Egyptian Airliner goes missing over Mediterranean

[dannyboys]

Debris field covers 40 Sq miles. Can anyone impact cause one that large or only an in flight explosion?

The 'eyes and ears' system picked up the bright light and sound of the explosion at precisely the same moment.
To all you LIB 'neverwasers' here let me tell you something.
When Trump came out and flatly declared it was a bomb that brought down the plane here's a little FACT!
Trump and his team are some of the most 'connected' people on the planet.
They do business all over the world.
A few phone calls to 'officials' in Egypt and Trump knows EXACTLY what's happening.
Trump can personally call any world leader on the planet and his call is answered.
The last time Obama tried to call Xi Jinging Obama was told to call back after the president had finished his Seduco.

 

[Divine Wind]

It is NOT physically possible under ANY circumstance that ANY terrorist "penetrated the cockpit". Those days are LONG GONE!.......Unless the terrorists were the pilots.
If that were the case there would have been ZERO point in detonating an explosive device.

And you know this how? It would be difficult, but not impossible. Again, a bomb in cargo is the easiest option.

 

[Divine Wind]

Debris field covers 40 Sq miles. Can anyone impact cause one that large or only an in flight explosion?

The plane breaking up at 36,000 feet and debris floating on the surface for 24 hours would do that.

 

[Divine Wind]

It's a fact a bomb was in the tail section and detonated with a wrist watch?

As a matter of FACT yes.

Amazing! Do you read minds or did the terrorists email you?

 

[Divine Wind]

That is exactly why I quit flying many years ago. I won't take any risk, no matter how small, to die that way.

So you don't ever leave your house? In the US we kill over 30,000 per year in auto accidents. About half are related to drinking. Nobody bats an eye, but have one plane crash killing 66 people on the other side of the planet, and they all wet their nappies in fear. No wonder the terrorists are winning.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

That is exactly why I quit flying many years ago. I won't take any risk, no matter how small, to die that way.

So you don't ever leave your house? In the US we kill over 30,000 per year in auto accidents. About half are related to drinking. Nobody bats an eye, but have one plane crash killing 66 people on the other side of the planet, and they all wet their nappies in fear. No wonder the terrorists are winning.

I have never had any fear of getting into a car crash, although of course, I have considered it many times. It is being around a lot of people in a panic, ready to die in a disaster that has scared me for a long time. I determined in the mid-to-late 90's not to fly anymore and have had at least a couple of dreams I remembered very well of being in a plane that was going to crash and did crash. It has been so long now thankfully that I hardly think about it anymore.

 

[dannyboys]

It is NOT physically possible under ANY circumstance that ANY terrorist "penetrated the cockpit". Those days are LONG GONE!.......Unless the terrorists were the pilots.
If that were the case there would have been ZERO point in detonating an explosive device.

And you know this how? It would be difficult, but not impossible. Again, a bomb in cargo is the easiest option.

OK fuck wit! So now you'll explain how a hardened steel titanium door separating the cockpit from the passengers is opened by ANYONE!!!! NO commercial airline pilot will EVER open that door under ANY circumstances EVER!!!!!
What are you? Like twelve?

 

[dannyboys]

Debris field covers 40 Sq miles. Can anyone impact cause one that large or only an in flight explosion?

The plane breaking up at 36,000 feet and debris floating on the surface for 24 hours would do that.

No you fucking moron!
A debris field COULD extend for forty miles depending on the wind and tide.
What are you? Like twelve?

 

[skye]

South America is a better proposition ...nowadays!

Hopefully not to Socialist Utopia Venezuela. If so better bring your own toilet paper.

Definitely no Venezuela. Nope.

 

[Divine Wind]

No you fucking moron!
A debris field COULD extend for forty miles depending on the wind and tide.
What are you? Like twelve?

You might want to read my post again since that's what I said. Sorry if I used words and concepts too big for you to comprehend.

OK fuck wit! So now you'll explain how a hardened steel titanium door separating the cockpit from the passengers is opened by ANYONE!!!! NO commercial airline pilot will EVER open that door under ANY circumstances EVER!!!!!
What are you? Like twelve?

Since I actually work in aviation safety and security, I know you are wrong. You are free to believe the propaganda, but nothing is perfect. I'm sure that's very difficult to understand for hotheaded blowhards who have an IQ less than 90, but it's the truth.

 

[Divine Wind]

Definitely no Venezuela. Nope.

Agreed. Venezuela is a sterling and recent example of why socialism doesn't work. It's also a basket case. Columbia, Guyana and Brazil will have to start worrying about refugees fleeing Venezuela as the country collapses.

 

[skye]

Smoke detected in cabin ........ in the minutes before EgyptAir Flight 804 plunged into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data transmissions revealed Friday....... I wonder what was that...

Smoke detected in cabin of crashed EgyptAir jet; debris found

 

[Divine Wind]

Smoke detected in cabin ........ in the minutes before EgyptAir Flight 804 plunged into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data transmissions revealed Friday....... I wonder what was that...

Smoke detected in cabin of crashed EgyptAir jet; debris found

Uncontrollable fire in the cargo bay. That's what brought down Valuejet 562 20 years ago this month. It could be accidental, like Valuejet, or it could be sabotage such as thermite in the lavatory.


CNN - The crash of ValuJet Flight 592

 

[Divine Wind]

The Airbus A320 has two cargo bays under the floorboards:

 

[Igrok_]

Distress call is now being reported to be received by the Egyptian military.

Terrible way to die. Sheer terror for your final moments.

Very sad

That is exactly why I quit flying many years ago. I won't take any risk, no matter how small, to die that way.

hm, do you travel by ship between continents or towards UK?

It took me quite awhile to figure this out, but sinking with the ship would mean a lot of the same terror as going down in a plane, so I finally decided no ships either. lol

prefer swimming in a boat? Balloon?

 

[Igrok_]

to the topic: more likely it was one more act of islam.

 

[Bill Angel]

Smoke detected in cabin ........ in the minutes before EgyptAir Flight 804 plunged into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data transmissions revealed Friday....... I wonder what was that...

Smoke detected in cabin of crashed EgyptAir jet; debris found

Uncontrollable fire in the cargo bay. That's what brought down Valuejet 562 20 years ago this month. It could be accidental, like Valuejet, or it could be sabotage such as thermite in the lavatory.

It also might have been caused by someone smoking a cigarette in the lavatory, who didn't dispose of the butt properly.

 

[Divine Wind]

Smoke detected in cabin ........ in the minutes before EgyptAir Flight 804 plunged into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data transmissions revealed Friday....... I wonder what was that...

Smoke detected in cabin of crashed EgyptAir jet; debris found

Uncontrollable fire in the cargo bay. That's what brought down Valuejet 562 20 years ago this month. It could be accidental, like Valuejet, or it could be sabotage such as thermite in the lavatory.

It also might have been caused by someone smoking a cigarette in the lavatory, who didn't dispose of the butt properly.

The smoke, yes, but that would be a helluva coincidence to have someone smoking in the lav just before the plane when down.

 

[mamooth]

Crash: Egypt A320 over Mediterranean on May 19th 2016, aircraft found crashed, ACARS messages indicate fire on board
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On May 20th 2016 The Aviation Herald received information from three independent channels, that ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages with following content were received from the aircraft:

00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW
00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR
00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE
00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE
00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR
00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT
00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT

no further ACARS messages were received.
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So, smoke alarms in the forward lavatory (right behind the cockpit) and avionics bay (below the cockpit). No smoke alarms in cargo bays.

The window warnings are probably from a damaged sensor wire.

The two flight computers that failed are in the avionics bay.

So, there's a fire in the forward lavatory and avionics bay, which quickly takes out two flight computers. There are more redundant computers than that, but we don't know what happened afterwards. If the fire took out the rest of the computers, it could have rendered the aircraft uncontrollable.

Cause of the fires, still unknown.

 

[Marianne]

Breaking on TV now. I'll link when available.

A commercial airliner from France has "gone missing" over the Mediterranean. They're saying it is gone...likely went down in the sea. Unknown why.

Damn those Jehovah Witnesses for blowing up the plane.