Does the State of California needs to come down on Hollywood?

[Meister]

Egad, you are one dumb ass, Meister, that is his source. A friekin' conspiracy wingnut. And, yes, I use both the links Engdahl posted extensively, and they in no way support any of the nonsense that he posted denying the reality of warming.

What the hell are you talking about rocks?
Sure doesn't seem to be man made anything


Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature

Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature

Influence of the Southern Oscillation on tropospheric temperature
J. D. McLean

Applied Science Consultants, Croydon, Victoria, Australia

C. R. de Freitas

School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand

R. M. Carter

Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Queensland, Australia

Time series for the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) and global tropospheric temperature anomalies (GTTA) are compared for the 1958−2008 period. GTTA are represented by data from satellite microwave sensing units (MSU) for the period 1980–2008 and from radiosondes (RATPAC) for 1958–2008. After the removal from the data set of short periods of temperature perturbation that relate to near-equator volcanic eruption, we use derivatives to document the presence of a 5- to 7-month delayed close relationship between SOI and GTTA. Change in SOI accounts for 72% of the variance in GTTA for the 29-year-long MSU record and 68% of the variance in GTTA for the longer 50-year RATPAC record. Because El Niño−Southern Oscillation is known to exercise a particularly strong influence in the tropics, we also compared the SOI with tropical temperature anomalies between 20°S and 20°N. The results showed that SOI accounted for 81% of the variance in tropospheric temperature anomalies in the tropics. Overall the results suggest that the Southern Oscillation exercises a consistently dominant influence on mean global temperature, with a maximum effect in the tropics, except for periods when equatorial volcanism causes ad hoc cooling. That mean global tropospheric temperature has for the last 50 years fallen and risen in close accord with the SOI of 5–7 months earlier shows the potential of natural forcing mechanisms to account for most of the temperature variation.

Received 16 December 2008; accepted 14 May 2009; published 23 July

 

[Thinman]

Ah yes, F. William Engdahl. Such a believable fellow.

You continue to dodge the question:

Does the State of California need to come down on Hollywood?

Millions of watts of power used every day in movie and TV production there. Impossibly-bright stage lighting, environmental controls, Hummer limos and private jets for the stars, CO2 "smoke" and massive, power-gulping computers for special effects, and so on ad-nauseum, all in the name of entertainment.

Aren't California's grid, budget and pollution problems worth a look into this, before they start going after Joe six-pack and his 50" TV set? Do the klieg lights have energy star ratings? The Hummer Limos -- are these hybrids? Is there any thought given to global warming and killing off Polar bears, in Hollywood production?

Just as much, but not more than any other industry. Many high poluting industries are required to meet Air Quality Management District standards. As far as power consumption, I certainly wouldn't want the State of California telling me, if I owned a business, that I couldn't have all the power I needed to operate. The same goes for 50" tv sets; if it's available and for sale and not an illegal substance and I want it, it's mine.

California is so top heavy, it's pathetic. We have administrators for our administrators.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now that is a good article, and I have already used in one other thread. But it says that the temperature variation from the mean can be mostly accounted for by natural variation. However, that mean has been climbing for 150 years.


AGU Media Advisory - American Geophysical Union Centre for Ecology and Hydrology Dorset Wageningen University Joint Release

Greenhouse Gas/Temperature Feedback Mechanism May Raise Warming Beyond Previous Estimates

WASHINGTON - A team of European scientists reports that climate change estimates for the next century may have substantially underestimated the potential magnitude of global warming. They say that actual warming due to human fossil fuel emissions may be 15-to-78 percent higher than warming estimates that do not take into account the feedback mechanism involving carbon dioxide and Earth's temperature.

In a paper to be published on 26 May in Geophysical Research Letters, Marten Scheffer of Wageningen University in the Netherlands and colleagues at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany and the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in the United Kingdom use newly acquired ancient climate data to quantify the two-way phenomenon by which greenhouse gases not only contribute to higher temperatures, but are themselves increased by the higher temperatures. This higher concentration leads to still higher temperatures, in what scientists call a positive feedback loop.

The researchers achieved their breakthrough by interpreting the high-resolution data from polar ice cores and temperature reconstructions based on geological proxy data in a new way. Although the effect of greenhouse gases on temperature is well known, the reverse effect is usually ignored. The latter has now been estimated through a correction of the past climate data, using a model of the greenhouse effect.

One complicating factor was that some of the processes that play a role in the feedback loop are quite fast, taking place over a period of years, while others take centuries or even millennia. This implies that the strength of the feedback effect depends on the time scale being analyzed. Another factor was that the modern world looks quite different than it did tens of thousands of year ago, when the ice in the cores was formed.

Therefore, the authors focused especially on relatively recent climatic anomaly known as the "Little Ice Age." During this period (about 1550-1850), immortalized in many paintings of frozen landscapes in Northern Europe, Earth was substantially colder than it is now. This, scientists have concluded, was due largely to reduced solar activity, and just as during true ice ages, the atmospheric carbon level dropped during the Little Ice Age. The authors used this information to estimate how sensitive the carbon dioxide concentration is to temperature, which allowed them to calculate how much the climate-carbon dioxide feedbacks will affect future global warming.

As Marten Scheffer explains, "Although there are still significant uncertainties, our simple data-based approach is consistent with the latest climate-carbon cycle models, which suggest that global warming will be accelerated by the effects of climate change on the rate of carbon dioxide increase. In view of our findings, estimates of future warming that ignore these effects may have to be raised by about 50 percent. We have, in fact, been conservative on several points. For instance, we do not account for the greenhouse effect of methane, which is also known to increase in warm periods."

The research was funded by Wageningen University and the United Kingdom Natural Environment Research Council.