Enough B S! What is damaging in the speakers new bill?

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    No talking points. Keep it based in reality. Everyone on the left claims this bill will do great harm to our country. Put your money where your taking points are and point out the specifics of why this bill is bad for our nation.

    Keep in mind most Americans won't care who the author is if its a good bill. So to simply say "its not bipartisan" isn't relative.
     
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    The GOP put a contract out on Santa. It's all on teh White House site.
     
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    The rating agencies like S&P basically confirmed the GOPs game plan, at least $4-trillion in spending cuts. Then let ALL of the Bush Tax Cuts expire, and we're back on the track to fiscal sanity.

    The dems are simply wrong. The budget needs to be axed and axed hard. The governement needs to excise the freeloaders and get Medicare and SS back on track.

    Thank you Tea Party, now you need to end tax loop-holes, subsidies, foreign aid, and go after off-shore tax cheats. DON'T WHORE FOR THE HEDGE FUNDS!!!
     
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    pelosi-

    What we're trying to do is save the world from the Republican budget. We're trying to save life on this planet as we know it today."

    well looks like another rapture is on the way.....:lol:
     
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    There are no real cuts in the bill. It's from the CBO baseline. It's imaginary.

    The "Super Congress".

    It only leaves us with the issue of the debt ceiling having to be raised again possibly by around Christmas. What some people don't seem to understand is that the Debt Ceiling is related to obligations already incurred.

    The Government Accountability Office puts it nicely:

    U.S. GAO - Debt Limit: Delays Create Debt Management Challenges and Increase Uncertainty in the Treasury Market


     
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    The only one of the stuff you mentioned the Tea Party is going to really go with you on is foreign aid. A whopping less than 1% of federal spending.
     
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    I just don't get why the Tea Party is whoring for the Hedge funds and tax loop holes. They would increase their popularity a lot by going after them and the off-shore guys. They are stupid not to see the low hanging fruit...
     
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    I'm not sure why you put any faith in the "Tea Party". They sold out on the Patriot Act for the most part. On the debt ceiling they haven't offered up anything to compromise or made any inclination whatsoever. Even our Founding Fathers saw the need for compromise.

    When the GOP doesn't want to cut defense, subsidies, close tax loopholes, or raise taxes then they leave themselves not too many choices. Sure, they can cut NPR or Foreign Aid (which again makes up less than 1% of spending despite what many Republicans think) but there's only so much they can cut from there.

    A WSJ poll found in the past that Tea Partiers by a 2-1 margin also didn't want to see large cuts in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.

    Not sure how they see the deficit getting cut.
     
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    You mean the same debt limit that's been raised 22 of the last 30 times for an average of 7 months? But now its different because O who hates the idea to begin with wants it raised on his terms and to a date specified by him?
     
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    your opinion is noted.

    define- "large cuts".
     

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