Does the creation of space and time qualify as a miracle?

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    Does the creation of space and time qualify as a miracle?

    Approximately 14 billion years ago all of the matter and energy in the universe popped into existence out of nothing and occupied the space of 1 billionth of 1 trillionth the size of a single atom and then began to expand and cool.
     
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    Prove it. For all we know, the universe could just be a mirror image of itself.

    Prove your theory. Right now you're only offering conjecture as fact. We can't do that.
     
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    Red shift proves that every point is moving away from every other point.

    Cosmic background radiation proves the initial expansion.

    Freidmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations tells us that the universe occupied a tiny space and then began to expand and cool.

    Inflation theory explains how energy and matter can be created from nothing without violating the law of conservation.

    Every single cosmological model honors the condition that all of space and time occupied the space of of 1 billionth of 1 trillionth the size of a single atom and then began to expand and cool.
     
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    So do you believe that would qualify as a miracle?
     
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    There are no scared truths in science, Ding. There are only more questions to be asked.
     
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    Since there is no logical reason for the state of existence itself to exist, yeah.
     
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    Is that a no then? You don't believe the creation of space and time would be considered a miracle?
     
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    Bah. The 2nd depends on the theory of the big bang being true and unchallenged. The 2nd is a total concoction based solely on a notion that demands that no other alternate theory be considered. That no other questions need asking. This is not the nature of science, Ding. In fact, it's contrary to the nature of science.
     
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    I've come to understand the nature of God and miracles through video games.

    God exists outside of this universe He created for us so the laws that govern our universe simply don't apply to Him anymore than the rules that govern a video game don't apply to you.
     
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    There are no cosmological models which do not honor the initial state. Every single cosmological model whether it is cyclical or not, honors the condition whereby ~14 billion years ago, all matter and energy in the universe occupied the space of 1 billionth of 1 trillionth the size of a single atom and then began to expand and cool.

    True or false?
     

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