CDZ Do I have to allow you to post on my website?

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    This is going to be some random thoughts on an issue I am riding the fence on. Generally I don't find modern life that different than that of Ptolemy's time so even with the internet I just draw on existing laws. This one has me though.

    Assuming my website is not an absolute monopoly on something do I have to allow your posts?

    If I own a bar I have to serve everyone, even Americans of German descent who can't prove they fought the fatherland in the great war. I don't have to let everyone have a microphone though.

    If I own a business, lets say a church, I certainly don't have to let everyone speak. I probably have to let everyone in.

    The town's square has to reasonably let everyone in and speak.

    The internet sorta is public property, there are a lot of power cables and fibers laid across everyone's private property enabling me to have a website. Them posts are going on my server though.

    Throw some more analogies at me from each point of view!
     
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    Certainly not. And the YouTubes and the USMBs and the Fecesbooks (whatever) all begin with a registration which includes TOS rules. We here all agreed to pass that portal before we posted at all, and the same goes for other sites.

    These wags this week who seem to be whining "the internet owes me a website" sound a lot like "the world owes me a living". And inasmuch as the week before they were crowing about 'socialism' the irony therein is deep.
     
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    Think of the internet as sidewalks, streets and highways, websites as homes and businesses.
     
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    Well, I will point out something I put on another thread.

    Facebook has a website
    Alex Jones has a website

    Facebook makes videos
    Alex Jones makes videos

    Earlier this week, Facebook made the decision to no longer allow Alex Jones to have a channel on their website.

    Facebook (FB) removed four videos from the pages last week after determining that they violated its hate speech and bullying policies. It also suspended the personal profile of Jones.

    The company said that more content from the pages had since been reported, and it had decided to remove them for "repeated violations of community standards and accumulating too many strikes."

    "Upon review, we have taken it down for glorifying violence ... and using dehumanizing language to describe people who are transgender, Muslims and immigrants, which violates our hate speech policies," said Facebook.


    Here is my analogy (if you wish to call it that)…
    If, as some have pontificated, Facebook should be required to post Alex Jones’s material on their website…
    Shouldn’t Alex Jones be required to air Facebook’s videos without edit, commentary, or prejudice?
     
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    ho ho! nice one.

    If Alex Jones lets Facebook post then Facebook has to let Alex Jones post! Lets be fair and equal.

    Effectively A.J. can't afford to but that is interesting.

    This leaves me thinking if special "monopoly" rules need applied to Facebook. For advertising (something I dabble in), Facebook is its own creature, them and Google retargeting are very important to where I work. Craigslist still exists although trends are against them.
     
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    People should be able to do what they want with their property. Period.
    Its THEIR property.
     
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    This is exactly why l'm opposed to PA laws. This is where they lead.
     
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    To be fair, my analogy is a bit faulty. Alex Jones has all upside in the deal because he needs to reach more people.
    I doubt the folks who frequent prison planet are desirable to Facebook. So it’s not apples to apples. But if you’re going to demand a forum be provided for you, it is only fair that you provide a forum for others in the same conditions.

    None of the right wingers have explained to me why this is unfair.
     
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    No you don't have to let everybody post on your website.

    But let's not be too simplistic..facebook isn't just a *website*...nor is twitter.

    These are monoliths that the entire world uses and they have no competition. If you get booted from twitter, there is no comparable system by which to tweet and be seen by the world. There is no comparable system by which you can reach out and speak directly to, say, the president...regardless of your locale.

    And there is just nothing like facebook. It's the go-to for communication..whether it's sharing events, stories, pictures, selling things...nothing else compares and everybody is on board. People who are banned from facebook are being banned from speaking in the manner that most people speak.
     
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    Yep. This is these are the excuses liberals use whenever they want a government takeover of some industry or business.
     
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