Dutch experiences with F-35

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From an article "Out Of The Shadows: RNLAF experiences with the F-35A" which can be googled to find in PDF format.

It's interesting in that a lot of the speculation about SAR capabilities of the AN/APG-81 radar and how it could be used to support ground forces are validated. An F-35 can map the terrain through the clouds and use it's database to identify targets by their shape, all from altitude and through the clouds.

There is also talk from USMC that DAS has been used to monitor gunfire muzzle flashes, F-35 then automatically uses EOTS and terrain data to geolocate source so info can be passed to friendlies on the ground. That could have some serious implications for everything from CAS to counter-battery fire.

VMF gives us options for supporting ground forces in a way we never had in the F-16. Instead of using voice radios and getting eyes on the target using a targeting pod close-in, we're able to use the SAR to make images of the target area and generate very accurate target co-ordinates. We pass these to the ground forces and confirm a target location using VMF from beyond visual range, assuring that enemy forces are not alerted to our air presence. All the while we can be flying in pretty bad weather with long on-station times. This would have been impossible to do with our F-16s'

'In the debrief 'Niki' told us it was one of the most memorable sorties he had ever flown. Having previously worked in the F-35 program office he was elated to find out how effective the F-35 was, but at the same time he was frustrated by not getting a single shot off the rail against us, while getting killed multiple times. After that sortie it really hit us that the F-35 was going to make a big difference in how we operate fighters and other assets in the Royal Netherlands Air Force'.


And more on WVR combat. Even most of the plane's detractors have now admitted it will likely dominate in BVR situations (well, except for the village idiot of the forum ManOnTheStreet who now just ignores everything that proves how foolish he has been) but the Dutch are having no problems WVR either due to superior AOA capabilities.

The F-35 is a very different aircraft, and it took pilots a while to adjust and figure out how to max-perform it. What didn't help is that until about 18 months ago we were restricted in envelope, which meant we couldn't pull as much G as we wanted to, nor fly with high-alpha. It was an eye-opener for all of us when those restrictions were lifted and we finally got to see the full potential. Actually, it was an eye-opener for a lot of adversary pilots as well.'

The F-35 is far larger than the F-16, and it carries twice as much fuel and three times the payload. 'Consequently the F-35 loses energy a bit faster than the F-16 at higher speeds,' continues Knight. 'But the slow-speed handling is amazing. The F-35 pilot has the option to continuously point the nose at the adversary, even at ridiculously slow speeds, which is a great capability to have in combination with high off-boresight missiles and a helmet-mounted sight. You need to be careful manoeuvring the aircraft at higher speeds, because if you keep pulling back on the stick the aircraft will give you as much alpha as it can, but it will bleed a lot of energy in the process. It's up to the pilot to recognise when to try to maintain airspeed and energy and when to give that away to prosecute with missiles or guns. I typically tell new pilots that the F-35 sits somewhere in between the F-16 and F/A-18 when it comes to within visual range manoeuvring'.

Knight divulged a little more information about flying basic fighter manoeuvres (BFM) in an F-35. 'When our envelope was cleared to practise BFM we got the opportunity to fight some fourth-generation fighters. Remember, back the rumors were that the F-35 was a pig. The first time the opponents showed up [in the training area] they had wing tanks along with a bunch of missiles. I guess they figured that being in a dirty configuration wouldn't really matter and that they would still easily outmanoeuvre us. By the end of the week, though, they had dropped their wing tanks, transitioned to a single centerline fuel tank and were still doing everything they could not to get gunned by us. A week later they stripped the jets clean of all external stores, which made the BFM fights interesting, to say the least...


And on the payload/range, two things it's been criticized for....

'High-G manoeuvring is fun, but having high fuel capacity and the ability to carry lots of stores is great too. During the weeks when we were flying BFM we also needed to drop a GBU-12 [laser-guided bomb] on the China Lake weapons range. Back in our F-16 days we'd have had to choose, since there is no way you can BFM with a bomb on your wing, let alone having the fuel to fly both missions in a single sortie. With the F-35, however, this isn't much of an issue. On one of the sorties, my colleague, Maj Pascal 'Smiley' Smaal, decided he would fly BFM and still have enough fuel to go to the range afterwards and drop his weapon. During the debrief, the adversary pilot told us he was confused as to why we went to the range after the fight. When 'Smiley' told him that he was carrying an inert GBU-12 the entire time and that he then dropped it afterwards during a test event, the silence on the other end of the line was golden'.

Just more propaganda eh? We can only believe authors in blogs who have never even served in the military, since all these anecdotes are lies lies lies.
 
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