English as the Official Language

[Unkotare]

Not really. It isn't possible to force people to speak English as it violates freedom of speech and expression.

Which is why this bill is meaningless racial shit-stirring uber-nationalistic nonsense.

Again, you obviously misunderstand what is meant by a 'national language.'

And you obviously misunderstand what is meant by an "official" language.

That is YOUR misunderstanding. It seems everyone else gets it but you.

 

[eflatminor]

How many Farsi speaking Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.

Oh, right, none.

Well, maybe...maybe not. There are an estimated 3700 Muslims living in Mexico, served by 8 mosques, all of which teach Arabic. Of course, Farsi is not the same language as Arabic but they do share a common script and Persian draws much of its everyday lexicon from Arabic.

In addition, Iran has an embassy in Mexico...I bet they speak Farsi. Further, Farsi is the official language of Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan. There are people of those backgrounds living in Mexico as citizens.

So, while I can't say for sure that there are Farsi speakers living in Mexico, it seems possible there are. How are you able to state with 100% accuracy "Oh, right, none"?

Link, proof, anything?

Oh, my! 3700 of them! Then I was wrong, a fine analogy after all. We should model ourselves on Mexico, one of the most successful nations in the world.

Callate el osico gordota.

I, for one, do not believe we should model ourselves on Mexico...but then, nobody was suggesting that. Either your statement that nobody in Mexico speaks Farsi was correct or it was not. Given the massive deflection in your response, I'm guessing you can't back up your claim. That's fine, I'm just calling bullshit when I see it. Best of luck with that.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

When can we make heterosexual vagina fucking the official sexual penetration of America?

 

[Harry Dresden]

you have to be a Polyglot were i am at.....

 

[buckeye45_73]

When can we make heterosexual vagina fucking the official sexual penetration of America?

I'm game.....vaginal intercourse for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Againsheila]

I find it silly that English is not the official language of the US. And we can't get an Act of Congress to make it so.

I always thought that back when our forefathers decided to hold congress in English that it made English our official language, but apparently I was wrong. Actually, I'm thinking they were, not to make it official so that this wouldn't happen now.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

When can we make heterosexual vagina fucking the official sexual penetration of America?

I'm game.....vaginal intercourse for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're not good at humor.

 

[chanel]

The prosecutor in the case of a Liberian native charged with repeatedly raping and molesting a 7-year-old girl said Monday that he is filing an appeal of a controversial judge's ruling that dismissed all charges because an interpreter who spoke the suspect's rare West African dialect could not be found.

Montgomery County State's Attorney John McCarthy called the ruling last Tuesday by Judge Katherine Savage "improper," adding that his office has "requested that an appeal be taken to reverse the court's order."

Savage ruled on July 17 that Mahamu Kanneh, a Liberian who received asylum in the U.S. and attended high school and community college here, was denied a speedy trial after three years awaiting a court-appointed interpreter who could speak the tribal language of Vai. Linguists estimate that only 100,000 people speak Vai.

McCarthy charged the delays cited in Savage's order to dismiss the "result of the court locating a qualified interpreter," and not the fault of the prosecutor.

"The fact is on four separate occasions this court provided Vai interpreters," McCarthy said, adding that one of the interpreters had agreed to participate in further proceedings.

Court records, meanwhile, show that an interpreter was "sworn" by a Maryland court on the same day Savage dismissed the case, FOXNews.com has learned.

Loretta Knight, a clerk with the court system in Montgomery County, Md., claimed she had been unable to find an interpreter to stay on the case, even after an exhaustive search that included the Liberian Embassy and courts in 47 states.

But a look at the court docket for July 17, the day the case was dismissed, shows the entry "Interpreter sworn.” Several items below in the docket, Judge Savage “grants defendant’s oral motion to dismiss case based on a speedy trial violation.”

Time to learn whatever they speak on Seti Alpha 5 «

Because no one has found an interpreter for him, Mexican national Tereso Salinas has been held without trial in the Madison County Jail since July 2008 on a charge of raping a child. He speaks no English and little Spanish.

Salinas, 59, had a trial date set for Monday, but since the court, the prosecution and defense have been unable to locate an interpreter who speaks his native Chatino, an officially recognized language in south-central Mexico, the case is no closer to resolution.

Attorney Ron Smith, who petitioned for a speedy trial in 2008, said he cannot communicate with his client.

Smith argues that Salinas, one of an estimated 23,000 Chatino speakers in the world, most located in the Mexican state of Oaxaca, should have his case dismissed because an interpreter has not been provided during his two and a half years in jail.

Prosecutor Leann White said she has provided a number of possible names of would-be Chatino interpreters and that any delays in the case are because of the defendant, not the state.

Rape case cannot move forward due to lack of Chatino interpreter | al.com

Not only are non-English speakers entitled to a costly interpreter (some get up to $600 an hour), they can pick who they like. And apparently if they don't "like" the state's choice, the judge will drop the case.

Dangerous criminals being set free because we don't have the fortitude to say "Enough".

 

[JoeB131]

Rep. Steve King of Iowa spoke yesterday in support of a bill he introduced a year ago to make English the official language of the US. As most probably know, we do not now have an official language.

Michigan Rep. John Conyers gave his rebuttal in less-than-perfect Spanish.

If we've gotten by for 235 years without an "official" language, we probably don't need one.

You know, there are countries where they speak multiple languages, and things are just fine.

Really.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Rep. Steve King of Iowa spoke yesterday in support of a bill he introduced a year ago to make English the official language of the US. As most probably know, we do not now have an official language.

Michigan Rep. John Conyers gave his rebuttal in less-than-perfect Spanish.

America always has been and always will be a melting pot of cultures and races and languages. I'm proud of the fact that we don't have an official language. It should always be that way.

What you are saying good and fine as long as folks assimilate... but there is a certain segment of our society that has no intention of doing that... in fact they require we learn their language to accommodate them.

This is where I draw the freeking line.

In fact I am sitting at the lunch table right now with 3 Philipino nurses, and they are just babbling away in their native language and it bothers me none.... but once they return to the clinic floor... they speak great english.

I just wonder if they are talking about me…

Owe thi ironee!

And...they were talking about you.

 

[chanel]

Other countries has much stricter immigration laws too. My guess is that they don't accommodate every single ethnic group on their driver's tests.

* Number of languages spoken in the U.S.: 311.
* Those languages indigenous to the U.S: 162
* Those that are immigrant languages: 149
* There are 14 million households in the United States where English is not the primary language.

How Many Languages are Spoken in the U.S. Exactly? | Gadling.com

 

[LoneLaugher]

Other countries has much stricter immigration laws too. My guess is that they don't accommodate every single ethnic group on their driver's tests.

* Number of languages spoken in the U.S.: 311.
* Those languages indigenous to the U.S: 162
* Those that are immigrant languages: 149
* There are 14 million households in the United States where English is not the primary language.

How Many Languages are Spoken in the U.S. Exactly? | Gadling.com

And the USMB English Language Seminar continues........

 

[chanel]

Isn't that the topic?

 

[chanel]

Rep. Steve King of Iowa spoke yesterday in support of a bill he introduced a year ago to make English the official language of the US. As most probably know, we do not now have an official language.

Michigan Rep. John Conyers gave his rebuttal in less-than-perfect Spanish.

If we've gotten by for 235 years without an "official" language, we probably don't need one.

You know, there are countries where they speak multiple languages, and things are just fine.

Really.

The Government has announced that changes will soon be introduced to the driving theory test for immigrant drivers. Within a few months, immigrants will no longer be allowed to take their UK driving test in their native language or with the help of a translator.

“It cannot be right to be handing British driving licences to people who are unable to read warning signs flashed up on motorway gantries,” said Transport minister Mike Penning, adding that he was confident there was just cause for the ban, and that most other EU countries did not allow learner drivers to take their driving test in a foreign language.

Immigrants to be Banned from Taking UK Driving Test in a Foreign Language | 1st Contact eNews

In NJ, the test is offered in 10 different languages, and if you don't know any of those, you can get your own interpreter.

How to take the test
Visit a MVC Driver Testing Center: (no fee charged to take the test)

* The written tests are offered in the following languages: English, Arabic, Chinese, French, Spanish, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Russian and Japanese
* Oral tests are offered in English and Spanish


Foreign language options
If you are unable to take a knowledge test in your native language, you may use an approved interpreter:

* A full-time faculty member of a state-accredited college or university with proper identification from the institution
* A priest, minister, rabbi or other religious leader of a recognized organization with credentials of association with the organization
* An individual with an interpreter identification card issued by the U.S. Department of State, Office of Language Services

What better incentive to learn the language than getting a license to drive? Not to mention the safety hazards created by people who can't read the signs.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Rep. Steve King of Iowa spoke yesterday in support of a bill he introduced a year ago to make English the official language of the US. As most probably know, we do not now have an official language.

Michigan Rep. John Conyers gave his rebuttal in less-than-perfect Spanish.

If we've gotten by for 235 years without an "official" language, we probably don't need one.

You know, there are countries where they speak multiple languages, and things are just fine.

Really.

The Government has announced that changes will soon be introduced to the driving theory test for immigrant drivers. Within a few months, immigrants will no longer be allowed to take their UK driving test in their native language or with the help of a translator.

“It cannot be right to be handing British driving licences to people who are unable to read warning signs flashed up on motorway gantries,” said Transport minister Mike Penning, adding that he was confident there was just cause for the ban, and that most other EU countries did not allow learner drivers to take their driving test in a foreign language.

Immigrants to be Banned from Taking UK Driving Test in a Foreign Language | 1st Contact eNews

In NJ, the test is offered in 10 different languages, and if you don't know any of those, you can get your own interpreter.

How to take the test
Visit a MVC Driver Testing Center: (no fee charged to take the test)

* The written tests are offered in the following languages: English, Arabic, Chinese, French, Spanish, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Russian and Japanese
* Oral tests are offered in English and Spanish


Foreign language options
If you are unable to take a knowledge test in your native language, you may use an approved interpreter:

* A full-time faculty member of a state-accredited college or university with proper identification from the institution
* A priest, minister, rabbi or other religious leader of a recognized organization with credentials of association with the organization
* An individual with an interpreter identification card issued by the U.S. Department of State, Office of Language Services

What better incentive to learn the language than getting a license to drive? Not to mention the safety hazards created by people who can't read the signs.

Is NJ being forced to provide that test in 10 languages by the federal government?

If not, please ask yourself how that information is of any value to this discussion.

 

[rightwinger]

Rep. Steve King of Iowa spoke yesterday in support of a bill he introduced a year ago to make English the official language of the US. As most probably know, we do not now have an official language.

Michigan Rep. John Conyers gave his rebuttal in less-than-perfect Spanish.

If we've gotten by for 235 years without an "official" language, we probably don't need one.

You know, there are countries where they speak multiple languages, and things are just fine.

Really.

The Government has announced that changes will soon be introduced to the driving theory test for immigrant drivers. Within a few months, immigrants will no longer be allowed to take their UK driving test in their native language or with the help of a translator.

“It cannot be right to be handing British driving licences to people who are unable to read warning signs flashed up on motorway gantries,” said Transport minister Mike Penning, adding that he was confident there was just cause for the ban, and that most other EU countries did not allow learner drivers to take their driving test in a foreign language.

Immigrants to be Banned from Taking UK Driving Test in a Foreign Language | 1st Contact eNews

In NJ, the test is offered in 10 different languages, and if you don't know any of those, you can get your own interpreter.

How to take the test
Visit a MVC Driver Testing Center: (no fee charged to take the test)

* The written tests are offered in the following languages: English, Arabic, Chinese, French, Spanish, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Russian and Japanese
* Oral tests are offered in English and Spanish


Foreign language options
If you are unable to take a knowledge test in your native language, you may use an approved interpreter:

* A full-time faculty member of a state-accredited college or university with proper identification from the institution
* A priest, minister, rabbi or other religious leader of a recognized organization with credentials of association with the organization
* An individual with an interpreter identification card issued by the U.S. Department of State, Office of Language Services

What better incentive to learn the language than getting a license to drive? Not to mention the safety hazards created by people who can't read the signs.

The test for the signs is the same in any language. They have to know what each sign means. But what difference does having the questions on general driving knowledge being given in a language you actually understand make?

Translating a drivers test into other languages is not that difficult for the state to do. It is just the "Press 1 for English" crowd that gets outraged

As long as they don't offer the drivers test in Braille I don't really care

 

[chanel]

Well let's see. If English is our official language, driver's licenses could be issued in one language, just like the U.K. If you don't see the relevance to the discussion, I can't help you.

 

[chanel]

If we've gotten by for 235 years without an "official" language, we probably don't need one.

You know, there are countries where they speak multiple languages, and things are just fine.

Really.

Immigrants to be Banned from Taking UK Driving Test in a Foreign Language | 1st Contact eNews

In NJ, the test is offered in 10 different languages, and if you don't know any of those, you can get your own interpreter.

How to take the test
Visit a MVC Driver Testing Center: (no fee charged to take the test)

* The written tests are offered in the following languages: English, Arabic, Chinese, French, Spanish, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Russian and Japanese
* Oral tests are offered in English and Spanish


Foreign language options
If you are unable to take a knowledge test in your native language, you may use an approved interpreter:

* A full-time faculty member of a state-accredited college or university with proper identification from the institution
* A priest, minister, rabbi or other religious leader of a recognized organization with credentials of association with the organization
* An individual with an interpreter identification card issued by the U.S. Department of State, Office of Language Services

What better incentive to learn the language than getting a license to drive? Not to mention the safety hazards created by people who can't read the signs.

The test for the signs is the same in any language. They have to know what each sign means. But what difference does having the questions on general driving knowledge being given in a language you actually understand make?

Translating a drivers test into other languages is not that difficult for the state to do. It is just the "Press 1 for English" crowd that gets outraged

It's not that difficult? Says who? How much does it cost? Who scores them?

And - not every street sign is a symbol.

Plus - if an interpreter is used, who would know if they help cheat on the exam? No one.

 

[rightwinger]

Immigrants to be Banned from Taking UK Driving Test in a Foreign Language | 1st Contact eNews

In NJ, the test is offered in 10 different languages, and if you don't know any of those, you can get your own interpreter.



What better incentive to learn the language than getting a license to drive? Not to mention the safety hazards created by people who can't read the signs.

The test for the signs is the same in any language. They have to know what each sign means. But what difference does having the questions on general driving knowledge being given in a language you actually understand make?

Translating a drivers test into other languages is not that difficult for the state to do. It is just the "Press 1 for English" crowd that gets outraged

It's not that difficult? Says who? How much does it cost? Who scores them?

And - not every street sign is a symbol.

Plus - if an interpreter is used, who would know if they help cheat on the exam? No one.

You are a teacher? How long do you think it takes someone who speaks Spanish to translate a 30 question test from English to Spanish? An hour? Two hours?
The computer scores your test
You have to speak English to know what a Stop sign means?
You have to get an approved interpreter. Not your Uncle Luigi

 

[Seawytch]

The prosecutor in the case of a Liberian native charged with repeatedly raping and molesting a 7-year-old girl said Monday that he is filing an appeal of a controversial judge's ruling that dismissed all charges because an interpreter who spoke the suspect's rare West African dialect could not be found.

Montgomery County State's Attorney John McCarthy called the ruling last Tuesday by Judge Katherine Savage "improper," adding that his office has "requested that an appeal be taken to reverse the court's order."

Savage ruled on July 17 that Mahamu Kanneh, a Liberian who received asylum in the U.S. and attended high school and community college here, was denied a speedy trial after three years awaiting a court-appointed interpreter who could speak the tribal language of Vai. Linguists estimate that only 100,000 people speak Vai.

McCarthy charged the delays cited in Savage's order to dismiss the "result of the court locating a qualified interpreter," and not the fault of the prosecutor.

"The fact is on four separate occasions this court provided Vai interpreters," McCarthy said, adding that one of the interpreters had agreed to participate in further proceedings.

Court records, meanwhile, show that an interpreter was "sworn" by a Maryland court on the same day Savage dismissed the case, FOXNews.com has learned.

Loretta Knight, a clerk with the court system in Montgomery County, Md., claimed she had been unable to find an interpreter to stay on the case, even after an exhaustive search that included the Liberian Embassy and courts in 47 states.

But a look at the court docket for July 17, the day the case was dismissed, shows the entry "Interpreter sworn.” Several items below in the docket, Judge Savage “grants defendant’s oral motion to dismiss case based on a speedy trial violation.”

Time to learn whatever they speak on Seti Alpha 5 «

Because no one has found an interpreter for him, Mexican national Tereso Salinas has been held without trial in the Madison County Jail since July 2008 on a charge of raping a child. He speaks no English and little Spanish.

Salinas, 59, had a trial date set for Monday, but since the court, the prosecution and defense have been unable to locate an interpreter who speaks his native Chatino, an officially recognized language in south-central Mexico, the case is no closer to resolution.

Attorney Ron Smith, who petitioned for a speedy trial in 2008, said he cannot communicate with his client.

Smith argues that Salinas, one of an estimated 23,000 Chatino speakers in the world, most located in the Mexican state of Oaxaca, should have his case dismissed because an interpreter has not been provided during his two and a half years in jail.

Prosecutor Leann White said she has provided a number of possible names of would-be Chatino interpreters and that any delays in the case are because of the defendant, not the state.

Rape case cannot move forward due to lack of Chatino interpreter | al.com

Not only are non-English speakers entitled to a costly interpreter (some get up to $600 an hour), they can pick who they like. And apparently if they don't "like" the state's choice, the judge will drop the case.

Dangerous criminals being set free because we don't have the fortitude to say "Enough".

I'd very much like to see some proof of $600 an hour.