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Ah yes, back to Obama bashing. That's what this thread is about.Create doubt when you have no other arguement. That is the way of small minds.
Our President has had some very real successes in his first two years in office. The Repukes want us to forget that, for they fought every single good thing done, including the New GI Bill.
Next, Stephanie and Frank will be trotting out the Birth Certificate arguement.
Talk about trying to derail a thread from the subject it is about.
and I'd say the polls showing the Obama in the 40% approval rating in JUST TWO YEARS isn't showing, SOME VERY REAL SUCCESSES.
Create doubt when you have no other arguement. That is the way of small minds.
Our President has had some very real successes in his first two years in office. The Repukes want us to forget that, for they fought every single good thing done, including the New GI Bill.
Next, Stephanie and Frank will be trotting out the Birth Certificate arguement.
Talk about trying to derail a thread from the subject it is about.
and I'd say the polls showing the Obama in the 40% approval rating with the Amercian people in JUST TWO YEARS isn't showing, SOME VERY REAL SUCCESSES.
I would say that given the circumstances and the shit pile inherited from the Republicans, that is a pretty high rating.
Our President's chief mistake is trying to work with the Republicans. He should have take the Lyndon Johnson approach just as soon as the Repukes made it known that they were going to stonewall him on every single item. You don't deal nice with unnice people.
Talk about trying to derail a thread from the subject it is about.
and I'd say the polls showing the Obama in the 40% approval rating with the Amercian people in JUST TWO YEARS isn't showing, SOME VERY REAL SUCCESSES.
I would say that given the circumstances and the shit pile inherited from the Republicans, that is a pretty high rating.
Our President's chief mistake is trying to work with the Republicans. He should have take the Lyndon Johnson approach just as soon as the Repukes made it known that they were going to stonewall him on every single item. You don't deal nice with unnice people.
well we all know you Democrats wouldn't mind living under a DICTATOR. but unfortunately for you we do have a Republican party..
Ah yes, back to Obama bashing. That's what this thread is about.Create doubt when you have no other arguement. That is the way of small minds.
Our President has had some very real successes in his first two years in office. The Repukes want us to forget that, for they fought every single good thing done, including the New GI Bill.
Next, Stephanie and Frank will be trotting out the Birth Certificate arguement.
Talk about trying to derail a thread from the subject it is about.and I'd say the polls showing the Obama in the 40% approval rating in JUST TWO YEARS isn't showing, SOME VERY REAL SUCCESSES.
In the historical scheme of things, Obama's approval ratings are comparable to other presidents.Presidential Approval Ratings History - Interactive Comparison Graph - WSJ.com Check out the link for comparisons.
Get off your prejudice high horse and find valid arguments as to why you don't like him.
Ah yes, back to Obama bashing. That's what this thread is about.Talk about trying to derail a thread from the subject it is about.and I'd say the polls showing the Obama in the 40% approval rating in JUST TWO YEARS isn't showing, SOME VERY REAL SUCCESSES.
In the historical scheme of things, Obama's approval ratings are comparable to other presidents.Presidential Approval Ratings History - Interactive Comparison Graph - WSJ.com Check out the link for comparisons.
Get off your prejudice high horse and find valid arguments as to why you don't like him.
speaking of riding HIGH HORES^^^^^^^
here's a clue, get over YOUR high and mighty SELF.
interesting read..links in article.
SNIP:
On the eve of the 2008 election, veteran newsman Tom Brokaw famously declared that we don’t know Barack Obama. The astonishing admission occurred during a discussion on the Charlie Rose Show, and fellow veteran newsman Charlie Rose agreed wholeheartedly with Brokaw’s admitted ignorance of the man they both wanted to see elected to the most powerful office on earth:
Shortly after the election, CNN’s Jonathan Mann wrote that Americans “are putting a lot of faith in a man they barely know.” This was true and, perhaps unintentionally, quite a powerful indictment of his employer.
YouTube - Brokaw and Rose Admit They Don't Know Much About Obama.
Shortly after the election, CNN’s Jonathan Mann wrote that Americans “are putting a lot of faith in a man they barely know.” This was true and, perhaps unintentionally, quite a powerful indictment of his employer.
The idea of Tom Brokaw, former anchor of one of the Big Three nightly newscasts and one of America’s most prolific news anchors, a man steeped in American politics for decades on end, declaring that “we don’t understand the universe” of Obama’s thinking was incredible at the time. We had by then come to know of Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his peculiar race-centric Chicago church. We had by then come to know of Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, the unrepentant 1960s radical terrorist who had openly lamented that he and his ilk hadn’t committed enough violence against America to end the Vietnam war. We had, by November 2008, already come to know of Obama’s past work with ACORN, the corrupt community organizing group, and we already knew that he planned to continue and elevate ACORN’s work as president. Those of us who paid close attention knew that in his books Obama himself had confessed to associating with the radicals and Marxists on campus during his college days. We already knew all of this, yet Brokaw, Rose, and Mann were to some extent right to say that we still didn’t really know the universe of Obama’s thinking.
Nearly 20 months into the Obama presidency, it’s finally becoming clear just how little about Obama we and the media that covered him really understood about him. Fifty-two percent of America elected a dream, but they didn’t know whose dream they were putting in the White House or what sort of personality would drive that dream.
the rest and comments.
Pajamas Media Dreams from his Father: Obama as Petulant Anticolonialist
Ah yes, back to Obama bashing. That's what this thread is about.
In the historical scheme of things, Obama's approval ratings are comparable to other presidents.Presidential Approval Ratings History - Interactive Comparison Graph - WSJ.com Check out the link for comparisons.
Get off your prejudice high horse and find valid arguments as to why you don't like him.
speaking of riding HIGH HORES^^^^^^^
here's a clue, get over YOUR high and mighty SELF.
This whole argument of not knowing "enough" about Obama is a backdoor way of emphasizing Obama's differentness, therefore is foreignness and lack of similarity in thought and culture to "mainstream America."interesting read..links in article.
SNIP:
On the eve of the 2008 election, veteran newsman Tom Brokaw famously declared that we dont know Barack Obama. The astonishing admission occurred during a discussion on the Charlie Rose Show, and fellow veteran newsman Charlie Rose agreed wholeheartedly with Brokaws admitted ignorance of the man they both wanted to see elected to the most powerful office on earth:
Shortly after the election, CNNs Jonathan Mann wrote that Americans are putting a lot of faith in a man they barely know. This was true and, perhaps unintentionally, quite a powerful indictment of his employer.
YouTube - Brokaw and Rose Admit They Don't Know Much About Obama.
Shortly after the election, CNNs Jonathan Mann wrote that Americans are putting a lot of faith in a man they barely know. This was true and, perhaps unintentionally, quite a powerful indictment of his employer.
The idea of Tom Brokaw, former anchor of one of the Big Three nightly newscasts and one of Americas most prolific news anchors, a man steeped in American politics for decades on end, declaring that we dont understand the universe of Obamas thinking was incredible at the time. We had by then come to know of Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his peculiar race-centric Chicago church. We had by then come to know of Obamas relationship with William Ayers, the unrepentant 1960s radical terrorist who had openly lamented that he and his ilk hadnt committed enough violence against America to end the Vietnam war. We had, by November 2008, already come to know of Obamas past work with ACORN, the corrupt community organizing group, and we already knew that he planned to continue and elevate ACORNs work as president. Those of us who paid close attention knew that in his books Obama himself had confessed to associating with the radicals and Marxists on campus during his college days. We already knew all of this, yet Brokaw, Rose, and Mann were to some extent right to say that we still didnt really know the universe of Obamas thinking.
Nearly 20 months into the Obama presidency, its finally becoming clear just how little about Obama we and the media that covered him really understood about him. Fifty-two percent of America elected a dream, but they didnt know whose dream they were putting in the White House or what sort of personality would drive that dream.
the rest and comments.
Pajamas Media Dreams from his Father: Obama as Petulant Anticolonialist
Since when is being anti-colonialist a bad thing? I and all of my pol sci professors are anti-colonialist as we all agree that colonialism has caused more suffering, misery, destruction and death of vast populations than pretty much anything else (well, with the exception of religion). Actually, every single person with a brain that I know is anti-colonialist. Why would a thinking black man be for it? Just THINK about it. I won't spell it out for ya.
Besides that - who has ever known any of the presidential candidates 'fully' before them being elected? I knew about Clinton or Bush as much as I know about Obama - this is not a point, this is total BS.
This whole thread is just a laughable attempt at Obama-bashing. Come up with real arguments and points. Whit stooooopid shit like this you just make yourself look like an absolute idiot.
Howgh.
speaking of riding HIGH HORES^^^^^^^
here's a clue, get over YOUR high and mighty SELF.
what, hit a nerve for showing you to be the jerk you are...
Only REPUBLICANS could envision any benefits to colonialism.....
"In 1945, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam was formed with Ho Chi Minh as the first President. American planes flew over Hanoi in celebration of the founding. The Vietnamese Declaration of Independence echoed that of the U.S.: "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...This immortal statement is extracted from the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America in 1776. Understood in the broader sense this means: All people on earth are born equal. Every person has the right to live, to be happy, and free."
Ho Chi Minh asked the Americans to honor their commitment to independence, citing the Atlantic Charter and the U.N. Charter on self-determination. However, by the end of the war, the U.S. government had begun to redirect its foreign policy from the wartime goal of the liberation of all occupied countries and colonies to the postwar anti-communist crusade, which became the Cold War. In France, where communists had led the resistance to the Nazi occupation, American policy supported General Charles de Gaulle and his anti-communist "Free French." De Gaulle aimed to restore the glory of France, which meant the return of all former French colonies. U.S. relations with the Vietnamese turned sour. President Truman refused to answer letters or cables from Ho. Instead, the U.S. began to ship military aid to the French forces in Indochina."
Yeah.....whatta great talking-point, Republicans.......Pro-Colonialism.
you are one priceless nut job.what the hell does this article have TO DO WITH Republicans?..
What did we know about Bush before he was elected? I mean it's not like Obama appeared out of thin air. He was an Illinois state senator, then a U.S. senator. I still contend that the only way someone could keep saying "we don't know enough about this guy" is through willful ignorance.
What did we know about Bush before he was elected? I mean it's not like Obama appeared out of thin air. He was an Illinois state senator, then a U.S. senator. I still contend that the only way someone could keep saying "we don't know enough about this guy" is through willful ignorance.
interesting read..links in article.
SNIP:
Since when is being anti-colonialist a bad thing? I and all of my pol sci professors are anti-colonialist as we all agree that colonialism has caused more suffering, misery, destruction and death of vast populations than pretty much anything else (well, with the exception of religion). Actually, every single person with a brain that I know is anti-colonialist. Why would a thinking black man be for it? Just THINK about it. I won't spell it out for ya.
Besides that - who has ever known any of the presidential candidates 'fully' before them being elected? I knew about Clinton or Bush as much as I know about Obama - this is not a point, this is total BS.
This whole thread is just a laughable attempt at Obama-bashing. Come up with real arguments and points. Whit stooooopid shit like this you just make yourself look like an absolute idiot.
Howgh.
Create doubt when you have no other arguement. That is the way of small minds.
Our President has had some very real successes in his first two years in office. The Repukes want us to forget that, for they fought every single good thing done, including the New GI Bill.
Next, Stephanie and Frank will be trotting out the Birth Certificate arguement.
) , becasue, they have a vested interest in him.
The USA has been electing people we bearly knew since Ike left office.
Yeah, Brokaw, someone should have investigated Obama, talked with his friends and mentors and reported back to us, and I mean someone besides Sean Hannity who seemed to be the only person doing just that
What did you know of him before he ran for president other than that fact?What did we know about Bush before he was elected? I mean it's not like Obama appeared out of thin air. He was an Illinois state senator, then a U.S. senator. I still contend that the only way someone could keep saying "we don't know enough about this guy" is through willful ignorance.
he was the gov. of Texas for 5 years, hello?
Texas is a microcosm of the country?The first or second largest sate in the union? You realize that there is a reason why a huge preponderance of past C in C's have been governors?....states are to an extent a microcosm of the country.
Keep telling yourself that... Don't mess with U.S.A.!
what do you know about Obamas legislative record in the Illinois state leg.?
what did he vote or not vote for?
What were his stances on....;
State Budgets ( financial/fiscal responsibility)?
Criime ( Law Enforcement)?
Health care ?
Education?
Guns?
Housing?
go ahead, have fun finding out, we'll still be here..... we'll see you a couple of weeks from now, don't forget to write!!!.
What did we know about Bush before he was elected? I mean it's not like Obama appeared out of thin air. He was an Illinois state senator, then a U.S. senator. I still contend that the only way someone could keep saying "we don't know enough about this guy" is through willful ignorance.
His last name was "Bush", what more did we need to know?
