"Does it Still Matter?" (Our Constitution)

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    In the 10th annual history issue of Time is an article well worth reading.

    It opens with this comment:

    "One Document, Under Siege. Here are a few things the framers did not know about: WW II. DNA. Sexting. Airplanes. The Atom. Television. Medicare. Collateralized debt obligations. The germ theory of disease. Miniskirts. The internal combustion machine. Computers. Antibiotics. Lady Gaga.

    "People on the right and left constantly ask what the framers would say about some event that is happening today. What would the framers say about whether the ..."

    If you have an opinon on raising the debt ceiling, the 14th Amendment, the War Powers Resolution or any of a number of current issues, this article will either reinforce or weaken your opinion.
     
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    The problem with America is that the Constitution isn't followed all that closely any more. If it was, there would be fewer troubles.
     
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    Do you have an example? I wonder, do you have any interest in reading the article?
     
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    There is no link and I dont subscribe to Time.
     
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    To answer your original question. NO

    The supreme court constantly over steps its stated power in the constitiution.

    The legislative branch takes powers from the states and vests it into itself. Article 1 section 8. For example the EPA.

    So no the constitiution does not matter anymore.
     
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    We have a large standing army under federal control.
     
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    Google, Time. I found the entire article, but I also subscribe to the magazine. I read the hard copy already. If you can't find the article on line, I suppose I can post the link. Before I do I need to know if in doing so I violate copywrite laws and/or rules of this message board.
     
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    From Article I

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    It says nothing about how long the army can exist, but you cannot fund it for more than two years without congress re-approving it.
     
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    And before it gets stated the general welfare clause has been badly misinterpreted

    Money cannot be applied to the General Welfare, otherwise than by an application of it to some particular measure conducive to the General Welfare. Whenever, therefore, money has been raised by the General Authority, and is to be applied to a particular measure, a question arises whether the particular measure be within the enumerated authorities vested in Congress. If it be, the money requisite for it may be applied to it; if it be not, no such application can be made. (James Madison)

    Here is a blog that explains it more eloquently than I could.

    General Welfare | Connor's Conundrums
     
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    And Article I continues, "To provide and maintain a Navy" (no time restriction, curious); and "To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces (more curous indeed).

    But all of this is framed by the article in Time, the July 4, 2011 edition.
     

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