Dont mess with Polish girls.

Poland is proposing to ban ALL abortions. Period. That means rape, incest and if the mother's life is in danger. This is barbaric and regressive :(

Polish Women Hold 'Black Monday' Strike To Protest Proposed Abortion Ban

In Poland, abortion is already illegal except in cases of rape, incest, danger to the mother's life or irreparable damage to a fetus. The legislature is now proposing an absolute ban, carrying jail time of up to five years for both women and their doctors no matter the circumstances of the abortion, The Associated Press reports.

A professor of gender studies at Warsaw University told the National Catholic Reporter earlier this summer that in addition to criminalizing all abortions, the proposed change in the law could also cause women to be imprisoned for a miscarriage if they couldn't prove it was not induced.

Miscarriages could lead to a prison term of up to three years, Elzbieta Korolczuk told the publication.


Korolczuk also told the NCR the law would make doctors afraid to intervene in ectopic pregnancies — when a fertilized egg implants outside the uterus, a situation that is dangerous for the mother and almost always fatal for the fetus. Reuters reports that some critics have said the law would even discourage doctors from doing prenatal tests, if they carried the risk of miscarriage.


For months, activists in Poland have expressed concerns about the prospect of a total abortion ban.


The conservative Law and Justice Party, a nationalist, pro-Catholic, Euroskeptic and anti-immigrant party, won control of Poland's parliament last year. The party also controls the presidency, and soon moved to curtail the power of Poland's constitutional court. Canada's CBC writes that the party then took control of public broadcasting in Poland.


As NPR wrote in December, after the constraints on the judicial branch were imposed, some women's rights groups in Poland worried that the party would use its consolidated power to criminalize abortion and restrict sex education.


Now the abortion ban is officially on the table.


What kind of mother is going to kill her child if it comes between the two?

Besides rape, incest, and mothers life is such a small percentage. It's irrelevant.

And there are avenues for women to give up any unwanted children.

Let's also not forget the mental health concern of women post abortion. It's a real concern and leads to a life of anti depressants.
 
Poland must do it to keep their heritage by making sure Polish nationals would not be a minority in their own country before the Muslims take it from them.

So they're going to accomplish this by turning women into breeders. How civilized.
See post # 22

See the OP. A woman in Poland wouldn't even be able to get an abortion if her life was in danger, if she was raped or a victim of incest.

If they are doing it for their "heritage" they are turning women into breeders pure and simple.

In order to produce your next generation you must breed, we women give life to the next generation.

Are you suggesting that it's better if we just don't breed anymore? Is it more better for society that women just have abortions as a means of contraception?

I already have many times stated my opinion on abortion, that I'm anti-abortion with the exceptions of where the life of the mother is in danger and in the cases of rape and incest, but NOT Abortion on Demand as a means on contraception.

The Leftists across the planet can't get enough of murdering babies as they slumber in the womb, because that's what using abortion as contraception is, Leftists support that women should just be able to have the baby killed because that's the woman's choice as it's her body.

No within that woman's body she has another life and choosing to destroy that life is this:

Feticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Women have a right to decide what is best for them. No woman has a duty to reproduce in order to benefit society. That is a bizarre Nazi belief.

So there is no other way to prevent being pregnant other than abortion?

Since the nazi's supported the same eugenics movement you are supporting right now it would be appropriate to say that you have a bizarre Nazi belief.
 
Poland is too catholic.
What's the matter with abortion? It's not compulsory.
If you want to abort you can do it, if you don't want to you're free to have your baby :)

When you "abort" you are killing your baby. It doesn't just become your baby to those who decide they don't have the stomach to kill a baby.
 
"As Bormann hoped, that evening Hitler chose the second policy
and the next day he told Bormann to issue population control measures
for the occupied territories. Bormann developed an eight-paragraph
secret order that one historian termed "perhaps the most extreme
policy statement ever issued from the Fuhrerhauptquartier."[4] It
included the following:

"When girls and women in the Occupied Territories of the
East have abortions, we can only be in favor of it; in
any case we should not oppose it. The Fuhrer believes
that we should authorize the development of a thriving
trade in contraceptives. We are not interested in seeing
the non-German population multiply.[5]"



https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
 
"
Propaganda

"German experts developed plans to insure cooperation. On 27 April
1942 in Berlin, Professor Wetzel issued a memorandum that included
the following:

Every propaganda means, especially the press, radio, and
movies, as well as pamphlets, booklets, and lectures,
must be used to instill in the Russian population the
idea that it is harmful to have several children. We must
emphasize the expenses that children cause, the good
things that people could have had with the money spent on
them. We could also hint at the dangerous effect of child-
bearing on a woman's health.

Paralleling such propaganda, a large-scale campaign would
be launched in favor of contraceptive devices. A
contraceptive industry must be established. Neither the
circulation and sale of contraceptives nor abortions must
be prosecuted.

It will even be necessary to open special institutions
for abortion, and to train midwives and nurses for this
purpose. The population will practice abortion all the
more willingly if these institutions are competently
operated. The doctors must be able to help out there
being any question of this being a breach of their
professional ethics. Voluntary sterilization must also be
recommended by propaganda.[10]

Local physicians were to be told that these abortions were for the
woman's benefit. A decree issued by Himmler in March 1943 stressed
this point:

The Russian physicians or the Russian Medical
Association, which must not be informed of this order,
are to be told in individual cases that the pregnancy is
being interrupted for reasons of social distress. It must
be explained in such a way that no conclusions to the
existence of a definite order may be drawn.[11]

German authorities were careful to note, however, that as long as
births could be prevented, sexual behavior need not be restricted. A
1944 memorandum noted:

In order to round out his propaganda in a practical way
contraceptives should be quietly distributed (with the
Reich bearing the cost). There is no harm in leaving a
valve open to the natural desires of the persons of alien
blood as long as this will not interfere with cutting off
the flow of reproduction among these people of alien
race.[12]

Promoting Pornography

In practice, German authorities went far beyond "leaving a valve
open" for sexual promiscuity. They deliberately flooded Eastern
Europe with pornography in order to destroy it culturally,
politically and spiritually. One historian describes the process this
way:

The German Propaganda Office. . . was supposed to
organize or sponsor Polish burlesque shows and publish
cheap literature, strongly erotic in nature. . . . to
keep the masses on a low level and to divert their
interest from political aspirations. These projects for
degeneration and moral debasement were actually realized
in the larger Polish cities. . . . German success in this
effort was significant enough to become a target of the
Polish Underground. The latter used to dispatch some
special "punishing squads" which overran some of the ill-
famed Variety Theaters and took disciplinary measures
against the Polish collaborators in the programs.[13]"

https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
 
So they're going to accomplish this by turning women into breeders. How civilized.
See post # 22

See the OP. A woman in Poland wouldn't even be able to get an abortion if her life was in danger, if she was raped or a victim of incest.

If they are doing it for their "heritage" they are turning women into breeders pure and simple.

In order to produce your next generation you must breed, we women give life to the next generation.

Are you suggesting that it's better if we just don't breed anymore? Is it more better for society that women just have abortions as a means of contraception?

I already have many times stated my opinion on abortion, that I'm anti-abortion with the exceptions of where the life of the mother is in danger and in the cases of rape and incest, but NOT Abortion on Demand as a means on contraception.

The Leftists across the planet can't get enough of murdering babies as they slumber in the womb, because that's what using abortion as contraception is, Leftists support that women should just be able to have the baby killed because that's the woman's choice as it's her body.

No within that woman's body she has another life and choosing to destroy that life is this:

Feticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Women have a right to decide what is best for them. No woman has a duty to reproduce in order to benefit society. That is a bizarre Nazi belief.

So there is no other way to prevent being pregnant other than abortion?

Since the nazi's supported the same eugenics movement you are supporting right now it would be appropriate to say that you have a bizarre Nazi belief.
Thats weak even for you.
 
"
Within Germany itself, Hitler had long advocated government- funded
birth control to weed out the 'unfit.' In his 1924 Mein Kampf, Hitler
wrote that one of the seven major responsibilities of government was,
"to maintain the practice of modern birth control. No diseased or
weak person should be allowed to have children."[32]

On subjects such as eugenics, sterilization, and abortion, Nazi
ideology had much in common with the leftist birth control and
sex-reform groups of the era (British and American as well as
German). As Anita Grossman notes, "The stress on eugenics and race
hygiene was typical of the sex- reform groups and suggests a complex
ambivalent relationship between right-wing nationalist population
policy and leftist sex reform."[33]

Grossman points out that during 1931 the Hamburg RV (a sex-reform
group closely associated with the Social Democratic Party) held a
series of lectures on subjects such as "Introduction to Population
Politics," "Race Theory, Eugenics, and Sterilization," and "The
Elimination of Unfit Life." (The latter refers to legalized killing
of retarded, senile and mentally-ill people.)

Once in power, Hitler quickly acted to reduce the birth rates of
the genetically 'unfit' (including, of course, the Jews).
Sterilization came first with the Law for the Prevention of Progeny
with Hereditary Diseases issued on 14 July 1933.34 During the Nazi
regime between 320,000 and 350,000 people would be sterilized with at
least 100 people, mostly women, dying during the procedure.[35]

Abortion came next. In September of 1934 Hitler told Dr. Wagner,
Reich Physicians' Leader, that "pregnancies could be terminated in
the case of hereditary ill women, or women who had become pregnant by
a hereditary ill partner."[36] Formal legalization came a year later
on 26 June 1935 with an amendment legalizing abortion up to
viability."

Those are the Taint's homies awright.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
 
"
Within Germany itself, Hitler had long advocated government- funded
birth control to weed out the 'unfit.' In his 1924 Mein Kampf, Hitler
wrote that one of the seven major responsibilities of government was,
"to maintain the practice of modern birth control. No diseased or
weak person should be allowed to have children."[32]

On subjects such as eugenics, sterilization, and abortion, Nazi
ideology had much in common with the leftist birth control and
sex-reform groups of the era (British and American as well as
German). As Anita Grossman notes, "The stress on eugenics and race
hygiene was typical of the sex- reform groups and suggests a complex
ambivalent relationship between right-wing nationalist population
policy and leftist sex reform."[33]

Grossman points out that during 1931 the Hamburg RV (a sex-reform
group closely associated with the Social Democratic Party) held a
series of lectures on subjects such as "Introduction to Population
Politics," "Race Theory, Eugenics, and Sterilization," and "The
Elimination of Unfit Life." (The latter refers to legalized killing
of retarded, senile and mentally-ill people.)

Once in power, Hitler quickly acted to reduce the birth rates of
the genetically 'unfit' (including, of course, the Jews).
Sterilization came first with the Law for the Prevention of Progeny
with Hereditary Diseases issued on 14 July 1933.34 During the Nazi
regime between 320,000 and 350,000 people would be sterilized with at
least 100 people, mostly women, dying during the procedure.[35]

Abortion came next. In September of 1934 Hitler told Dr. Wagner,
Reich Physicians' Leader, that "pregnancies could be terminated in
the case of hereditary ill women, or women who had become pregnant by
a hereditary ill partner."[36] Formal legalization came a year later
on 26 June 1935 with an amendment legalizing abortion up to
viability."

Those are the Taint's homies awright.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
Have you all had an e mail from opresswomen.com ?
 
"
Within Germany itself, Hitler had long advocated government- funded
birth control to weed out the 'unfit.' In his 1924 Mein Kampf, Hitler
wrote that one of the seven major responsibilities of government was,
"to maintain the practice of modern birth control. No diseased or
weak person should be allowed to have children."[32]

On subjects such as eugenics, sterilization, and abortion, Nazi
ideology had much in common with the leftist birth control and
sex-reform groups of the era (British and American as well as
German). As Anita Grossman notes, "The stress on eugenics and race
hygiene was typical of the sex- reform groups and suggests a complex
ambivalent relationship between right-wing nationalist population
policy and leftist sex reform."[33]

Grossman points out that during 1931 the Hamburg RV (a sex-reform
group closely associated with the Social Democratic Party) held a
series of lectures on subjects such as "Introduction to Population
Politics," "Race Theory, Eugenics, and Sterilization," and "The
Elimination of Unfit Life." (The latter refers to legalized killing
of retarded, senile and mentally-ill people.)

Once in power, Hitler quickly acted to reduce the birth rates of
the genetically 'unfit' (including, of course, the Jews).
Sterilization came first with the Law for the Prevention of Progeny
with Hereditary Diseases issued on 14 July 1933.34 During the Nazi
regime between 320,000 and 350,000 people would be sterilized with at
least 100 people, mostly women, dying during the procedure.[35]

Abortion came next. In September of 1934 Hitler told Dr. Wagner,
Reich Physicians' Leader, that "pregnancies could be terminated in
the case of hereditary ill women, or women who had become pregnant by
a hereditary ill partner."[36] Formal legalization came a year later
on 26 June 1935 with an amendment legalizing abortion up to
viability."

Those are the Taint's homies awright.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
Have you all had an e mail from opresswomen.com ?

So you agree that abortion is about oppressing women.

I concur, but unlike you, I don't think a woman's primary purpose on this earth, and her only value, lies in having sex with men who don't value her, and then getting her uterus scraped so they don't have to support their children.
 
"
Within Germany itself, Hitler had long advocated government- funded
birth control to weed out the 'unfit.' In his 1924 Mein Kampf, Hitler
wrote that one of the seven major responsibilities of government was,
"to maintain the practice of modern birth control. No diseased or
weak person should be allowed to have children."[32]

On subjects such as eugenics, sterilization, and abortion, Nazi
ideology had much in common with the leftist birth control and
sex-reform groups of the era (British and American as well as
German). As Anita Grossman notes, "The stress on eugenics and race
hygiene was typical of the sex- reform groups and suggests a complex
ambivalent relationship between right-wing nationalist population
policy and leftist sex reform."[33]

Grossman points out that during 1931 the Hamburg RV (a sex-reform
group closely associated with the Social Democratic Party) held a
series of lectures on subjects such as "Introduction to Population
Politics," "Race Theory, Eugenics, and Sterilization," and "The
Elimination of Unfit Life." (The latter refers to legalized killing
of retarded, senile and mentally-ill people.)

Once in power, Hitler quickly acted to reduce the birth rates of
the genetically 'unfit' (including, of course, the Jews).
Sterilization came first with the Law for the Prevention of Progeny
with Hereditary Diseases issued on 14 July 1933.34 During the Nazi
regime between 320,000 and 350,000 people would be sterilized with at
least 100 people, mostly women, dying during the procedure.[35]

Abortion came next. In September of 1934 Hitler told Dr. Wagner,
Reich Physicians' Leader, that "pregnancies could be terminated in
the case of hereditary ill women, or women who had become pregnant by
a hereditary ill partner."[36] Formal legalization came a year later
on 26 June 1935 with an amendment legalizing abortion up to
viability."

Those are the Taint's homies awright.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
Have you all had an e mail from opresswomen.com ?

So you agree that abortion is about oppressing women.

I concur, but unlike you, I don't think a woman's primary purpose ony this earth, and her only value, lies in having sex with men who don't value her, and then getting her uterus scraped so they don't have to support their children.
No I dont agree with you about anything I can think of. Wind yer neck in and leave women to decide what they want to do with their own bodies.
 
"
Within Germany itself, Hitler had long advocated government- funded
birth control to weed out the 'unfit.' In his 1924 Mein Kampf, Hitler
wrote that one of the seven major responsibilities of government was,
"to maintain the practice of modern birth control. No diseased or
weak person should be allowed to have children."[32]

On subjects such as eugenics, sterilization, and abortion, Nazi
ideology had much in common with the leftist birth control and
sex-reform groups of the era (British and American as well as
German). As Anita Grossman notes, "The stress on eugenics and race
hygiene was typical of the sex- reform groups and suggests a complex
ambivalent relationship between right-wing nationalist population
policy and leftist sex reform."[33]

Grossman points out that during 1931 the Hamburg RV (a sex-reform
group closely associated with the Social Democratic Party) held a
series of lectures on subjects such as "Introduction to Population
Politics," "Race Theory, Eugenics, and Sterilization," and "The
Elimination of Unfit Life." (The latter refers to legalized killing
of retarded, senile and mentally-ill people.)

Once in power, Hitler quickly acted to reduce the birth rates of
the genetically 'unfit' (including, of course, the Jews).
Sterilization came first with the Law for the Prevention of Progeny
with Hereditary Diseases issued on 14 July 1933.34 During the Nazi
regime between 320,000 and 350,000 people would be sterilized with at
least 100 people, mostly women, dying during the procedure.[35]

Abortion came next. In September of 1934 Hitler told Dr. Wagner,
Reich Physicians' Leader, that "pregnancies could be terminated in
the case of hereditary ill women, or women who had become pregnant by
a hereditary ill partner."[36] Formal legalization came a year later
on 26 June 1935 with an amendment legalizing abortion up to
viability."

Those are the Taint's homies awright.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/NAZIPOPU.TXT
Have you all had an e mail from opresswomen.com ?

So you agree that abortion is about oppressing women.

I concur, but unlike you, I don't think a woman's primary purpose ony this earth, and her only value, lies in having sex with men who don't value her, and then getting her uterus scraped so they don't have to support their children.
No I dont agree with you about anything I can think of. Wind yer neck in and leave women to decide what they want to do with their own bodies.

Says the guy who toes the Nazi line when it comes to abortion.

"Tell der wimmin that they must haff the abortion!! Eef they are found to be pregnant, to the gas chambers!"
 

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