Did The Great Flood Really Happen?

[surada]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

there is a lot of evidence across the world that proves a large scale or world wide flood,,
whether it was god sent or not is another matter,,

So I take it the great flood happened after the age of dinosaurs, because they and just about everything else on earth were wiped out by a huge asteroid.

No, I believe that asteroid and meteor strikes triggered the FLOOD. I also have a hunch that the fallout from those strikes have a lot to do with distortions in the dating of fossils etc...

10 million years ago? Where is your sense of proportion?

 

[surada]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

The Flood account was borrowed from the Babylonian myth of Gilgamesh. The Hebrews learned it when they were in Exile.. Genesis and Exodus were written AFTER Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

It wasn't handed down around the campfire for millions of years after the Asteroid strike. Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

And also fiction. And what horrible lessons and morality it teaches... A useless myth that should be held up only as an example of when we were worse at morality, and ethics, and philosophy. That's the real lesson to be learned from it.

 

[BreezeWood]

Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

And also fiction. And what horrible lessons and morality it teaches... A useless myth that should be held up only as an example of when we were worse at morality, and ethics, and philosophy. That's the real lesson to be learned from it.

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And also fiction. And what horrible lessons and morality it teaches... A useless myth that should be held up only as an example of when we were worse at morality, and ethics, and philosophy. That's the real lesson to be learned from it.

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their story is fiction something for children frustrating its purpose and the reality that an intervention did not truly take place and all but a few were murdered in the pretext to give humanity a second chance - than what was the immediate offering of their extinction they experienced anyway. than noah and a few others.

 

[Meriweather]

Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

And more than one moral perhaps. What morals do you find?

 

[ding]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

The Flood account was borrowed from the Babylonian myth of Gilgamesh. The Hebrews learned it when they were in Exile.. Genesis and Exodus were written AFTER Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

It wasn't handed down around the campfire for millions of years after the Asteroid strike. Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

They all shared a common history so it wasn't exactly borrowed per se. It was a shared account. So no, they didn't learn about it when they were in exile anymore than they learned about the account of Abraham in exile. In fact, I'm not convinced they were ever in exile per se.

 

[surada]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

The Flood account was borrowed from the Babylonian myth of Gilgamesh. The Hebrews learned it when they were in Exile.. Genesis and Exodus were written AFTER Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

It wasn't handed down around the campfire for millions of years after the Asteroid strike. Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

They all shared a common history so it wasn't exactly borrowed per se. It was a shared account. So no, they didn't learn about it when they were in exile anymore than they learned about the account of Abraham in exile. In fact, I'm not convinced they were ever in exile per se.

Remember that the good figs were taken to Babylon and the bad figs were left behind. The Hebrews had no foundation narratives until they were exposed to the rich cultural legacies of the Babylonians. They were also familiar with the ancient stories and legends of the Ugarit at Ras Shamra in northern Syria.

 

[ding]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

Wrong. An allegorical narrative of an historical event is not fiction. Your blanket dismissal of ancient texts just shows how biased you really are. There are no other documents like this in antiquity. You would burn what thousands of scholars did not dismiss.

 

[ding]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

The Flood account was borrowed from the Babylonian myth of Gilgamesh. The Hebrews learned it when they were in Exile.. Genesis and Exodus were written AFTER Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

It wasn't handed down around the campfire for millions of years after the Asteroid strike. Its teaching narrative.. a morality tale.

They all shared a common history so it wasn't exactly borrowed per se. It was a shared account. So no, they didn't learn about it when they were in exile anymore than they learned about the account of Abraham in exile. In fact, I'm not convinced they were ever in exile per se.

Remember that the good figs were taken to Babylon and the bad figs were left behind. The Hebrews had no foundation narratives until they were exposed to the rich cultural legacies of the Babylonians. They were also familiar with the ancient stories and legends of the Ugarit at Ras Shamra in northern Syria.

You don't know that the Hebrews had no foundational narratives. The break from polytheism to monotheism and their account of creation says otherwise.

 

[surada]

ding There were TWO exiles.

Babylonian captivity - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Babylonian_captivity
The Babylonian captivity or Babylonian exile is the period in Jewish history during which a number of people from the ancient Kingdom of Judah were captives in Babylon, the capital of the Neo-Babylonian Empire.

Assyrian captivity - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Assyrian_captivity
The Assyrian captivity (or the Assyrian exile) is the period in the history of Ancient Israel and Judah during which several thousand Israelites of ancient Samaria were resettled as captives by Assyria. This is one of the many instances of forcible relocations implemented by the Neo-Assyrian Empire.

 

[ding]

ding There were TWO exiles.

Babylonian captivity - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Babylonian_captivity
The Babylonian captivity or Babylonian exile is the period in Jewish history during which a number of people from the ancient Kingdom of Judah were captives in Babylon, the capital of the Neo-Babylonian Empire.

Assyrian captivity - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Assyrian_captivity
The Assyrian captivity (or the Assyrian exile) is the period in the history of Ancient Israel and Judah during which several thousand Israelites of ancient Samaria were resettled as captives by Assyria. This is one of the many instances of forcible relocations implemented by the Neo-Assyrian Empire.

Ah... not the account of Exodus. My bad.

What does that have to do with the 1st eleven chapters of Genesis?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What morals do you find?

God mu

. An allegorical narrative of an historical event is not fiction.

Of course it is, when it is fictionalized. You are really embarrassing yourself. Yes, the bible flood myth is fiction.

 

[ding]

What morals do you find?

God mu

. An allegorical narrative of an historical event is not fiction.

Of course it is, when it is fictionalized. You are really embarrassing yourself. Yes, the bible flood myth is fiction.

Again... they used allegorical narratives of historical events to make the account more memorable and easier to remember because that's how they passed down information 6,000 years ago.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What morals do you find?

God mu

. An allegorical narrative of an historical event is not fiction.

Of course it is, when it is fictionalized. You are really embarrassing yourself. Yes, the bible flood myth is fiction.

Again... they used allegorical narratives of historical events to make the account more memorable and easier to remember because that's how they passed down information 6,000 years ago.

I.E., it was fictionalized.

 

[ding]

What morals do you find?

God mu

. An allegorical narrative of an historical event is not fiction.

Of course it is, when it is fictionalized. You are really embarrassing yourself. Yes, the bible flood myth is fiction.

Again... they used allegorical narratives of historical events to make the account more memorable and easier to remember because that's how they passed down information 6,000 years ago.

I.E., it was fictionalized.

Not exactly. Embellished.

 

[Likkmee]

What morals do you find?

God mu

. An allegorical narrative of an historical event is not fiction.

Of course it is, when it is fictionalized. You are really embarrassing yourself. Yes, the bible flood myth is fiction.

Again... they used allegorical narratives of historical events to make the account more memorable and easier to remember because that's how they passed down information 6,000 years ago.

I.E., it was fictionalized.

 

[Likkmee]

 

[konradv]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online
Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

Ancient civilizations in that area describe a great flood event. Why? Cuz they all incidentally decided to make up the same story at the same time, or there was actually a great flood.

Floods happen all over the world, so it's not unusual for different cultures to have flood stories. Nothing, however, connects those stories into a cohesive whole, since they usually happened millennia apart.

 

[hobelim]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

All fiction alludes to fact.

 

[ding]

Again... the anthropological aspect of ancient accounts says otherwise.

False. It is still fiction, no matter how it was formed. Whether it was a million ignorant, terrified, illiterate, superstitious peasants adding fictitious elements out of whimsy or magical beliefs, or JK Rowling shitting out another shitty book before breakfast, fiction is fiction.

All fiction alludes to fact.

Not necessarily. It is a matter of degree.