EGYPT: US about to make another Iraq style blunder in ME

[rdean]

What many Americans fail to understand is "They are NOT us".

Many Americans, especially the right actually believes the rhetoric, "They hate us for our freedom". It has been repeated ad nauseum until the average American believes it's true. Like, "Obama is a socialist/Kenynan/Muslim" until even some Democrats believe it. Or "Obama took a two hundred million dollar a day trip".

America needs to "STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST".

Look at what happened in Iran. The Shah was kicked out, and the country became a hard right Islamic Theocracy the first chance they got. Republicans with the forced help of Democrats invaded Iraq and destroyed those people's government and the first time they vote, they vote into office a hard right Islamic Theocracy. It's even written into their constitution. You only need to read Article II to know that to be true.

Now America is saying Egypt must have "freedom" to vote and look at what they will vote into office. You can guarantee it will be a hard right Islamic Theocracy. Those people are wired that way.

In fact, if our freedoms weren't protected by our constitution, the religious right would create a hard right Christian Theocracy here. That's what the religious do. Because they do it for "Gawd".

If we weren't dependent on ME oil and if we stayed out of their affairs, this is what would happen:

Either:

They would become a democracy, which would end up making us safer.

Or:

They would become a religious theocracy, which would mean they are anti science and would be no threat to us. Science and religion don't mix. We know that looking at our own right wing.

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

 

[bucs90]

"They are not us"?

So......so......you're telling me another group of people, who look and believe a certain way, are truly different from us? Should we maybe treat groups differently, then, based on the general way they act?

I mean if one group is almost always responsible for blowing up planes....should we look for them?

 

[bucs90]

Just saying. If they are just like us, then they can act like us and we'll help them do it.

But if they are truly honestly different, then why do we get told we must treat them as if they are just like us? They aren't....you said so.

 

[30x90]

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

We don't import any oil from Egypt.

 

[Dr.Drock]

No they are like us.

Easily manipulated by their bureacrats (like the OP of this thread towards democrats) and they value religion over education like the vast majority of americans.

The only difference is they have a different god, and history shows when this is the case things don't end well for the country with less power.

 

[bucs90]

No they are like us.

Easily manipulated by their bureacrats (like the OP of this thread towards democrats) and they value religion over education like the vast majority of americans.

The only difference is they have a different god, and history shows when this is the case things don't end well for the country with less power.

No, there is one more tiny, teeny weeny difference.

They, and by they I mean MUSLIMS, a disturbing percentage of THEM, again, I mean MUSLIMS, tend to strap bombs to themselves and explode themselves in groups of strangers to get a point across, hoping THEY take as many of us (non Muslims) to the grave as possible.

But other than that tiny detail, sure, they're like us.

 

[bucs90]

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

We don't import any oil from Egypt.

Your stupidity does show no limits.

Oil is traded on a global market. We import most of ours from Mexico and Canada.

But, if the Mid East oil flow is disrupted, it disrupts the global supply, thus the global price, and then of course our bottom line.

Oh, and you can not say "We" referring to the United States. You're a fucking dipshit, coward traitor who fled the country because you couldn't hack it in a competitive atmosphere you pansy. Tell us how the 3rd world markets are doing. After that, STFU.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Your wrong rdean (as usual). All people yearn to breathe free no matter what country they live in or religion they practice. So they are no different than us.

It's governments that are oppressive not the people.

 

[bucs90]

Mmm. Rdean is partially right, partially wrong. Pretty much everything he said is wrong EXCEPT his first sentence.

"They" are indeed "NOT LIKE US".

We don't blow ourselves up on planes and in supermarkets.

Sadly, however, we treat them just like us when looking for folks who may commit such an act.

 

[Dr.Drock]

No they are like us.

Easily manipulated by their bureacrats (like the OP of this thread towards democrats) and they value religion over education like the vast majority of americans.

The only difference is they have a different god, and history shows when this is the case things don't end well for the country with less power.

No, there is one more tiny, teeny weeny difference.

They, and by they I mean MUSLIMS, a disturbing percentage of THEM, again, I mean MUSLIMS, tend to strap bombs to themselves and explode themselves in groups of strangers to get a point across, hoping THEY take as many of us (non Muslims) to the grave as possible.

But other than that tiny detail, sure, they're like us.

Please educate me on what that percentage is of muslims who strap bombs to themselves.

Poor uneducated middle easterners born in ghettos strap bombs to themselves and kill people, poor uneducated americans become gang bangers and kill people in drive bys and during criminal activity. The only difference is one is scarier to you and the ppl committing these terrible acts don't share your religion. Both strategies end up with innocent people dead.

Imagine how stupid it would be for me to claim a "disturbing percentage of christians are murdering gang bangers", but with the way our media molds people's brains you can see why people think they way they do. Imagine if everytime a christian gang member killed someone they had their face put on tv with the subtitle "fanatical christian terrorist strikes again" like we do with muslims.

I'm just so thankful that I'm not a member of any of these disgusting groups (muslim, democrat, christian, republican, etc etc).

 

[30x90]

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

We don't import any oil from Egypt.

Your stupidity does show no limits.

Oil is traded on a global market. We import most of ours from Mexico and Canada.

But, if the Mid East oil flow is disrupted, it disrupts the global supply, thus the global price, and then of course our bottom line.

You think you're an economist, too, huh pig?
U.S. Oil Imports by Country of Origin - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com


I think you are confused..(by a sugar rush from too many donuts?)..This is all unrelated gibberish.

Oh, and you can not say "We" referring to the United States. You're a fucking dipshit, coward traitor who fled the country because you couldn't hack it in a competitive atmosphere you pansy. Tell us how the 3rd world markets are doing. After that, STFU.

I never fled any country, I'm not a coward or a pansy. You like those ad hom attacks, right?

Makes you feel powerful, huh, pig?
Real classy.

 

[bucs90]

No they are like us.

Easily manipulated by their bureacrats (like the OP of this thread towards democrats) and they value religion over education like the vast majority of americans.

The only difference is they have a different god, and history shows when this is the case things don't end well for the country with less power.

No, there is one more tiny, teeny weeny difference.

They, and by they I mean MUSLIMS, a disturbing percentage of THEM, again, I mean MUSLIMS, tend to strap bombs to themselves and explode themselves in groups of strangers to get a point across, hoping THEY take as many of us (non Muslims) to the grave as possible.

But other than that tiny detail, sure, they're like us.

Please educate me on what that percentage is of muslims who strap bombs to themselves.

Poor uneducated middle easterners born in ghettos strap bombs to themselves and kill people, poor uneducated americans become gang bangers and kill people in drive bys and during criminal activity. The only difference is one is scarier to you and the ppl committing these terrible acts don't share your religion. Both strategies end up with innocent people dead.

Imagine how stupid it would be for me to claim a "disturbing percentage of christians are murdering gang bangers", but with the way our media molds people's brains you can see why people think they way they do. Imagine if everytime a christian gang member killed someone they had their face put on tv with the subtitle "fanatical christian terrorist strikes again" like we do with muslims.

I'm just so thankful that I'm not a member of any of these disgusting groups (muslim, democrat, christian, republican, etc etc).

Wrong. For one, the drive by shooters, evil as they are, have a specific target. Stray bullets do happen, but they have a target. You don't see Bloods or Crips strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up a mall. They just wanna shoot the homeboys who stole their dope. HUGE difference.

The 9-11 bombers, and lots of recent wannabes who tried, had good educations and money. Osama Bin Laden is a millionaire. The attempted NYC times square bomber had a house, middle class job, good life. But jihad called louder. Thats a liberal myth that terrorists are only poor Muslims. Many middle class and even wealthy Muslims crave jihad.

Lastly, Christians aren't killing gangbangers. And, if some of the gangbangers are Christians, and kill, they did it because of drugs or money. NOT because of religion. Unless the Bloods and Crips believe 72 virgins await them for blowing themselves up?

Islam has a radical mental cancer that it is in denial about.

Several studies have been done on what % of Muslims in any sector of the country are jihadists. Some are up to 40%. Google it, I'm not here to educate you.

But I can give you a ballpark % of how many suicide bombers are Muslim? What, 95% or more? Unless you include the Japs in WW2, the Muslims have a monopoly on exploding themselves among innocent people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What many Americans fail to understand is "They are NOT us".

Many Americans, especially the right actually believes the rhetoric, "They hate us for our freedom". It has been repeated ad nauseum until the average American believes it's true. Like, "Obama is a socialist/Kenynan/Muslim" until even some Democrats believe it. Or "Obama took a two hundred million dollar a day trip".

America needs to "STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST".

Look at what happened in Iran. The Shah was kicked out, and the country became a hard right Islamic Theocracy the first chance they got. Republicans with the forced help of Democrats invaded Iraq and destroyed those people's government and the first time they vote, they vote into office a hard right Islamic Theocracy. It's even written into their constitution. You only need to read Article II to know that to be true.

Now America is saying Egypt must have "freedom" to vote and look at what they will vote into office. You can guarantee it will be a hard right Islamic Theocracy. Those people are wired that way.

In fact, if our freedoms weren't protected by our constitution, the religious right would create a hard right Christian Theocracy here. That's what the religious do. Because they do it for "Gawd".

If we weren't dependent on ME oil and if we stayed out of their affairs, this is what would happen:

Either:

They would become a democracy, which would end up making us safer.

Or:

They would become a religious theocracy, which would mean they are anti science and would be no threat to us. Science and religion don't mix. We know that looking at our own right wing.

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

"Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as "the president who lost Iran," which during his term went from being a major strategic ally of the United States to being the revolutionary Islamic Republic. Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who "lost" Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America's alliances in the Middle East crumbled.


Obama began his presidency with trips to Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and in speeches in Ankara and Cairo tried to forge new ties between the United States and the Muslim world. His message to Muslims was "I am one of you," and he backed it by quoting from the Koran. "
Obama will go down in history as the president who lost Egypt - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

 

[bucs90]

We don't import any oil from Egypt.

Your stupidity does show no limits.

Oil is traded on a global market. We import most of ours from Mexico and Canada.

But, if the Mid East oil flow is disrupted, it disrupts the global supply, thus the global price, and then of course our bottom line.

You think you're an economist, too, huh pig?
U.S. Oil Imports by Country of Origin - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com


I think you are confused..(by a sugar rush from too many donuts?)..This is all unrelated gibberish.

Oh, and you can not say "We" referring to the United States. You're a fucking dipshit, coward traitor who fled the country because you couldn't hack it in a competitive atmosphere you pansy. Tell us how the 3rd world markets are doing. After that, STFU.

I never fled any country, I'm not a coward or a pansy. You like those ad hom attacks, right?

Makes you feel powerful, huh, pig?
Real classy.

My memory is superior to yours. You claimed in another thread you left this country and found a better home in another. Caught you in a lie you fag. STFU. You're amateur.

Yes, I'm a pig, yum, gimme more donuts, I need more fat! You can't offend me pussy, I know I'm more man than you'll ever be, so let the insults fly! I love it!

 

[Intense]

What many Americans fail to understand is "They are NOT us".

Many Americans, especially the right actually believes the rhetoric, "They hate us for our freedom". It has been repeated ad nauseum until the average American believes it's true. Like, "Obama is a socialist/Kenynan/Muslim" until even some Democrats believe it. Or "Obama took a two hundred million dollar a day trip".

America needs to "STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST".

Look at what happened in Iran. The Shah was kicked out, and the country became a hard right Islamic Theocracy the first chance they got. Republicans with the forced help of Democrats invaded Iraq and destroyed those people's government and the first time they vote, they vote into office a hard right Islamic Theocracy. It's even written into their constitution. You only need to read Article II to know that to be true.

Now America is saying Egypt must have "freedom" to vote and look at what they will vote into office. You can guarantee it will be a hard right Islamic Theocracy. Those people are wired that way.

In fact, if our freedoms weren't protected by our constitution, the religious right would create a hard right Christian Theocracy here. That's what the religious do. Because they do it for "Gawd".

If we weren't dependent on ME oil and if we stayed out of their affairs, this is what would happen:

Either:

They would become a democracy, which would end up making us safer.

Or:

They would become a religious theocracy, which would mean they are anti science and would be no threat to us. Science and religion don't mix. We know that looking at our own right wing.

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

You should work for the State Department R Dean. Let me present you with the White Flag of Surrender, and we will get you signed right up. You don't even need to be indoctrinated.

 

[bucs90]

We don't import any oil from Egypt.

Your stupidity does show no limits.

Oil is traded on a global market. We import most of ours from Mexico and Canada.

But, if the Mid East oil flow is disrupted, it disrupts the global supply, thus the global price, and then of course our bottom line.

You think you're an economist, too, huh pig?
U.S. Oil Imports by Country of Origin - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com


I think you are confused..(by a sugar rush from too many donuts?)..This is all unrelated gibberish.

Oh, and you can not say "We" referring to the United States. You're a fucking dipshit, coward traitor who fled the country because you couldn't hack it in a competitive atmosphere you pansy. Tell us how the 3rd world markets are doing. After that, STFU.

I never fled any country, I'm not a coward or a pansy. You like those ad hom attacks, right?

Makes you feel powerful, huh, pig?
Real classy.

Hey, dumbass, your link proved OUR point. Egyptian oil doesn't mean shit to us, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, thats where we get ours.

You get more stoo stoo stuu stupider by the fucking post haha!

 

[Article 15]

What many Americans fail to understand is "They are NOT us".

Many Americans, especially the right actually believes the rhetoric, "They hate us for our freedom". It has been repeated ad nauseum until the average American believes it's true. Like, "Obama is a socialist/Kenynan/Muslim" until even some Democrats believe it. Or "Obama took a two hundred million dollar a day trip".

America needs to "STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST".

Look at what happened in Iran. The Shah was kicked out, and the country became a hard right Islamic Theocracy the first chance they got. Republicans with the forced help of Democrats invaded Iraq and destroyed those people's government and the first time they vote, they vote into office a hard right Islamic Theocracy. It's even written into their constitution. You only need to read Article II to know that to be true.

Now America is saying Egypt must have "freedom" to vote and look at what they will vote into office. You can guarantee it will be a hard right Islamic Theocracy. Those people are wired that way.

In fact, if our freedoms weren't protected by our constitution, the religious right would create a hard right Christian Theocracy here. That's what the religious do. Because they do it for "Gawd".

If we weren't dependent on ME oil and if we stayed out of their affairs, this is what would happen:

Either:

They would become a democracy, which would end up making us safer.

Or:

They would become a religious theocracy, which would mean they are anti science and would be no threat to us. Science and religion don't mix. We know that looking at our own right wing.

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

Gimme a fuggin' break. More than half the Dems in Congress managed to "resist" being "forced" to vote for the AUMF Iraq.

 

[bucs90]

What many Americans fail to understand is "They are NOT us".

Many Americans, especially the right actually believes the rhetoric, "They hate us for our freedom". It has been repeated ad nauseum until the average American believes it's true. Like, "Obama is a socialist/Kenynan/Muslim" until even some Democrats believe it. Or "Obama took a two hundred million dollar a day trip".

America needs to "STAY OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST".

Look at what happened in Iran. The Shah was kicked out, and the country became a hard right Islamic Theocracy the first chance they got. Republicans with the forced help of Democrats invaded Iraq and destroyed those people's government and the first time they vote, they vote into office a hard right Islamic Theocracy. It's even written into their constitution. You only need to read Article II to know that to be true.

Now America is saying Egypt must have "freedom" to vote and look at what they will vote into office. You can guarantee it will be a hard right Islamic Theocracy. Those people are wired that way.

In fact, if our freedoms weren't protected by our constitution, the religious right would create a hard right Christian Theocracy here. That's what the religious do. Because they do it for "Gawd".

If we weren't dependent on ME oil and if we stayed out of their affairs, this is what would happen:

Either:

They would become a democracy, which would end up making us safer.

Or:

They would become a religious theocracy, which would mean they are anti science and would be no threat to us. Science and religion don't mix. We know that looking at our own right wing.

This is why America needs to invest in our future and get us off foreign oil. Anything else will once again lead to disaster.

Gimme a fuggin' break. More than half the Dems in Congress managed to "resist" being "forced" to vote for the AUMF Iraq.

Plus, if Dem's are THAT fucking spineless that we can force them to vote yes for something they hate, without using any actual force, then they are too cowardly to run this great nation anyway.

Sorry Dems, the world is getting crazy, time to step aside and let the men have the wheel again.

 

[30x90]

Your stupidity does show no limits.

Oil is traded on a global market. We import most of ours from Mexico and Canada.

But, if the Mid East oil flow is disrupted, it disrupts the global supply, thus the global price, and then of course our bottom line.

You think you're an economist, too, huh pig?
U.S. Oil Imports by Country of Origin - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com


I think you are confused..(by a sugar rush from too many donuts?)..This is all unrelated gibberish.

Oh, and you can not say "We" referring to the United States. You're a fucking dipshit, coward traitor who fled the country because you couldn't hack it in a competitive atmosphere you pansy. Tell us how the 3rd world markets are doing. After that, STFU.

I never fled any country, I'm not a coward or a pansy. You like those ad hom attacks, right?

Makes you feel powerful, huh, pig?
Real classy.

My memory is superior to yours. You claimed in another thread you left this country and found a better home in another. Caught you in a lie you fag. STFU. You're amateur.

Yes, I'm a pig, yum, gimme more donuts, I need more fat! You can't offend me pussy, I know I'm more man than you'll ever be, so let the insults fly! I love it!

Fuck off asshole pig. I never made any such claims. You're a fucking lying punk.

Post the thread where I said any of those things you claim...little punk ass bitch.
I hope you act this way when you make routine stops, pig...your day will come.

C'mon, lying bitch..post the thread...
It doesn't exist, fucktard..but I know you're too much of a punk to admit you were wrong..and apologize...pig.

 

[Dr.Drock]

No, there is one more tiny, teeny weeny difference.

They, and by they I mean MUSLIMS, a disturbing percentage of THEM, again, I mean MUSLIMS, tend to strap bombs to themselves and explode themselves in groups of strangers to get a point across, hoping THEY take as many of us (non Muslims) to the grave as possible.

But other than that tiny detail, sure, they're like us.

Please educate me on what that percentage is of muslims who strap bombs to themselves.

Poor uneducated middle easterners born in ghettos strap bombs to themselves and kill people, poor uneducated americans become gang bangers and kill people in drive bys and during criminal activity. The only difference is one is scarier to you and the ppl committing these terrible acts don't share your religion. Both strategies end up with innocent people dead.

Imagine how stupid it would be for me to claim a "disturbing percentage of christians are murdering gang bangers", but with the way our media molds people's brains you can see why people think they way they do. Imagine if everytime a christian gang member killed someone they had their face put on tv with the subtitle "fanatical christian terrorist strikes again" like we do with muslims.

I'm just so thankful that I'm not a member of any of these disgusting groups (muslim, democrat, christian, republican, etc etc).

Wrong. For one, the drive by shooters, evil as they are, have a specific target. Stray bullets do happen, but they have a target. You don't see Bloods or Crips strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up a mall. They just wanna shoot the homeboys who stole their dope. HUGE difference.

The 9-11 bombers, and lots of recent wannabes who tried, had good educations and money. Osama Bin Laden is a millionaire. The attempted NYC times square bomber had a house, middle class job, good life. But jihad called louder. Thats a liberal myth that terrorists are only poor Muslims. Many middle class and even wealthy Muslims crave jihad.

Lastly, Christians aren't killing gangbangers. And, if some of the gangbangers are Christians, and kill, they did it because of drugs or money. NOT because of religion. Unless the Bloods and Crips believe 72 virgins await them for blowing themselves up?

Islam has a radical mental cancer that it is in denial about.

Several studies have been done on what % of Muslims in any sector of the country are jihadists. Some are up to 40%. Google it, I'm not here to educate you.

But I can give you a ballpark % of how many suicide bombers are Muslim? What, 95% or more? Unless you include the Japs in WW2, the Muslims have a monopoly on exploding themselves among innocent people.

People who are stupid enough to think blowing yourself up gets you into super heaven are terrorists, so yes it is caused by uneducated idiots, similar to people being stupid enough to think evolution didn't happen, just one stance is causes more immoral things to happen but both are equally stupid.

I don't care about motivation, people murder because they're uneducated and don't have money, jihadists, gang bangers, both have a lot in common.

All religions share a stance of denying basic facts, ignoring moral codes to do God's work and blind "faith". These aren't things that only the muslim faith is associated with.

You said people who strap bombs to themselves, not jihadists. There's billions of muslims. That "disturbing" percentage of muslims who strap bombs to themselves is probably in the area of .00001%.

How about looking in the mirror? Maybe you should be "disturbed" by the percentage of christians who become gang banging murderers. Maybe you should be "disturbed" by the percentage of christian marriage that ends in divorce. Maybe you should be "disturbed" by the percentage of christian leaders who rape little boys. These are all percentages astronomically higher than the percentage you're so "disturbed" by.

But wait a minute, that would cause personal accountability to overcome ignorant racism and finger pointing, we wouldn't want that.