Domestic Destablization-psyops and infiltration of US GOV.

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    BTW, to start. I like this board. I feel the admin are real and that it's purposes are genuine. I've been on many, many boards arguing for 9-11 truth and have learned a great deal. I hope to share that meaningfully.

    Time to get sophisticated. Stop being herded as sheep with deceptions and manipulations. Do you know that the black budget includes spending for domestic uses that are not Constitutionally allowed have been happening for years and questioned by sincere legislators with occasional exposure?

    We've heard of "destabilization campaigns", consider, "Would infiltrators, if they existed, implement one in this nation in order to make insurrection easier?
    This manipulation goes back so far that we actually do not know what a free and un fettered society is, as far as I can tell. Our futures are at stake. So read carefully.

    Use critical thinking to understand that reality is comprised of evidence and reason. We can draw the line in this electronic environment and refuse to be manipulated, and IF we seek to preserve and protect our Constitution and there are many signs something is very wrong.

    We must each use or try to detect these manipulations just to see if such a notion bears merit, and the fact that such techniques are embraced by science and law for many centuries.

    This is about how to determine when you or your discussion are targeted. If you are able to see this is reasonable and seek to protect the Constitution, it will become implemented by a group of Americans very easily just by following simple rules that science and law have used for a long time with success.

    USAGE:
    Nothing trumps independently verified evidence particularly when it lends itself logically to explanation. I would say that it is common knowledge, but it is not. Errors can be commonly held, and are.
    Cognitive distortions are not allowed to justify something which can be shown to perhaps compromise the rule of law. They are allowed, minimally, after the basic point is well established with evidence and reason, to facilitate more efficient understanding of truths that protect life, the Constitution, rule of law, etc.
    Once a poster is labeled as one who refused to use evidence and support the rule of law with reason they are reported to admin and then banned by admin for 2 weeks. If they wish to return they do so but are on semi permanent probation unless they are able to reasonably substantiate their position at some time with independently verified evidence.

    A sincere American will always take the reasonable path with evidence and reason because the Constitution delineates that courts of law are what uphold rights. Therefore the citizens of a nation such as ours have a duty to employ what is needed to monitor courts, or be a jury, or a reasonable and law abiding citizen. The agents cannot do this.

    EXAMPLE:
    Here is a summary and example of the kind of manipulative techniques the psyops employs.

    The psyops uses technology of psychology and collusion to

    The above language is very typical for the post 9-11 psyops agent. I know for certain that they exist because I've been stalked for 5 years by them. I've proven that they will falsify evidence. As you've seen in this thread, there is no evidence which can be independently verified for the steel core columns that FEMA says occupied the core area. The same photos that show concrete prove no core columns.

    Accordingly the agents of the infiltrators, insurrectionist perpetrators of mass murder on American soil MUST fabricate something, anything, to materially oppose the truth.

    The language:

    What is utilized is part of a technique developed in the 1970's and is a part of the "delphi" technique which was developed to control the thinking and beliefs of scientists if possible, or that was it's most important application.

    It involves taking a group of scientists and placing them together. A few are actually posing as scientists with false credentials. They are very knowledgeable and versed in particular science so can immediately handle any question any true scientist could, and do within the manipulation of the group of scientists.

    The rand corp did these think tank studies starting in the 1960's. The basic idea is that a diversion from rationally established science is created by the planted agents by exploiting the unwitting scientists by exploitation of animal social instincts of the unconscious minds. Through brain studies over a number of decades it can be inferred that speech and listening always involved the left brain whereas writing and reading did not necessarily do so. The development of this technique included the first email type communications between these scientists, long before the internet.

    Aspects of established psychology identify a specific method that a human mind can use to justify certain behaviors or thought patterns within one persons mind. Those methods are generally called "Cognitive distortions". Here is a list which has been very slightly modified to include use by one person, upon another, to suggest or lead them into making distortions. The idea is that attitudes control perceptions, so the creation of an attitude is primary.

    1. All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories.
    2. Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous.
    3. Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.
    4. Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.
    5. Mind reading: One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.
    6. Fortune Telling: Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established fact.
    7. Catastrophizing: Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.
    8. Emotional reasoning: One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation.
    9. "Should" statements: Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.
    10. Labeling: Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.
    11. Personalization: Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.
    12. Entitlement: Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.

    In analysis of kwc57's language, which is almost so typical that some refer to as a "bot" answer.


    The above has the below cognitive distortions as implied complex elements of kwc57's statement;1, 4, 7, 8 & 12.
    1. wishes to set the readers perception of their patriotic position in maximum.
    4. The actual maximization working to minimize my position having tangibly and cognitively definable evidence.
    7. There is an implied disaster if others don't accept that kwc57 is correct because what I suggest is so scary.
    8. Love for the Constitution is a very emotional thing for soldiers and others who have made or seen sacrifices for rights and freedom guranteed by our Constitution.
    12. Because kwc57 is professing it's love for the Constitution by rejecting my scary information, there is the expectation that others will too.

    The above has the below cognitive distortions as implied complex elements of kwc57's statement;1, 11, 10, 4.
    1. The suggestion is that I only "believe" when the fact is that I can show with evidence.
    11. This is an inversion where kwc57 is trying to lead others into thinking their post is a legitimate and reasonable reaction to me and my information.
    10. "tin hat, black helicopter, conspiracy theories" is a common label used to minimize people by creating "cognitive dissonance".
    4. The assertion of "laughter" or ridicule is the flag of manipulation through social fears. kwc57 is trying to unconscious induce other to "not want to be laughed at."

    These people are trained at this and they have technology that is surprising. Get on a new chat board that has a bot keeping things busy. You'll be surprised at the degree of artificial intelligence that is there. Not that I believe kwc57 is a bot because bots are only used when there is very high traffic for the most part. Their mechanistic posts are too obvious to let them repeat. It is possible bots are used as peanut galleries or sidekicks by agents.
     
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    Did anyone notice that after this thread and the post in the oathkeeper thread, all posting opposing me stopped in the FEMA thread? That is normal after I start talking about my organized opposition. Please, entertain a little information about other scenes on the internet besides the one you inhabit regularly

    The internet is heavily populated with people/entities that have an agenda and who work together and share strategy. They are not ordinary citizens. They are also very predictable because they have an agenda.

    In other words an agent working for the infiltration must not assist the citizens in anyway to understand critical aspects of anything that is an interest of the infiltration. That is counter productive. Accordingly, when you make perfect sense and ask them to recognize it, they will not.

    Agents working for the infiltration take full advantage of sensational gossip or misinformation and toss it around to keep a forum looking busy with crap pinned to the top of the thread cue. They develop a little society and give each other praise or have little battles that appear petty, stupid and based on nothing or amounting to nothing no matter who wins. Ordinary adopt their style and join in every now and then, seeking interaction rather pitifully.

    In the truth movement there is a term, "false opposition". In other words, your ally, if you are in the movement is actually of the opposing force and falsely using misinformation as if it was real and meaningful in order to make the appearance of many citizens fighting for truth. "False opposition" often have arguments about whose information is better or more real when neither is real or even useful in anyway.

    A good example of this that those here who are not 9-11 truth seekers can relate to is the "no plane theory" (NPT), where agents or perhaps others controlled in ways we can only speculate upon, believe, or say they believe, that there were no planes and that all evidence of them is video fakery.

    Their opposition in the fake argument, theatre, believes there were planes but they were remote controlled. These two apparent wack jobs go back and forth endlessly.

    Believe it or not, but I feel that I actually defeated that weird and crazy scam/theatre, and I did it with simple logic. It goes like this.

    If there were no planes, then the towers were blown up and the perpetrators made people think that WTC 1 was first hit by a plane. Then they blew up WTC 2 first. Why did they not use their remote control over explosives to make a logical impact/fall sequence?

    Now, since the argument shows that the NPT depends on remotes for something, and remotes exist for the purpose of making last minute changes that give an operation such as this more credibility, compensating for earlier errors, WHY did the perps create a backwards impact/fall sequence??????? this also applies to planes that are remote controlled if explosives are too.

    I did this on the david icke board, you know, "the reptile" believer. I would hijack any and every thread about remotes or NPT and ask that question incessantly. I told them to invent a logical reason, anything, just provide a reason. I was banned eventually, temporarily, but their BS was exposed and the nonsense died off. Not just there but at pilots for 9-11 truth as well. No logical reason was ever provided,

    Unfortunately replaced by something slightly less wacky but still nonsense. Flight 93 info for example. Sickening.

    The fact is that no agent will discuss information that is useful for gaining more truth. They will ridicule and post text denying the evidence which is useful and try to distract and pretend they are confused when any 5th grader could see and understand what is shared. The idea is to keep the last page of the thread dominated with nonsense, ridicule and a social scene that appears as rejection. the casual citizen investigator, thinking they are viewing a message board that is a real environment of real people having a real discussion, is turned off by the entire thing and gives up eventually.

    Sound familiar?

    BTW, I am a real American and actually have exclusive information which I am absolutely sure of about the Twin towers. You will see it work given some time. I care very much about the rest of America and have huge respect for them. I understand how difficult it is to break away from the group-think aspect that is human nature. Only freedom of speech can save us. Please, allow me to share with you it's greater meaning. this is old, this is real, and it is America to its roots and you will know it, ........ if you are a real American whose reality is based in the sacred principles of our Constitution.

    The Greater Meaning of Free Speech:
    Is from the understanding that can be found in the sharing. From the understanding can come; foregiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.


    Freedom of speech is seriously compromised by the .com. In 1994 the usenet was the only internet. It was only a message board. There were no personal or commercial web sites, or they were not the first thing you found. The first thing was a message board environment that was your city, then your region, then your state, then your nation, then your world. You could click on a nation and see all the cities or regions in that nation. You could click on that and find any city big enough to have a university with a server connected to the internet.

    That's all gone since 1995. The usenet is still there, but I run a macintosh, and to get to the usenet requires special software and setup, and in the last 14 years I have not been back. There is no free speech on .com. It is all private property. Usenet was on university servers and was bound to free speech.

    Accordingly the infiltration of government extends to very powerful technological interests that control our society of information in many ways and they now control the easiest way for us to communicate and have minions, (we might be paying for) interfering with our efforts to share facts needed to make decisions and steer our nation democratically, if, ........... the republic is defunct. All the more reason to heed these words.

    Minds are like parachutes, they only work when they are open.
     
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    Hi Chris:

    Your mouth is moving :)lol:), but Chris :)cuckoo:) is not saying anything . . .

    GL,

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    Hey Christophera

    Terral - USMB's foremost conspiracy theorist - has produced evidence that planes never hit the towers or the Pentagon. Is he part of the government's psyops too?
     
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    Niether of you have any evidence of anything and Terral cannot come up with a logical answer to a very reasonable question and cannot claim I should be looking at what he calls evidence UNTIL he comes up with a reasonable answer.

    QUESTION FOR TERRAL:

    Why did the perpetrators create a backwards impact/ fall sequence


    The firefighter radio call issue is garbage. The backwards sequence is a major inconsistency and no perpetrtor of mass murder would consider that on purpose without VERY good reason. If you have a problem with that, the discussion is over.

    State the reason for the backwards sequence. And while you are at it, tell us exactly how the information can be used, with what agency and what regulation compels there action.

    The canadian has no evidence, standing or reason for being here and supports secrete murder with BS manipulation. This is about protecting the Constitution by reason with evidence for justice and all treasons will be identified.
     
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    What's the matter Terral? Jealous that fellow nut job Christophera may be getting more attention than you?
    This is like watching two crack whores arguing over a space on a street corner.
     
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    Actually, I have easily countered one of your claims.

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...on-about-twin-towers-core-17.html#post1456318

    Hey Terral

    Show him your evidence that the planes didn't hit the towers nor the Pentagon.
     
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    Your post makes as much sense as robot output.

    Terral is supposed to provide a good reason for the perps to jeopardize their scam by creating a backwards impact/sequence.

    Your obfsucation is working towards keeping the means of mass murder secret.
     
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    Yeah, youbetcha pal.

    Tell me, how can someone make $6 billion when his payout is $4.55 billion, let alone accounting for the cost of actually buying the buildings in the first place?

    I mean, you don't have to be a math whiz to question that accusation.
     
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    You are wrong. Here is substance proving it. He made a profit and provides the truth movement with the ONLY plans they have.

    Silverstein Makes a Huge Profit off of the 9/11 Attacks

    Even better, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy, based on the two, in Silverstein's view, separate attacks. The total potential payout is $7.1 billion, more than enough to build a fabulous new complex and leave a hefty profit for the Silverstein Group, including Larry Silverstein himself.

    canandian, you are being shown to support that the means of mass murder remain secret and that all Americans REMAIN deprived of due process.
     

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