Eight years after Trayvon Martin, another 17-year-old is killed in a Sanford, Florida, stand your ground case

[Fang]

"They weren't shooting in fear of personal safety," O'Mara told CNN. "In this case, it's pretty clear, in my opinion, you aren't allowed to shoot someone because they are breaking into your car."

Well, that depends. What if I need my car for an emergency situation at the moment? What if we're hundreds of miles from civilization and not having a car means I'm stranded in the middle of no where? Am I required to confront the thief and use training I don't have to get him away from my car? Seems safer to just fire the gun.

Now, this happend in Flordia so I doubt my examples apply here. But O'Mara's statement can't possibly be true in every situation.

 

[Fang]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

Yes, but we are expected to stand down when thugs threaten or rob us. This is the progressive way.

First rule: The white man is racist.

Second Rule: The white 'system' is racist.

Third Rule: Therefore all actions are in repulsion of an inherently evil system and people.

Just wait till YOU are the minority white people. Do you think those opinions will go away?

Eggxactly!!! I think you and I are the only ones in the country to understand this, and I'm only 50% white.

 

[Mac-7]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

Yes, but we are expected to stand down when thugs threaten or rob us. This is the progressive way.

First rule: The white man is racist.

Second Rule: The white 'system' is racist.

Third Rule: Therefore all actions are in repulsion of an inherently evil system and people.

Just wait till YOU are the minority white people. Do you think those opinions will go away?

That is in fact what students are taught in our society

those that fall for it become libs and vote democrat

 

[Marion Morrison]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

Not in FL. You can't use deadly force for property crimes. They don't really care if your stuff gets stolen in FL, the cops will even make you buy it back from them.

 

[Marion Morrison]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

Yes, but we are expected to stand down when thugs threaten or rob us. This is the progressive way.

No, you can use deadly force then.

 

[Theowl32]

Always love when white elite leftists pretend to care about the plight of the negro.

Don't you?

How many more times do we need to prove beyond the shadow of all doubt that the negro are nothing but tools and mental slaves for the white elitist patronizing left racist scumbags?

Wonder where Mac is and his contribution to this issue. He is the emperor of identity politics.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Mac is the epitome of wiffle-waffle cowardice.

 

[Blues Man]

Pro Life Tip

If you don't want to get shot don't steal someone else's shit

 

[M14 Shooter]

..T Martin was doing nothing wrong..Zimmerman should be in jail..Zimmerman was not standing his ground---not at all...he kept going after Martin

Zimmerman's defense did not argue stand your ground.
Anyone who ties SYG to the Martin shooting hasn't any idea wat they are talking about.

 

[Mac-7]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

Not in FL. You can't use deadly force for property crimes. They don't really care if your stuff gets stolen in FL, the cops will even make you buy it back from them.

Thats too bad

in many blue cities its no longer a crime to take up to $749 worth of merchandise

the lib DA does nothing

 

[Marion Morrison]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

Not in FL. You can't use deadly force for property crimes. They don't really care if your stuff gets stolen in FL, the cops will even make you buy it back from them.

Thats too bad

in many blue cities its no longer a crime to take up to $749 worth of merchandise

the lib DA does nothing

That's really bad..wow.

 

[The Breeze]

Pro Life Tip

If you don't want to get shot don't steal someone else's shit

This guy gets it.

 

[Mac-7]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

Not in FL. You can't use deadly force for property crimes. They don't really care if your stuff gets stolen in FL, the cops will even make you buy it back from them.

Thats too bad

in many blue cities its no longer a crime to take up to $749 worth of merchandise

the lib DA does nothing

That's really bad..wow.

The dollar limit varies from city to city but the idea is the same

 

[Marion Morrison]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

Not in FL. You can't use deadly force for property crimes. They don't really care if your stuff gets stolen in FL, the cops will even make you buy it back from them.

Thats too bad

in many blue cities its no longer a crime to take up to $749 worth of merchandise

the lib DA does nothing

That's really bad..wow.

The dollar limit varies from city to city but the idea is the same

It's better than that here. They will arrest and put them in jail. You might have to buy your stuff back from the cops, though.

 

[Likkmee]

I was indicating just last night in a thread regarding the killing of Ahmud Abery in Georgia that Texas is the only state that I'm aware of that allows shooting someone to protect property and then only under a very specific set of circumstances.

Again we find that the shooter in this case originally claimed to have acted in a manner which is contrary to what the law allows. Thank God for that documentation which is as I understand it, heard in the 911 call.

By the way, the attorney representing the family of the 17 year old is the same attorney who represented George Zimmerman in his criminal trial

The family of a black 17-year-old fatally shot in the back by a homeowner during an alleged car break-in in Sanford, Florida, has hired Mark O'Mara, the attorney who represented George Zimmerman, the lawyer said.

Zimmerman shot and killed another 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, in the same city in 2012. He was acquitted of all charges after claiming self-defense.

In the new case O'Mara has taken, he is representing the family of Adrein Green, who was killed before 2 a.m. Tuesday after, police say, he attempted to burglarize a vehicle in a gated community.

The homeowner was on the phone with a 911 operator reporting a possible home burglary when he fired two shots at Green, which can be heard on the 911 call released by police.

2014: Young black men can get justice, O'Mara says. 03:05

Officers found Green unresponsive on a road near the home, police say. They performed CPR, but Green died at the hospital from "an apparent single gunshot wound to his back," Sanford Police Chief Cecil Smith said at a news conference.

Evidence at the scene shows Green tried to break into one of the homeowner's vehicles, Smith said.

The homeowner wasn't arrested because he was justified in using deadly force when Green allegedly engaged in a "forcible felony," said Assistant State Attorney Dan Faggard with the 18th Judicial Circuit.

The homeowner told police he feared for his life and for the lives of his wife and baby, Faggard said. Authorities have not publicly identified the homeowner.

Under Florida law, a person can use deadly force if she or he "believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony."

The person using deadly force "does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be," the law states.

O'Mara contested the prosecutor's claim, saying the homeowner says in the 911 call that he fired his weapon to scare Green off of his property.

"They weren't shooting in fear of personal safety," O'Mara told CNN. "In this case, it's pretty clear, in my opinion, you aren't allowed to shoot someone because they are breaking into your car."

The investigation is ongoing, State Attorney Phil Archer's office said in a statement, and once a final determination is made it will be announced publicly.

Florida's stand your ground law was a topic of debate in the Zimmerman case, as well as in the cases of Michael Dunn, who killed Jordan Davis, 17, during a 2012 argument over loud music in Jacksonville, and Michael Drejka, who killed Markeis McGlockton after McGlockton pushed him in a 2018 confrontation over a handicapped parking space in Clearwater.

Like Zimmerman, Dunn forewent a stand your ground defense and argued the shooting was in self-defense. Dunn was convicted of murder, Drejka of manslaughter. Both are in prison.
Eight years after Trayvon Martin, another 17-year-old is killed in a Sanford, Florida, stand your ground case

8 years .OMG ! Trayvon could have been an angineer or nuqular phicalcalist by now !

 

[Mac-7]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

Not in FL. You can't use deadly force for property crimes. They don't really care if your stuff gets stolen in FL, the cops will even make you buy it back from them.

Thats too bad

in many blue cities its no longer a crime to take up to $749 worth of merchandise

the lib DA does nothing

That's really bad..wow.

The dollar limit varies from city to city but the idea is the same

It's better than that here. They will arrest and put them in jail. You might have to buy your stuff back from the cops, though.

Its amazing how many lib cities are legalizing theft

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Anytime you see a black man running thru a white neighborhood it's only logical to assume either he has stolen something or just committed a crime and is running from the police. ...

Any time I see a post like this, it is only logical to assume an IQ of less than 70.

He's not stupid, just a racist & bigot, which is interesting to me since he presents as a Muslim.

 

[2aguy]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

And the Martin case wasn't Stand your Ground either......

 

[Andylusion]

It seems that the man who died, was commiting a serious crime in breaking/entering a car, that is made clear in the story.

The problem is that the shooter doesn't appear to have enough self defense reason to shoot a man IN THE BACK!

To be honest, think thieves should be shot.
Don't steal.
You want to live? Keep your hands off other people's property.

I think thieves should be shot.

 

[2aguy]

..if you commit a crime, you initiate the problem ....
.. if a criminal is shot dead, it is undeniable that it is GOOD for everyone--good for the community
..T Martin was doing nothing wrong..Zimmerman should be in jail..Zimmerman was not standing his ground---not at all...he kept going after Martin

Martin attacked Zimmerman....Zimmeran was on his way back to his vehicle, all contact between the two was broken, and martin circled back to attack Zimmerman....

Stand your Ground was no involved in any way in the Zimmerman case.