, but a decent attorney will know how to defend him. There is no need for a specific clause that players stand, but there are very likely clauses that insist on conduct that is consistent with what is good for the team, and if your home crowd boos you, well that isn’t good for your team. It’s a no brainer.