"End gun violence"

Any number of organizations state their goal is to end gun violence, or some variation thereof.

Their means to this end, invariably, is to law restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding.

ad nauseam

Obvious
disconnect here:
Making it harder for people to exercise their rights will not end gun violence -- because as long as there are guns, there will be gun violence.

The only way to end gun violence is to... get rid of all the guns.
All of them.
ALL of them.
And prevent the creation of more.

So, there organizations either...
Don't REALLY want tto end gun violence, or...
Want to get rid of all the guns. ALL of them,

Either way: they're lying - about their objective, or their means to achieve them.

Why do these people lie?
Why do the people who really and truly want to reduce gun violence not take these liars to task?


Let's be a little more accurate.....

What they really want is to end gun violence when it means normal people being able to resist a leftist controlled government........otherwise they are fine with gun violence, especially if it means the government using guns to put the enemies of the left in mass graves....
 
Any number of organizations state their goal is to end gun violence, or some variation thereof.

Their means to this end, invariably, is to law restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding.

ad nauseam

Obvious
disconnect here:
Making it harder for people to exercise their rights will not end gun violence -- because as long as there are guns, there will be gun violence.

The only way to end gun violence is to... get rid of all the guns.
All of them.
ALL of them.
And prevent the creation of more.

So, there organizations either...
Don't REALLY want tto end gun violence, or...
Want to get rid of all the guns. ALL of them,

Either way: they're lying - about their objective, or their means to achieve them.

Why do these people lie?
Why do the people who really and truly want to reduce gun violence not take these liars to task?

The vast majority of gun violence in America can be gotten rid of by getting rid of criminals.

Stop allowing criminals, thugs, gang bangers, ghetto trash, inner cities, felons and all the bottom of the barrell shitty people to thrive in America.

Our country needs to crack down on criminals and treat them as they are. People need to be afraid of breaking the law, but our weak willed and pussified society won't allow that to happen.

Want to end gun violence? Look at the ones responsible for the majority of it and go after them. Even if you vanish every gun in the world the criminals are still here, they won't magically cease to be bad people because they don't have a gun.
 
Any number of organizations state their goal is to end gun violence, or some variation thereof.

Their means to this end, invariably, is to law restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding.

ad nauseam

Obvious
disconnect here:
Making it harder for people to exercise their rights will not end gun violence -- because as long as there are guns, there will be gun violence.

The only way to end gun violence is to... get rid of all the guns.
All of them.
ALL of them.
And prevent the creation of more.

So, there organizations either...
Don't REALLY want tto end gun violence, or...
Want to get rid of all the guns. ALL of them,

Either way: they're lying - about their objective, or their means to achieve them.

Why do these people lie?
Why do the people who really and truly want to reduce gun violence not take these liars to task?
In this era of increasing mental health issues and increasing mass shootings; it would seem logically to have all gun owners undergo mental health examinations. I hope they get this passed on the federal level. Anyone can go crazy, time to weed out the most vulnerable.
 
Let's be a little more accurate.....

What they really want is to end gun violence when it means normal people being able to resist a leftist controlled government........otherwise they are fine with gun violence, especially if it means the government using guns to put the enemies of the left in mass graves....
And that's crazy to think of political opponents as enemies. So they shouldn't have guns in the first place.
 
In this era of increasing mental health issues and increasing mass shootings; it would seem logically to have all gun owners undergo mental health examinations. I hope they get this passed on the federal level. Anyone can go crazy, time to weed out the most vulnerable.
That would be a huge slippery slope. Eventually anyone who ever had a headache would be denied gun ownership. Best to be completely honest about gun violence and reveal who shoots people and why. "Truth is the first casualty of war", and there is a war to disarm us going on. The government twists this information into knots (aka 'statistics') in order to keep it from the people.
 
In this era of increasing mental health issues and increasing mass shootings; it would seem logically to have all gun owners undergo mental health examinations. I hope they get this passed on the federal level. Anyone can go crazy, time to weed out the most vulnerable.


You really do not understand what you are talking about........

Mental health is not the basis of 99% of our shootings in this country.....criminal behavior is the cause. That is a result of fatherless homes, which create generational crime and poverty.

In 2022 we had 12 actual mass public shootings...where a mentally ill individual went to a public place with a gun to shoot people.....

12 people out of over 350 million........

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 22 million people can legally carry guns in public for self defense....

12 nuts out of 350 million is not the problem you believe it is......

The real problem is the democrat party, it's judges, prosecutors and politicians who refuse to keep violent and dangerous gun criminals in prison.....it is these individuals, with long histories of crime and violence who are doing almost all of the shooting in this country....

They can't legally buy, own or carry a gun, so mental health tests are not going to do a thing to stop them
 
And that's crazy to think of political opponents as enemies. So they shouldn't have guns in the first place.


The democrat party believes that republicans are the enemy which now justifies weaponizing agencies of the federal government to go after them....
 
In this era of increasing mental health issues and increasing mass shootings; it would seem logically to have all gun owners undergo mental health examinations. I hope they get this passed on the federal level. Anyone can go crazy, time to weed out the most vulnerable.
Funny didn't you just say we should never compromise on our rights in another thread?

So why do you want us to compromise on the 2nd Amendment?
 
That would be a huge slippery slope. Eventually anyone who ever had a headache would be denied gun ownership. Best to be completely honest about gun violence and reveal who shoots people and why. "Truth is the first casualty of war", and there is a war to disarm us going on. The government twists this information into knots (aka 'statistics') in order to keep it from the people.
The facts are against you and as things continue to get worse ( the direction they're heading ) , the public outcry will become so great that the government will have to act.
 
You really do not understand what you are talking about........

Mental health is not the basis of 99% of our shootings in this country.....criminal behavior is the cause. That is a result of fatherless homes, which create generational crime and poverty.

In 2022 we had 12 actual mass public shootings...where a mentally ill individual went to a public place with a gun to shoot people.....

12 people out of over 350 million........

We have over 600 million guns in private hands, and over 22 million people can legally carry guns in public for self defense....

12 nuts out of 350 million is not the problem you believe it is......

The real problem is the democrat party, it's judges, prosecutors and politicians who refuse to keep violent and dangerous gun criminals in prison.....it is these individuals, with long histories of crime and violence who are doing almost all of the shooting in this country....

They can't legally buy, own or carry a gun, so mental health tests are not going to do a thing to stop them
True, and regarding gun suicides (still the majority of gun deaths), although the victims are suffering some sort of mental or physical anguish, they are mostly able to conceal their suicidal intentions.
 
True, and regarding gun suicides (still the majority of gun deaths), although the victims are suffering some sort of mental or physical anguish, they are mostly able to conceal their suicidal intentions.
And the fact remains that suicide is a choice.

It is not "gun violence"
 
Then why is it usually lumped in with other gun deaths. Many see it as an even larger problem than murder.
It's lumped in so the gun control freaks can pad the numbers to artificially make their argument look stronger. Suicide is not a gun issue or a crime issue it is a mental health issue.

It's no different that the whole "Guns are the number one killers of children" argument

What they don't tell you is that the study they used as a basis for that argument counted everyone under the age of 20 as a "child"
 
No one is innocent. We, collectively, have brought all of our problems on ourselves.
 

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