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Are All Men Created Equal?

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    Are you seriously trying to claim all people have the same intellectual, athletic, and artistic abilities?
     
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    I'm a liberal and I staunch disagree with the idea that all men are created equal. However, I strongly support that they should be given equal opportunity...which is a separate issue.

    Just as a quick example to support my position, saying all men are created equal would be like saying that everybody is capable of achieving basketball greatness like Michael Jordan, capable of the singing talents of Michael Jackson, able to have the intellectual innovation and genius to match Sir Issac Newton, or be capable of the acts of pure good shown by Mother Teresa. This just simply is not true. We are made differently and unequal. However, it is the beauty of our inequality that makes unity special and makes those that are able to achieve greatness worthy of being the role models we pursue.
     
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    That ISN'T what "all men are created equal" means, dumbass. Are you fucking retarded or something?
     
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    Yet more Progressive Up Is Down Newspeak from SHYTFobrains.

    The Leftwing religion of Progressivism is what promoted Identity Politics and the Biggest Victim Sweepstakes...leading to Some Pigs are More Equal than Others.
     
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    You say this as if Christianity is a given. I'm not one and haven't been in years. Religion is not the basis of my politics.

    I hate everyone else, so why wouldn't I expect them all to hate me too?
     
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    He was correct.
     
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    That's not what created equal means, bub.

    It means that all humans are created equal with inalienable rights coming from The Creator (God, nature, whatever your ideology specifies). Nobody has the right to infringe upon another's inalienable rights (which at bottom are essentially the right to be left alone).
     
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    "All men are created" equal does not mean that all people come into this world with the same talents, abilities and intellect. We're all different and special snowflakes in our own way. It doesn't even have anything to do with our perception "in God's eyes," as if we're able to speak on God's behalf anyway. The phrase refers to our unique value as humans -- no one human is more valuable or worthy than another. It's supposed to serve as a reminder that discrimination is wrong, putting one race above another is wrong, putting anyone "above" another person is wrong. We all share the same innate value as human beings in this world, no one human is "better" or "superior" than another. Men are not better than women, women are not better than men. No "race" or ethnicity is superior to another. We all come into this world the same way, and we leave it the same way.
     
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    I almost agree with this, but it is not true either.

    You cannot compare the extremely bright with the extremely stupid. And they were created that way at birth.

    Same is true of the extremely brave and the extremely cowardly.
     
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    It really depends on jury selection.

    Just ask O.J. Simpson.
     
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