Do you support Bundys rebellion against the federal government?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

American citizens overwhelmingly do not support Bundy's tactics.

Dare I ask for a link to this poll result?

Errand was talking stupidly, and I corrected him. His claim that he did not support with data.

Do you think any sizable number of Americans support armed militiamen?

You know better.

So, no proof. Just your wild imagination

 

[LoneLaugher]

WTF happened to this great thread? We have USMB nutters signing up to support an armed REBELLION against the United States of America!

This thread must be of greater interest.

 

[Pheonixops]

Not at all.

 

[Stephanie]

Hope to see it more from the people after this HORRIBLE display of GOVERNMENT over one rancher and some fee they owed..then we have the Irs, the liar of year, Obama, Dirty harry calling us, terrorist

time to wake up people

 

[NYcarbineer]

American citizens overwhelmingly do not support Bundy's tactics.

Dare I ask for a link to this poll result?

lol, does it have to be as scientific as the poll you put up?

 

[Moonglow]

I'd prefer the lands be restored to the Shoshone tribe.......

 

[LoneLaugher]

Hope to see it more from the people after this HORRIBLE display of GOVERNMENT over one rancher and some fee they owed..then we have the Irs, the liar of year, Obama, Dirty harry calling us, terrorist

time to wake up people

You forgot the "s" again.

 

[Pheonixops]

I support his demand that the land be returned to the state.

"The United States gained the territory in 1848 following its victory in the Mexican-American War, and the area was eventually incorporated as part of Utah Territory in 1850. The discovery of silver at the Comstock Lode in 1859 led to a population boom that was an impetus to the creation of Nevada Territory out of western Utah Territory in 1861. Nevada became the 36th state on October 31, 1864, as the second of two states added to the Union during the Civil War.

Over 80% of the state's area is owned by the federal government. The primary reason for this is that homesteads were not permitted in large enough sizes to be viable in the arid conditions that prevail throughout desert Nevada. Instead, early settlers would homestead land surrounding a water source, and then graze livestock on the adjacent public land, which is useless for agriculture without access to water (this pattern of ranching still prevails)."

"The Taylor Grazing Act of 1934 (43 USC 315), signed by President Roosevelt, was intended to "stop injury to the public grazing lands [excluding Alaska] by preventing overgrazing and soil deterioration; to provide for their orderly use, improvement, and development; [and] to stabilize the livestock industry dependent upon the public range" (USDI 1988). This Act was pre-empted by the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (FLPMA)."




Taylor Grazing Act

 

[Pheonixops]

"Cliven Bundy, the rancher whose cattle were rounded up and then released by the BLM over the weekend, claims that his family has used the land in question since 1880 but the Nevada Constitution pre-dates this by 16 years. When Nevada became a state in 1864, its citizens gave up all claims to unappropriated federal land and codified this in the state’s Constitution. The Nevada Constitution (* and the ACT OF CONGRESS (1864) ENABLING THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA TO FORM A CONSTITUTION AND STATE GOVERNMENT) state:

“Third. That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; …..”

If Bundy “owns the land then where is the deed? Where are the records he paid property taxes? It’s not his land. Bundy also claims that it his “right” to graze these BLM public lands. This is not the case. The Taylor Grazing Act of 1934 specifically states that the issuance of a grazing permit does not confer any right to graze or right to own the land. The Taylor Grazing Act is the granddaddy of the U.S. laws governing grazing on federal land. “Taylor” was a rancher and a congressman from Colorado, hardly someone to want government tyranny over ranching."
Cliven Bundy Has No Claim to Federal Land and Grazing | The Wildlife News