DOJ, FBI Ignores Presidential Order - Obstruction of Justice

[Skylar]

Since you refuse to deal with reality, since you continue to ignore posted articles and links pertaining to all of this, since you continue to insist on lying and spinning about this, I am just going to ignore you now.

have a good weekend, snowflake

Smiling....your conspiracy fantasies aren't 'reality', kiddo. They're just the pseudo-legal delusions you cling to as the actual indictments and actual guilty pleas keep coming down the pipe of the Mueller investigation.

Even Trump isn't arguing that he was 'disobyed' or that 'conspirators' are trying to 'hide documents'. That's just you citing the wasteland of your imagination.

And in perfect, unhinged form.....the higher Mueller works his way up the ladder in Team Trump, the more hysterically desperate your conspiracy becomes.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why wont they release the whole document, redacted of course?

Releasing only a select portion can only be for a partisan political argument.

And you know this how? MSM?

Because Trey Gowdy, who has seen the documents because he has the clearance has said that they could be released in whole, unredacted. They are not a threat to national security although he said he did see information in there that was embarrassing to the DOJ and FBI. But that is NOT a legit reason to classify something.

 

[Skylar]

Why wont they release the whole document, redacted of course?

Releasing only a select portion can only be for a partisan political argument.

And you know this how? MSM?

Because Trey Gowdy, who has seen the documents because he has the clearance has said that they could be released in whole, unredacted. They are not a threat to national security although he said he did see information in there that was embarrassing to the DOJ and FBI. But that is NOT a legit reason to classify something.

Gowdy didn't say that release of the FISA warrant wouldn't be a threat to national security.

 

[jc456]

Did you read the very 1st post of this thread?

President Trump ordered the release of the entire document.....

"....specifically the 20 pages requested 'by-name/title' on Monday,"

Sorry but I believe the document is somewhat longer than the 20 pages requested.

So you know more than Nunez?

That's funny for more than you know.

typical leftist rerun. you know more seeing nothing than he does with it in his hands. wow. you're some kind of special. let me know when you can part the red sea.

 

[easyt65]

Because Trey Gowdy, who has seen the documents because he has the clearance has said that they could be released in whole, unredacted. They are not a threat to national security although he said he did see information in there that was embarrassing to the DOJ and FBI. But that is NOT a legit reason to classify something.

Yet the DOJ and the FBI refused to comply with the president's orders and collaborated together to determine what information in those documents they wanted to release while planning to keep all the other information redacted.

WHO is hiding things...or trying to?

 

[jc456]

"....specifically the 20 pages requested 'by-name/title' on Monday,"

Sorry but I believe the document is somewhat longer than the 20 pages requested.

Agreed, but they were asked specifically about 1 document during the interview. Their response was in regards to how long it should have taken them to release that 1 document.

Come on man, you're not even trying anymore. Allow me to quote your first post again.

"specifically the 20 pages requested 'by-name/title' on Monday, Nunes responded by explaining that physically copying, scanning, and putting 20 pages on-line would / should take no more than 20 - 30 minutes."

Redacting the entire document?

Where is redacted mentioned by Nunez?

It doesn't surprise me that a Russian supporter would want to see classified data harmful to US Security interest released to the public.

you’re more concerned for the government rather than the people! When has that ever happened?

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Why wont they release the whole document, redacted of course?

Releasing only a select portion can only be for a partisan political argument.

And you know this how? MSM?

As opposed to what you know from the psychic hotline?

 

[busybee01]

Trump by his own admission was about to release information that would endanger our national security. He was forced to back down.

You just lied your ass off. The President said no such thing. To counter the same excuse the conspirators used in the past - only to be proven they were redacting embarrassing facts that had no impact on national security, Trump asked the US IG to make the decision on what can and can not be released.

You sound as desperate as Comey, Mueller, and Rosenstein to keep this stuff hidden...

You are the liar. He was forced to back down which essentially is a admission he was about to put out classified material.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Constitutional crises....
Release the fucken documents!!!!!!!

If the goal was 'full disclosure'....why did Trump only release 21 of 412 pages?

As I've said before.
He's setting you clowns up just like he's done since he announced he was running for office.

Nothing says 'setting you clowns up' like backing down.

Name your wins since Trump was elected.

 

[busybee01]

When has making public the evidence of an on going active federal investigation ever happened?
Never.
Why?
"Under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), Justice Department attorneys have a strict legal obligation to protect the confidentiality of matters occurring before the grand jury. Second, the attorneys have a broader duty to protect the integrity of ongoing investigations and to prevent congressional pressures from influencing the course of an investigation. Department participation in publicity about facts under investigation could also jeopardize any indictments that may be filed, possibly leading to dismissal."
Can Congress access evidence uncovered by the special counsel?
In other words, its not Obstruction of Justice, it's the law.

I am sure the DOJ and FBI - who have already been hammered by the US IG for quite a lot of what they were caught doing during this witch hunt - will be screaming this at the top of their lungs.

THEY forced the President's hand. T HEY made him do this.

As they say, 'Don't hate the playa - hate the game' ... the game the Democrats / Witch Hunters created / started.

Besides, I thought snowflakes loved 'Transparency', which is supposed to be one of the things you loved most about Obama.

Bwuhahahahaha......

The IG found no evidence that politics played any role in this.

 

[Skylar]

Because Trey Gowdy, who has seen the documents because he has the clearance has said that they could be released in whole, unredacted. They are not a threat to national security although he said he did see information in there that was embarrassing to the DOJ and FBI. But that is NOT a legit reason to classify something.

Yet the DOJ and the FBI refused to comply with the president's orders and collaborated together to determine what information in those documents they wanted to release while planning to keep all the other information redacted.

WHO is hiding things...or trying to?

The FBI and DOJ refused to comply with the president's order says your imagination. Trump is not making this allegation.

YOU are as part of your increasingly shrill and hysteric conspiracy theory. That you've added yet another layer of batshit to your already fantasically elaborate and gloriously fact free conspiracy delusion....

....involved us how exactly?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump made an order to declassify the documents. He did not go back on this.

Just because something is declassified does not mean it's released to the public.

 

[busybee01]

Did you read the very 1st post of this thread?

President Trump ordered the release of the entire document.....

"....specifically the 20 pages requested 'by-name/title' on Monday,"

Sorry but I believe the document is somewhat longer than the 20 pages requested.

So you know more than Nunez?

Nunes has been found to be a partisan liar. When he was offered the chance to look at the unredacted material he paid no attention to them. Why clutter your mind up with facts.

 

[Skylar]

Did you read the very 1st post of this thread?

President Trump ordered the release of the entire document.....

"....specifically the 20 pages requested 'by-name/title' on Monday,"

Sorry but I believe the document is somewhat longer than the 20 pages requested.

So you know more than Nunez?

Nunes has been found to be a partisan liar. When he was offered the chance to look at the unredacted material he paid no attention to them. Why clutter your mind up with facts.

Nunes already tried this bullshit, 'selectively declassifying' portions of the FISA application and then insisting that the FBI never revealed the origin of the Steele Dossier. And then backing down off the allegation once the Democrats were able to get some small portion of the FBI's disclosure of the origin of the Steele Dossier declassified.

Again, 30 members have congress have already seen the full, unredacted FISA memo. All 412 pages of it. And.....nothing. There is no 'smoking gun'.

This is purely a political ploy by Trump to try and discredit an active criminal investigation. With no cut out man like Nunes to deflect Obstruction of Justice charges implications away from Trump. They all land directly at Trump's feet.

 

[busybee01]

Only snowflakes can try to spin the fact that the president called for the immediate unredacted release of all documents only to have the conspirators disobey those orders and try to hide the documents, only seeking to release redacted documents, and claim just the opposite, that it is President Obama who is trying to do what the Democrats are reportedly trying to do.

Such Insanity from the left only makes your head hurt.

You are the insane one.

These agencies have a duty to protect the US not Donald Trump. They should fight tooth and nail not to release any information that would harm national security . That is apparently what happened and Trump was forced to compromise.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What Trump did by demanding the release of these documents, regardless of what anyone thinks of him, was very heroic. And I don't ever say such things lightly. It's the way it should be done, first of all, as opposed to being leaked where there would be no control over them.

And secondly, it should come as no surprise that the media doesn't want them released. The reason they do not want them released is because Trump would be able to defend himself against their constant claims. He'd be able to defend himself against the war they have on him. Though, I'd add that the media has been known to have absolutely no problem reporting on leaked classified documents. Right? lolol.

To that extent, the media are, themselves, complicit and accessory to the scam. What they're really doing is demonstrating their allegiance to corrupt bureaucrats, as opposed to their readers and listeners.

Trump is bypassing the media by demanding their release and at the same time holding the JOJ and FBI to the Constitution. They answer to th President. It's not the other way around. And therein lies the heroic aspect of it. So, give him credit for that, regardless of whether or not it's just to defend himself against the complicit media.

 

[Skylar]

What Trump did by demanding the release of these documents, regardless of what anyone thinks of him, was very heroic. And I don't ever say such things lightly. It's the way it should be done, first of all, as opposed to being leaked where there would be no control over them.

No it wasn't.

Trump didn't try and declassify the FISA application. He tried to declassify only those portions that would forward his narrative. 21 of 412 pages that he thinks backs his claims.

It was a purely political move that has zero prosecutorial application. As despite the fraudulent narrative that the FBI didn't disclose the origins of the Steele Dossier to the FISA courts......they did disclose them. Even Nunes was forced to admit it. And these disclosures exonerate anyone in the FBI from charges regardless of their status as classified.

Even if Trump still tries to keep the vast majority of the portions of the FISA applications where the FBI disclosed the political motives of the Steele Dossier away from the public.

And secondly, it should come as no surprise that the media doesn't want them released. The reason they do not want them released is because Trump would be able to defend himself against their constant claims. He'd be able to defend himself against the war they have on him.

To that extent, the media are, themselves, complicit and accessory to the scam. What they're really doing is demonstrating their allegiance to corrupt bureaucrats, as opposed to their readers and listeners.

Trump is bypassing the media by demanding their release and at the same time holding the JOJ and FBI to the Constitution. They answer to th President. It's not the other way around. And therein lies the heroic aspect of it. So, give him credit for that, regardless of whether or not it's just to defend himself against the complicit media.

Blithering nonsense. This has nothing to do with the 'media'.

Nunes tried this exact same ploy with the debunked 'Nunes Memo'. Where Nunes used selective declassification to try and push a fake narrative that full declassification didn't support. And when some small portion of the FISA application where the FBI disclosed the origin of the Steele Dossier was successfully declassified by the Democrats........Nunes' narrative collapsed.

Again, the full FISA application has already been seen by 30 members of congress. And....nothing. There's no smoking gun. There's merely politically motivated selective declassification to try and discredit an active criminal investigation in which Trump personally is under investigation.

An investigation Trump has already tried to shut down.

 

[easyt65]

You are the insane one.
These agencies have a duty to protect the US not Donald Trump.

The President does not have a duty to protect Americans?! And you call me the insane one....BWUHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Skylar]

You are the insane one.
These agencies have a duty to protect the US not Donald Trump.

The President does not have a duty to protect Americans?! And you call me the insane one....BWUHAHAHAHAHA!

Huh? Try again, this time reading for comprehension:

"These agencies have a duty to protect the US not Donald Trump."

Which you've bizrrely read as "The President does not have a duty to protect Americans"

Are you okay?

 

[easyt65]

You are the insane one.
These agencies have a duty to protect the US not Donald Trump.

The President does not have a duty to protect Americans?! And you call me the insane one....BWUHAHAHAHAHA!

Huh? Try again, this time reading for comprehension:

"These agencies have a duty to protect the US not Donald Trump."

Which you've bizrrely read as "The President does not have a duty to protect Americans"

Are you okay?

So you two are trying to say that the president of the United States does not have a duty to protect this country or the American people?

Are YOU ok?