Do you think the average American knows why the US backs Israel so strongly??

[Natural Citizen]

It's very similar to the silly red helmet vs blue helmet game that dictates American politics. A mirror image, actually. Same puppetmaster, in reality. These are globalists of the worst kind.

 

[1srelluc]

They got the same thing happening in new york now. Where are all the aclu people on this? Let some christian denomination start blasting out hymns over the loudspeakers and the aclu would catapult out of their sewer quicker than the speed of light.

I was listening to it in Gaza this morning and you could hear roosters crowing at the same time. The roosters sounded better.

 

[NoVote]

America supports Israel for many reasons, but one huge reason is, more than half of the Israeli's are transplanted American jews with strong ties to America. Aside from Israel being one of the only countries in the region with ANY ties to the US.

 

[DudleySmith]

Why was a Jewish state allowed to be created/plopped/mandated/forced in the middle of the Arab world on stolen Palestinian land? Israel is a squatter nation on stolen lands.

creation of israel 1948 - Google Search

Take it up with the Ottomans and the Brits, then snivel about all the Arab countries who expelled them, and then the Polish scum who murdered any Jews trying to return to their houses and land in Poland after the war. There are over 70 years of tax rolls that show a lot more Jews paying land taxes than your fake 'palestinians', so there is that, same after the Brits took over, for another 20-30 years. Plus, they got over 85% of the Mandate in a 'two state solution' already.

 

[Rigby5]

America supports Israel for many reasons, but one huge reason is, more than half of the Israeli's are transplanted American jews with strong ties to America. Aside from Israel being one of the only countries in the region with ANY ties to the US.

Wrong.
There are almost 7 million Israelis, and fewer than 200,000 came from the US.
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Israeli demographer Yinon Cohen estimated fewer than 200,000 Israelis came from the US.
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Only about 1000 a year go from the US to Israel, and lately many are coming back.

 

[Rigby5]

Take it up with the Ottomans and the Brits, then snivel about all the Arab countries who expelled them, and then the Polish scum who murdered any Jews trying to return to their houses and land in Poland after the war. There are over 70 years of tax rolls that show a lot more Jews paying land taxes than your fake 'palestinians', so there is that, same after the Brits took over, for another 20-30 years. Plus, they got over 85% of the Mandate in a 'two state solution' already.

Incorrect.
The Ottoman Empire had nothing to do with the creation of Palestine and the massive Jewish immigration.
The Brits also were against it, and Churchill in 1922 released a whitepaper insisting Jews would have nothing to do with any government in Palestine.

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Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab delegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
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[Rigby5]

Take it up with the Ottomans and the Brits, then snivel about all the Arab countries who expelled them, and then the Polish scum who murdered any Jews trying to return to their houses and land in Poland after the war. There are over 70 years of tax rolls that show a lot more Jews paying land taxes than your fake 'palestinians', so there is that, same after the Brits took over, for another 20-30 years. Plus, they got over 85% of the Mandate in a 'two state solution' already.

You are also wrong about land ownership and property taxes.
The records show that Jews paid for less than 5% of Palestine.
Almost off of the land in Israel is stolen from Palestinian natives either murdered or driven out at gun point.

Currently the 7 million immigrant Jews of Israel are illegally occupying 85% of the British Mandate for Palestine, and the 13 million native Palestinians are crushed into just 15% of their former country.

 

[surada]

No.

The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict

If Americans Knew is dedicated to providing Americans with everything they need to know about Israel and Palestine.

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A Synopsis of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

If Americans Knew is dedicated to providing Americans with everything they need to know about Israel and Palestine.

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Book review: "Married to Another Man"

Ghada Karmi's latest book Married to Another Man: Israel's Dilemma in Palestine opens with the problem European Zionists faced over a century ago when they first mooted the idea of a Jewish state in Palestine. They found then that there was already a well-established Palestinian society existing...

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1922 Palestine

The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality.

The division into religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 408 Sikhs, 265 Baháʼís, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans

 

[Rigby5]

Jews are not native to the Levant, yet Jerusalem is a Hebrew name and Jewish settlements there predate the invention of Islam by over a thousand years.

Got it.

False.
Jerusalem is a Canaanite name and the invading Hebrew murdered every single Canaanite they could.
Like Joshua at Jericho.
The Canaanite settlements are Arab and go back to 8000 BC, the oldest large city in the whole world.
The Hebrew were illiterate because they had no Hebrew script until the Romans made one for them around 100 BC.
Before that, the Hebrew who could write, has to use Phoenician or Amoraic.
Jews did not name Jerusalem, which existed for 6,000 years before the Hebrew invasion, but the Jews got their name from the Canaanite Jerusalem.

And the Jews only ruled the Land of Canaan from about 1000 BC to 850 BC, when the Assyrians kicked them out.
Around 750 BC the Babylonians had to kick them out again.
Around 500 BC the Seleucids had to kick them out again.
Around 60 AD the Romans had to kick them out again.

See the pattern?
No one could stand their arrogance and false pride, claiming to be the "Chosen People" and trying to take what they decided was the "Promised Land".

 

[Rigby5]

Actually Israel was a French client state, but I don't expect tard and deviants to know any real history. They didn't become a U.S. client state until LBJ stepped in when the French withdrew. Most of our support until then came via the UN.

And, we got a good return on our aid and military sales, and still do, as they provide a lot of services and support capacity for a lot of stuff we do there, also things most are clueless about. We continue to elect morons to the White House, though, which of course means our foreign policy has been unstable and outright incompetent since Carter.

Totally wrong.
Palestine was a client state of the Ottoman Empire from about 1500 to 1920.
In 1920 Palestine became the British Mandate for Palestine, from the treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres.
The French had nothing to do with it, and were involved with Jordan instead.

The British left around 1946 when Menachim Begin blew up the King David hotel and wiped out the British peace keeper command.
Menachim Begin also gunned down the UN moderator, Folke Bernadotte.
Then started massacring hundreds of Arab villages like Deir Yassin, once there was no one to stop him.
That is what started the 1948 war, since no civilized people watch the massacres and do nothing.

Israel does nothing at all for us, and instead costs us over $5 billion a year.
Not once has Israel even allows us to land a single military plane or ship there.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Do you think the average American knows why the US backs Israel so strongly or what the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is??

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Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East. Developed, free market economy.

Israel gives equal rights to women and all religions.

Israel extensively shares intelligence with us, is a military partner and shares common enemies.

We share so many common values and goals.

 

[Rigby5]

Do you ever not whine? My goodness. It’s not stolen it’s conquered. Like your ancestors were but mine had the balls to take back their land. Yours? You whine online like a bitch.

The British Mandate for Palestine meant the British owed the Palestinians for their help with Lawrence of Arabia.
But instead of helping, just like the Ottoman Empire, the British kept the Palestinians totally unarmed.
So then it WAS "stolen".
The invading Jewish immigrants massacred the unarmed Arab Palestinian natives.
Once Menachim Begin blew up the King David Hotel, the British ran home and totally ignored their mandate to defend Palestine.
It does not take courage to massacre unarmed natives in order to steal their land, but evil greed instead.

 

[Rigby5]

Once again, hamas hides behind schoolchildren and starts war.

Wrong.
This war was started by the illegal immigrant Jews in the 1930s who blew up the King David hotel, gunned down the UN moderator, and then started massacring native Arab villages.
Israel has never stopped massacring natives and illegally confiscating homes.

 

[Rigby5]

Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East. Developed, free market economy.

Israel gives equal rights to women and all religions.

Israel extensively shares intelligence with us, is a military partner and shares common enemies.

We share so many common values and goals.

Israel is the least democratic country in the world.
If you dissent, Mossad takes you away.
Netanyahu is one of the least popular leaders in the world.

{...
A poll shows public support for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his allies collapsing in the wake of Hamas’s deadly assault on southern Israel, with voters shifting to Benny Gantz’s National Unity party in the wake of his decision to join the government and form a wartime cabinet.
The survey, published by Maariv, gives the centrist National Unity 41 seats, up from the 12 it currently holds. Likud meanwhile drops to just 19 seats, well below the 32 it currently has. The poll gives hardline parties Otzma Yehudit and Religious Zionism five and four seats respectively. The two garnered 14 seats together in the last election. Ultra-Orthodox parties are also seen losing a modicum of support.
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They give IDF chief Herzi Halevi a 57% approval rating, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant a 54% rating, with Netanyahu only getting 40%
...}

Israel does not do well from sound economic policy, but US foreign aid and US donations over $10 billion a year.
Israel does not have equal rights for women, and does not allow women in government since Golda, and does not even allow women to own property or inherit.
Israel has abused all other religions, and routinely Israeli Jews spit on Christians.

Israel shares nothing of military value with the US, and instead routinely steals US secrets, heavy water, etc., and has stolen our nuclear technology.

 

[DudleySmith]

Totally wrong.
Palestine was a client state of the Ottoman Empire from about 1500 to 1920.
In 1920 Palestine became the British Mandate for Palestine, from the treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres.
The French had nothing to do with it, and were involved with Jordan instead.

The British left around 1946 when Menachim Begin blew up the King David hotel and wiped out the British peace keeper command.
Menachim Begin also gunned down the UN moderator, Folke Bernadotte.
Then started massacring hundreds of Arab villages like Deir Yassin, once there was no one to stop him.
That is what started the 1948 war, since no civilized people watch the massacres and do nothing.

Israel does nothing at all for us, and instead costs us over $5 billion a year.
Not once has Israel even allows us to land a single military plane or ship there.

And of course nothing I said has anything to to do with the time and why they became an American client state, dufus. The British appointed antisemitic tards to control the Mandate, allowed a lot of illegal Arab immigration while severely restricting Jewish immigration, and after WW II ended created foul conditions in their Jewish refugee camps in their Zone, and actually rammed ships of refugees fleeing to Palestine in 1947. You pieces of shit just like parroting selective history and posting idiot non-points to deflect from the fact you're just pieces of shit supporting vile terrorist scum because it's fashionable and a product of Soviet Cold War propaganda and Viet Nam war stoner doper fashion. You're just Burb Brat narcissistic sociopath fashionistas, is all.

The PEanut Gallery can note the French played a bigger part in Israeli armaments and UN support after the British supported the Arab armies in the '47-'48 war victories, which is why they had all those French Mirage jets and armor units in their OB's.

Why It Is Time for a Stronger French-Israeli Connection

For decades, Is

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When LBJ assumed support after the French withdrew ....

France–Israel relations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

France–Israel relations are the bilateral ties between the French Republic and the State of Israel. In the early 1950s, the two countries maintained close political and military ties. France was Israel's main weapons supplier until the French withdrawal from Algeria in 1962. Three days before the outbreak of the Third Arab–Israeli War in 1967, the government of Charles de Gaulle imposed an arms embargo on the region, mostly affecting Israel.[1]

Nixon quickly followed suit after his election.

Don't pay any attention to fake history posted by commies and faggots. they will always lie.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Israel is the least democratic country in the world.
If you dissent, Mossad takes you away.
Netanyahu is one of the least popular leaders in the world.

{...
A poll shows public support for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his allies collapsing in the wake of Hamas’s deadly assault on southern Israel, with voters shifting to Benny Gantz’s National Unity party in the wake of his decision to join the government and form a wartime cabinet.
The survey, published by Maariv, gives the centrist National Unity 41 seats, up from the 12 it currently holds. Likud meanwhile drops to just 19 seats, well below the 32 it currently has. The poll gives hardline parties Otzma Yehudit and Religious Zionism five and four seats respectively. The two garnered 14 seats together in the last election. Ultra-Orthodox parties are also seen losing a modicum of support.
...
They give IDF chief Herzi Halevi a 57% approval rating, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant a 54% rating, with Netanyahu only getting 40%
...}

Israel does not do well from sound economic policy, but US foreign aid and US donations over $10 billion a year.
Israel does not have equal rights for women, and does not allow women in government since Golda, and does not even allow women to own property or inherit.
Israel has abused all other religions, and routinely Israeli Jews spit on Christians.

Israel shares nothing of military value with the US, and instead routinely steals US secrets, heavy water, etc., and has stolen our nuclear technology.

Israel has every right to that land, you Antisemitic heathen. And incidentally, G-d's covenant to the Jews remains in force to this day.

 

[DudleySmith]

You are also wrong about land ownership and property taxes.
The records show that Jews paid for less than 5% of Palestine.
Almost off of the land in Israel is stolen from Palestinian natives either murdered or driven out at gun point.

Currently the 7 million immigrant Jews of Israel are illegally occupying 85% of the British Mandate for Palestine, and the 13 million native Palestinians are crushed into just 15% of their former country.

Only 300,000 fled, and by their own volition, encouraged by their Arab heroes. Again you don't know shit or just lying. And your claim that Jews occupy '85%' is an even more blatant lie. Israel was formed by close to 15% of the Mandate. that's why you creeps never show any map of the entire Mandate, with Jordan and Israel for comparison. Go piss on somebody else's leg.

 

[surada]

Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East. Developed, free market economy.

Israel gives equal rights to women and all religions.

Israel extensively shares intelligence with us, is a military partner and shares common enemies.

We share so many common values and goals.

Israel is a Jewish state not a democracy.

 

[surada]

Only 300,000 fled, and by their own volition, encouraged by their Arab heroes. Again you don't know shit or just lying. And your claim that Jews occupy '85%' is an even more blatant lie. Israel was formed by close to 15% of the Mandate. that's why you creeps never show any map of the entire Mandate, with Jordan and Israel for comparison. Go piss on somebody else's leg.

 

[surada]

Only 300,000 fled, and by their own volition, encouraged by their Arab heroes. Again you don't know shit or just lying. And your claim that Jews occupy '85%' is an even more blatant lie. Israel was formed by close to 15% of the Mandate. that's why you creeps never show any map of the entire Mandate, with Jordan and Israel for comparison. Go piss on somebody else's leg.

740,000 fled. The Zionists destroyed 540 Arab villages.