England outlawed handguns in 1997. 1996 murder rates per 100,000: U.S. 7.41 : England 1.12 = U.S was 6.62 times as high List of countries by intentional homicide rate by decade - Wikipedia 2016 murder rates per 100,000 U.S. 4.9 : England 1.22 = U.S. = U.S. is 4.02 times as high When they wail on about the England having a lower murder rate than the USA, they already did before they banned handguns! In fact, now the USA has 4 times the murder rate, whereas before England banned hand guns, we had 6.6 times the murder rate. The gap between us has shrunk considerably since England banned hand guns. In 1920 homicide rate per 100,000: US 6.8 vs. England 0.81 Was that caused by the gun laws England passed over 70 years later?