ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

[Oldstyle]

There is a reason a free press was in the first amendment to the Constitution, Unfortunately, we have mindless followers of a Trumpist ideology that does not want truth and does not want contradictory news to their beliefs but do want a single news source preferably from a leader they will question without thought.

Putanism and Trumpism are on the rise on the right. Ironically, these folks who side with Trumpist attacks on the free press often protest how they love the Constitution. The reality is they despise the Constitution and all it stands for.

The "enemy of the people" slogan was a favorite of Stalin. I don't think it is any surprise it has been co-opted by Trump and Trumpist. A totalitarian regime is what they truly desire. They just don't have the balls to admit it.

Interesting...Barack Obama used the IRS and his Justice Department against his political opposition and the press and you on the left sat on your hands. Now you're accusing Trump of being the second coming of Stalin when he's done nothing like that?

Obama never used Stalinist rhetoric. Trump seems to use it on are a regular basis.

Obama used Stalinist TACTICS against his opponents, John...forget about "rhetoric"! Has Trump ever used the IRS against his opponents? Has Trump used his Justice Department to spy on reporters? Do you on the left really not grasp the differences between how Barack Obama abused power while he was in office and how Trump has not?

 

[Oldstyle]

There is a reason a free press was in the first amendment to the Constitution, Unfortunately, we have mindless followers of a Trumpist ideology that does not want truth and does not want contradictory news to their beliefs but do want a single news source preferably from a leader they will question without thought.

Putanism and Trumpism are on the rise on the right. Ironically, these folks who side with Trumpist attacks on the free press often protest how they love the Constitution. The reality is they despise the Constitution and all it stands for.

The "enemy of the people" slogan was a favorite of Stalin. I don't think it is any surprise it has been co-opted by Trump and Trumpist. A totalitarian regime is what they truly desire. They just don't have the balls to admit it.

The outrage over the media being bullshit predates trump and his minions, genius.
You simple minded sheep blow my fuckin mind

Even Nixon never used Stalinist rhetoric to attack the press. The sheep are those that accept such language as normal for a US president when it isn't. Think about it.

The Obama Administration accused reporters of crimes...crimes that they knew they hadn't committed...in an attempt to find out who was leaking information from inside of the White House. That's something that Nixon never dreamed of doing...yet Barry actually DID...and the Main Stream Media looked the other way. Obama attempted to ban Fox News from White House events and only backed down when other media outlets protested. You've got your panties in a bunch because of things Trump SAYS yet seem oblivious to the things that Obama actually DID! Think about that!!!

 

[Tehon]

Freedom of the press in America.




Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

 

[Penelope]

Freedom of the press in America.




Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

You mean the leakers to journalists.

 

[Tehon]

Freedom of the press in America.




Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

You mean the leakers to journalists.

Yeah, because the government in no way inhibits a free press when it is actively seeking out and jailing its sources. You go with that.

It is easy to see why we are losing our freedom in this country. And it is unrelated to Trump.

 

[Penelope]

Freedom of the press in America.




Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

You mean the leakers to journalists.

Yeah, because the government in no way inhibits a free press when it is actively seeking out and jailing its sources. You go with that.

It is easy to see why we are losing our freedom in this country. And it is unrelated to Trump.

Just who are you referring to that sat in jail? No Trump is the worst.

 

[Tehon]

Freedom of the press in America.




Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

You mean the leakers to journalists.

Yeah, because the government in no way inhibits a free press when it is actively seeking out and jailing its sources. You go with that.

It is easy to see why we are losing our freedom in this country. And it is unrelated to Trump.

Just who are you referring to that sat in jail? No Trump is the worst.

Chelsea Manning, Stephen Kim, Jeff Sterling, John Kiriakou, Donald Sachtleben and Julian Assange.

How many has Trump jailed?

 

[Penelope]

Freedom of the press in America.

Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

You mean the leakers to journalists.

Yeah, because the government in no way inhibits a free press when it is actively seeking out and jailing its sources. You go with that.

It is easy to see why we are losing our freedom in this country. And it is unrelated to Trump.

Just who are you referring to that sat in jail? No Trump is the worst.

Chelsea Manning, Stephen Kim, Jeff Sterling, John Kiriakou, Donald Sachtleben and Julian Assange.

How many has Trump jailed?

Sachtleban-
Now, it is bomb expert Donald John Sachtleben who is heading to prison — a surprise ending to a distinguished FBI career brought down by child pornography and leaking classified information.

The Carmel, Ind., man, 55, pleaded guilty Monday in a deal with federal prosecutors that calls for him to be sentenced to almost 12 years in prison, including 43 months on national security-related charges and 97 months on child pornography charges.

In the end, it may be those transgressions that define Sachtleben.

Until an Illinois child porn inquiry last year pointed investigators to a computer in the Hamilton County home of Sachtleben, his legacy appeared tied to his role in helping solve some of the most notorious terrorist cases in U.S. history.

Sachtleben and his family, through his attorney, declined to comment but issued a short statement Monday.
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Assange is not sitting in prison, Trump buddy.Ex-FBI bomb tech's high-profile career ends in scandal

 

[Penelope]

Freedom of the press in America.




Obama used the Espionage Act to put a record number of reporters' sources in jail, and Trump could be even worse

You mean the leakers to journalists.

Yeah, because the government in no way inhibits a free press when it is actively seeking out and jailing its sources. You go with that.

It is easy to see why we are losing our freedom in this country. And it is unrelated to Trump.

Just who are you referring to that sat in jail? No Trump is the worst.

Chelsea Manning, Stephen Kim, Jeff Sterling, John Kiriakou, Donald Sachtleben and Julian Assange.

How many has Trump jailed?

So you think its ok to give classified secrets to let out:
Manning was charged with 22 offenses, including aiding the enemy, which was the most serious charge and could have resulted in a death sentence.[13] She was held at the Marine Corps Brig, Quantico in Virginia, from July 2010 to April 2011, under Prevention of Injury status—which entailed de facto solitary confinement and other restrictions that caused domestic and international concern[14]—before being transferred to the Joint Regional Correctional Facility at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, where she could interact with other detainees.[15] She pleaded guilty in February 2013 to 10 of the charges.[16] The trial on the remaining charges began on June 3, 2013, and on July 30 she was convicted of 17 of the original charges and amended versions of four others, but was acquitted of aiding the enemy.[17] She was sentenced to serve a 35-year sentence at the maximum-security U.S. Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth.[18][19] On January 17, 2017, President Barack Obama commuted Manning's sentence to nearly seven years of confinement dating from her arrest on May 27, 2010.[20][21] Manning now earns a living through speaking engagements.[22]

In 2018 Manning challenged incumbent Senator Ben Cardin for the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate election in her home state of Maryland.[23] On June 26, 2018, Manning finished second among eight candidates. Manning received 5.7% of the votes; Cardin won renomination with 80.5% of the votes cas

 

[Penelope]

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Stephen Jin-Woo Kim is a former State Department contractor who pleaded guilty to a felony count of disclosing classified information to Fox News reporter James Rosen.[1][2] Prosecutors had charged that Kim's actions indirectly alerted North Korea to what U.S. intelligence officials "knew or did not know about its military capabilities and preparedness."[3]

 

[Correll]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
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Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

So, what is the point being claimed?


It seems that your position is that since some bad people in the past, said that the press of their nations, was the enemy of the people at that point in time,



that the media can never be the enemy of the people?



That does not follow. Did I misunderstand your point?

 

[Penelope]

Trump wants to shut down all news except fox news. Trump would like to imprison all people to quiet them that do not suck up to him.

 

[Correll]

There is a reason a free press was in the first amendment to the Constitution, Unfortunately, we have mindless followers of a Trumpist ideology that do not want truth and do not want contradictory news to their beliefs but do want a single news source preferably from a leader they will question without thought.

Putinism and Trumpism are on the rise on the right. Ironically, these folks who side with Trumpist attacks on the free press often protest how they love the Constitution. The reality is they despise the Constitution and all it stands for.

The "enemy of the people" slogan was a favorite of Stalin. I don't think it is any surprise it has been co-opted by Trump and Trumpist. A totalitarian or authoritarian regime is what they truly desire. They just don't have the balls to admit it.

Do you believe that Trump said that white supremacists were "Very fine people"?


That was a very divisive and harmful lie that the media spread.


THey are the enemy of the people. And so are you.

 

[Penelope]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

So, what is the point being claimed?


It seems that your position is that since some bad people in the past, said that the press of their nations, was the enemy of the people at that point in time,



that the media can never be the enemy of the people?



That does not follow. Did I misunderstand your point?

That the press is not the enemy of the people. If Trump wants to stiffen libel laws then Hillary should own the NE and Pecker (Trumps buddy) and Trump is the real enemy of the people.

 

[Marion Morrison]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

That was in yesterday's talking points memo.

To Rehash: Hitler never said the media was an enemy of the people, in fact, they weren't allowed to listen to anything outside the main loop upon penalty of death.

 

[Penelope]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

That was in yesterday's talking points memo.

To Rehash: Hitler never said the media was an enemy of the people, in fact, they weren't allowed to listen to anything outside the main loop upon penalty of death.

I never talked about Hitler in this thread.

 

[Correll]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

So, what is the point being claimed?


It seems that your position is that since some bad people in the past, said that the press of their nations, was the enemy of the people at that point in time,



that the media can never be the enemy of the people?



That does not follow. Did I misunderstand your point?

That the press is not the enemy of the people. If Trump wants to relax libel laws then Hillary should own the NE and Pecker (Trumps buddy) and Trump is the real enemy of the people.

Do you believe that since in the past, bad people said the media was the enemy of the people,


that the media can never be the Enemy of the People?

 

[Marion Morrison]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

That was in yesterday's talking points memo.

To Rehash: Hitler never said the media was an enemy of the people, in fact, they weren't allowed to listen to anything outside the main loop upon penalty of death.

I never talked about Hitler in this thread.

Of course not, because doing so destroys that narrative.

 

[Penelope]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

So, what is the point being claimed?


It seems that your position is that since some bad people in the past, said that the press of their nations, was the enemy of the people at that point in time,



that the media can never be the enemy of the people?



That does not follow. Did I misunderstand your point?

That the press is not the enemy of the people. If Trump wants to relax libel laws then Hillary should own the NE and Pecker (Trumps buddy) and Trump is the real enemy of the people.

Do you believe that since in the past, bad people said the media was the enemy of the people,


that the media can never be the Enemy of the People?

I'm sorry Trump wants to stiffen libel laws. I corrected it. He wants to be able to sue all the publishes who wrote the truth about him and the NYT's and Wa Post.

 

[Penelope]

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

Sulzberger compared Trump’s statements to those of autocrats around the world who had limited the press.

“The phrase ‘enemy of the people’ is not just false, it’s dangerous,” Sulzberger wrote. “It has an ugly history of being wielded by dictators and tyrants who sought to control public information. And it is particularly reckless coming from someone whose office gives him broad powers to fight or imprison the nation’s enemies.”

Sulzberger wrote that he had previously spoken with Trump in an attempt to get the president to soften his rhetoric.

'It's dangerous': New York Times publisher responds to Trump's media rhetoric
-----------------------------------------------
Pecker's paper National Enquirer is real the enemy of the people. Since Trump wants to "change libel" law, I'm sure Hillary Clinton can own AMI in line after Bezos, maybe they can run AMI together.

That was in yesterday's talking points memo.

To Rehash: Hitler never said the media was an enemy of the people, in fact, they weren't allowed to listen to anything outside the main loop upon penalty of death.

I never talked about Hitler in this thread.

Of course not, because doing so destroys that narrative.

If Trump wants to make the libel laws stricter , do you not think Hillary should be able to sue the heck out of Pecker and his NE?