Dems Went Around Congress To Feature Flukes' Testimony

[EriktheRed]

I started this thread because I wanted everyone to see what the Democrats did....what they are doing.

If you like it when your government representatives act like spoiled brats instead of adults then don't start complaining about how our federal government doesn't work anymore. This is why.

These are the kind of stunts Democrats and the White House are pulling on the GOP. When the cameras are off Obama storms out of meetings with Republicans and with world leaders he doesn't like. If we could see what they were doing few of us would think it was worthy of the positions they hold.

In this kind of environment nothing can get accomplished, yet the Democrats claim it's the GOP that's being uncooperative. This proves it's the Democrats are the problem.

I'm just wondering why so many can't see this.

Sounds a bit like you're talking about the Teabagger caucus in the House, actually.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I have no doubt that you are correct. But we aren't Democrats. We need to stop acting like them.

What depth and insight!

I can tell you don't like rude people.

Why are you always so rude?

That may have been a bit rude. But it was also an appropriate reply to a completely idiotic statement. It was designed to suggest to the author that they might want to think a little deeper and employ a little more insight.

 

[mudwhistle]

I started this thread because I wanted everyone to see what the Democrats did....what they are doing.

If you like it when your government representatives act like spoiled brats instead of adults then don't start complaining about how our federal government doesn't work anymore. This is why.

These are the kind of stunts Democrats and the White House are pulling on the GOP. When the cameras are off Obama storms out of meetings with Republicans and with world leaders he doesn't like. If we could see what they were doing few of us would think it was worthy of the positions they hold.

In this kind of environment nothing can get accomplished, yet the Democrats claim it's the GOP that's being uncooperative. This proves it's the Democrats are the problem.

I'm just wondering why so many can't see this.

Sounds a bit like you're talking about the Teabagger caucus in the House, actually.

When has the Tea Party acted like this? Ever.

Btw, calling someone a teabagger is no different from calling them ball-sucking homos.

And the Tea Party cannot caucus in the House because they don't have the power. The Republican establishment is still in control and they aren't on the side of the Tea Party.

 

[EriktheRed]

What depth and insight!

I can tell you don't like rude people.

Why are you always so rude?

That may have been a bit rude. But it was also an appropriate reply to a completely idiotic statement. It was designed to suggest to the author that they might want to think a little deeper and employ a little more insight.

One is blaming the Dems for his own party's missteps and the both are acting like their side's shit never stinks. You might as well not bother.

 

[Mac1958]

Yeah it was a political stunt. Unfortuantely, Rush played right into their hands. Which Im sure is pissing him off right now.

Bingo.

Rush usually knows how to play things, but he walked right into this one. The Dems are pretty sure they've got the upper hand on stuff like this and they ran with it.

Limbaugh occasionally betrays his real priority; it's not conservatism, it's Rush. He knows precisely how carefully people are listening to what he's saying, he knew damn well he'd start a firestorm - he got the huge publicity he wanted out of this, but he's further damaged a party that really doesn't need any help in that department right now.

Score one for the Dems on this one. Assist, Limbaugh.

.

 

[Stephanie]

Democrat voters don't seem to mind when their Representatives are playing them, so why should the rest of us care. with everything else we have to worry about, this is what they think is the most IMPORTANT business for Congress to hear, some 30 year old woman whining about how people can't afford, birth control.

 

[mudwhistle]

What depth and insight!

I can tell you don't like rude people.

Why are you always so rude?

That may have been a bit rude. But it was also an appropriate reply to a completely idiotic statement. It was designed to suggest to the author that they might want to think a little deeper and employ a little more insight.

Actually that's a matter of opinion.

It was a partisan blanket statement.

But judging by what we've seen the last 10 years it is hardly idiotic.

 

[EriktheRed]

I started this thread because I wanted everyone to see what the Democrats did....what they are doing.

If you like it when your government representatives act like spoiled brats instead of adults then don't start complaining about how our federal government doesn't work anymore. This is why.

These are the kind of stunts Democrats and the White House are pulling on the GOP. When the cameras are off Obama storms out of meetings with Republicans and with world leaders he doesn't like. If we could see what they were doing few of us would think it was worthy of the positions they hold.

In this kind of environment nothing can get accomplished, yet the Democrats claim it's the GOP that's being uncooperative. This proves it's the Democrats are the problem.

I'm just wondering why so many can't see this.

Sounds a bit like you're talking about the Teabagger caucus in the House, actually.

When has the Tea Party acted like this? Ever.

Btw, calling someone a teabagger is no different from calling them ball-sucking homos.

And the Tea Party cannot caucus in the House because they don't have the power. The Republican establishment is still in control and they aren't on the side of the Tea Party.

Oh, spare me, wingnut. The House majority which was swept into power by the TEABAGGERS have acted like the biggest bunch of spoiled brats to ever get a seat at the table of power in this country. Thankfully, it looks like the rest of the country sees that, too.

Btw, this isn't the Dems' fault, either:

John Boehner, Eric Cantor call ?truce? - Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com


They might have thier own power struggle brewing soon.

 

[mudwhistle]

I can tell you don't like rude people.

Why are you always so rude?

That may have been a bit rude. But it was also an appropriate reply to a completely idiotic statement. It was designed to suggest to the author that they might want to think a little deeper and employ a little more insight.

One is blaming the Dems for his own party's missteps and the both are acting like their side's shit never stinks. You might as well not bother.

Now that was idiotic.

 

[Conservative]

and the Dems want to whine about 'manufactured' crisis???

 

[LoneLaugher]

Justify. Justify.

 

[mudwhistle]

Sounds a bit like you're talking about the Teabagger caucus in the House, actually.

When has the Tea Party acted like this? Ever.

Btw, calling someone a teabagger is no different from calling them ball-sucking homos.

And the Tea Party cannot caucus in the House because they don't have the power. The Republican establishment is still in control and they aren't on the side of the Tea Party.

Oh, spare me, wingnut. The House majority which was swept into power by the TEABAGGERS have acted like the biggest bunch of spoiled brats to ever get a seat at the table of power in this country. Thankfully, it looks like the rest of the country sees that, too.

Btw, this isn't the Dems' fault, either:

John Boehner, Eric Cantor call ?truce? - Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com


They might have thier own power struggle brewing soon.

I'd like you to prove that the Tea Party has acted like spoiled brats.

Where's your proof???

 

[mudwhistle]

Democrat voters don't seem to mind when their Representatives are playing them, so why should the rest of us care. with everything else we have to worry about, this is what they think is the most IMPORTANT business for Congress to hear, some 30 year old woman whining about how people can't afford, birth control.

My assumption has been that most liberals are kind folks but they've allowed their representatives to lead them down the primrose bath with false promises and underhanded tactics.

Middle-aged mothers angry at Republicans because they're trying to take away their birth control, never even taking the time to question what they see or hear. The left leading them around by the nose with intellectually dense arguments.

The kind of bigotry I see on The View, Bill Maher, MSNBC, and in some movies reminds me of how Southern Democrats acted in the South back when I was a kid. Only a few of those types exist now. But I've seen Grandmothers screaming at Bush about how he tried to destroy America, and college students telling me things about Jews that makes me wonder where they got all of this from.

I see hatred that seems to come to a head when some big-mouth like Rush Limbaugh says something stupid, like that justifies all of this hatred.

 

[HUGGY]

Dems Play Games Over Sandra Flukes' Temstimony

Given the intensifying political fight over Rush Limbaugh's remarks about Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University activist/law student who was not allowed to testify at a February 16 House hearing on the contraceptive mandate issue, the question arises: Why didn't Republicans just allow Fluke to testify? The testimony she ended up giving at a Democrats-only meeting a few days later wasn't particularly compelling, and, had Fluke appeared before the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Republicans could have pretty easily challenged her positions. Yet the GOP refused to allow Fluke to appear, and events have raced along since then. So why not let Fluke speak?

"The Democrats played games with us the day before [the hearing]," says a Republican committee source. "After days of asking for a witness, they waited until the last minute, the afternoon before the hearing. They asked us to invite Rev. Barry Lynn [head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State] and Ms. Fluke. We said we'll invite one, per standard procedure. We formally invited Rev. Lynn, and the Democrats, at 4:30 pm, changed their mind and said they wanted Fluke. We said too late. They told Rev. Lynn not to show up the next day."

When the hearing took place, Democrats proceeded to clobber Republicans. "Where are the women?" asked New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney as she looked at the all-male first panel for the hearing. (Two women testified in the hearing's second panel, but Maloney and her fellow Democrats ignored that.)

Issa explained that Democrats had requested Barry Lynn, that Lynn was invited, and that Democrats then retracted the Lynn request. As for Fluke, Issa said Republicans had never heard of the Democrats' last-minute choice. "I asked our staff what is her background, what has she done," Issa said at the hearing. "They did the usual that we do when we're not provided the three days and the forms to go with it. They did a Google search. They looked and found that she was, in fact, and is a college student who appears to have become energized over this issue and participated in approximately a 45-minute press conference…I cannot and will not arbitrarily take a majority or minority witness if they do not have the appropriate credentials, both for a hearing at the full committee of the U.S. House of Representatives and if we cannot vet them in a timely fashion." (Fluke is in fact a 30 year-old law student with an extensive history of activism in leftist causes.)

So the Fluke controversy was born. In a letter to committee Democrats Friday, Issa said the "aspersions directed at Ms. Sandra Fluke made by radio show host Rush Limbaugh" were "inappropriate." But Issa also accused Democrats of "failure to recognize your own contributions to the denigration of this discussion and attacks on people of religious faith." Issa again explained his handling of the February 16 hearing, complaining that Democrats "have appeared outright giddy in attempting to distort the testimony offered and purpose of the hearing."

"All of you, even the minority members who walked out of the hearing before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified, knew very well that the rhetorical question, 'Where are the women?' and the claim that the hearing was somehow an assault on women was disingenuous and inflammatory," Issa wrote.

So Issa had his reasons for refusing to give Fluke a spot. And indeed, as it turned out, she didn't have much to say. The entire basis of her testimony to the Democratic Steering Committee the next week was that she had "a friend" who had a medical problem that required her to take birth control pills. Georgetown's policy covers her friend's condition, Fluke said, but did not actually pay for the pills, which caused her friend to stop purchasing and taking the pills and, later, to suffer a medical emergency. It was all pretty vague, and certainly wasn't expert testimony.

But then Limbaugh entered the picture and Democrats, including President Obama himself, jumped on the issue. Could it have been avoided if Issa had allowed Fluke, an unqualified witness but one the Democrats wanted, to testify? For Issa, it was a tough choice.

GOP: Dems 'played games' over Sandra Fluke | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Has this chick ever heard of a brush or shampoo?

You don't think her "looks" were exactly what they were supposed to be for this appearance? Consider your response. That is exactly what they were looking for idiot. She looks VERY un-slutty... buisness like.. studious. If she looked like a primped up beauty queen the "slut" tag would have probably stuck. Obviously in the wake of the gauntlet thrown down by those that asked the question "where are the women?" she was a perfect choice and had she not looked very "average" and non-threatening to the average woman she would not have elicited so much immediate support among half of the voting public..other average women.

 

[mudwhistle]

Dems Play Games Over Sandra Flukes' Temstimony

Given the intensifying political fight over Rush Limbaugh's remarks about Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University activist/law student who was not allowed to testify at a February 16 House hearing on the contraceptive mandate issue, the question arises: Why didn't Republicans just allow Fluke to testify? The testimony she ended up giving at a Democrats-only meeting a few days later wasn't particularly compelling, and, had Fluke appeared before the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Republicans could have pretty easily challenged her positions. Yet the GOP refused to allow Fluke to appear, and events have raced along since then. So why not let Fluke speak?

"The Democrats played games with us the day before [the hearing]," says a Republican committee source. "After days of asking for a witness, they waited until the last minute, the afternoon before the hearing. They asked us to invite Rev. Barry Lynn [head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State] and Ms. Fluke. We said we'll invite one, per standard procedure. We formally invited Rev. Lynn, and the Democrats, at 4:30 pm, changed their mind and said they wanted Fluke. We said too late. They told Rev. Lynn not to show up the next day."

When the hearing took place, Democrats proceeded to clobber Republicans. "Where are the women?" asked New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney as she looked at the all-male first panel for the hearing. (Two women testified in the hearing's second panel, but Maloney and her fellow Democrats ignored that.)

Issa explained that Democrats had requested Barry Lynn, that Lynn was invited, and that Democrats then retracted the Lynn request. As for Fluke, Issa said Republicans had never heard of the Democrats' last-minute choice. "I asked our staff what is her background, what has she done," Issa said at the hearing. "They did the usual that we do when we're not provided the three days and the forms to go with it. They did a Google search. They looked and found that she was, in fact, and is a college student who appears to have become energized over this issue and participated in approximately a 45-minute press conference…I cannot and will not arbitrarily take a majority or minority witness if they do not have the appropriate credentials, both for a hearing at the full committee of the U.S. House of Representatives and if we cannot vet them in a timely fashion." (Fluke is in fact a 30 year-old law student with an extensive history of activism in leftist causes.)

So the Fluke controversy was born. In a letter to committee Democrats Friday, Issa said the "aspersions directed at Ms. Sandra Fluke made by radio show host Rush Limbaugh" were "inappropriate." But Issa also accused Democrats of "failure to recognize your own contributions to the denigration of this discussion and attacks on people of religious faith." Issa again explained his handling of the February 16 hearing, complaining that Democrats "have appeared outright giddy in attempting to distort the testimony offered and purpose of the hearing."

"All of you, even the minority members who walked out of the hearing before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified, knew very well that the rhetorical question, 'Where are the women?' and the claim that the hearing was somehow an assault on women was disingenuous and inflammatory," Issa wrote.

So Issa had his reasons for refusing to give Fluke a spot. And indeed, as it turned out, she didn't have much to say. The entire basis of her testimony to the Democratic Steering Committee the next week was that she had "a friend" who had a medical problem that required her to take birth control pills. Georgetown's policy covers her friend's condition, Fluke said, but did not actually pay for the pills, which caused her friend to stop purchasing and taking the pills and, later, to suffer a medical emergency. It was all pretty vague, and certainly wasn't expert testimony.

But then Limbaugh entered the picture and Democrats, including President Obama himself, jumped on the issue. Could it have been avoided if Issa had allowed Fluke, an unqualified witness but one the Democrats wanted, to testify? For Issa, it was a tough choice.

GOP: Dems 'played games' over Sandra Fluke | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Has this chick ever heard of a brush or shampoo?

You don't think her "looks" were exactly what they were supposed to be for this appearance? Consider your response. That is exactly what they were looking for idiot. She looks VERY un-slutty... buisness like.. studious. If she looked like a primped up beauty queen the "slut" tag would have probably stuck. Obviously in the wake of the gauntlet thrown down by those that asked the question "where are the women?" she was a perfect choice and had she not looked very "average" and non-threatening to the average woman she would not have elicited so much immediate support among half of the voting public..other average women.

This is the left's vison of what a woman should be.

It is not what your average woman is.

You have let this go completely over your head.

The whole thing was a setup. The Democrats broke their own rules to get this woman in front of the cameras. They knew what they were doing and they knew it was dishonest......and you like the fact that they were dishonest. You're probably proud of them, but I bet you're one of those folks that has a low opinion of congress.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now looky who is the fashion mod. Deciding what the average woman is, already.

 

[Stephanie]

Dems Play Games Over Sandra Flukes' Temstimony

Given the intensifying political fight over Rush Limbaugh's remarks about Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University activist/law student who was not allowed to testify at a February 16 House hearing on the contraceptive mandate issue, the question arises: Why didn't Republicans just allow Fluke to testify? The testimony she ended up giving at a Democrats-only meeting a few days later wasn't particularly compelling, and, had Fluke appeared before the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Republicans could have pretty easily challenged her positions. Yet the GOP refused to allow Fluke to appear, and events have raced along since then. So why not let Fluke speak?

"The Democrats played games with us the day before [the hearing]," says a Republican committee source. "After days of asking for a witness, they waited until the last minute, the afternoon before the hearing. They asked us to invite Rev. Barry Lynn [head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State] and Ms. Fluke. We said we'll invite one, per standard procedure. We formally invited Rev. Lynn, and the Democrats, at 4:30 pm, changed their mind and said they wanted Fluke. We said too late. They told Rev. Lynn not to show up the next day."

When the hearing took place, Democrats proceeded to clobber Republicans. "Where are the women?" asked New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney as she looked at the all-male first panel for the hearing. (Two women testified in the hearing's second panel, but Maloney and her fellow Democrats ignored that.)

Issa explained that Democrats had requested Barry Lynn, that Lynn was invited, and that Democrats then retracted the Lynn request. As for Fluke, Issa said Republicans had never heard of the Democrats' last-minute choice. "I asked our staff what is her background, what has she done," Issa said at the hearing. "They did the usual that we do when we're not provided the three days and the forms to go with it. They did a Google search. They looked and found that she was, in fact, and is a college student who appears to have become energized over this issue and participated in approximately a 45-minute press conference…I cannot and will not arbitrarily take a majority or minority witness if they do not have the appropriate credentials, both for a hearing at the full committee of the U.S. House of Representatives and if we cannot vet them in a timely fashion." (Fluke is in fact a 30 year-old law student with an extensive history of activism in leftist causes.)

So the Fluke controversy was born. In a letter to committee Democrats Friday, Issa said the "aspersions directed at Ms. Sandra Fluke made by radio show host Rush Limbaugh" were "inappropriate." But Issa also accused Democrats of "failure to recognize your own contributions to the denigration of this discussion and attacks on people of religious faith." Issa again explained his handling of the February 16 hearing, complaining that Democrats "have appeared outright giddy in attempting to distort the testimony offered and purpose of the hearing."

"All of you, even the minority members who walked out of the hearing before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified, knew very well that the rhetorical question, 'Where are the women?' and the claim that the hearing was somehow an assault on women was disingenuous and inflammatory," Issa wrote.

So Issa had his reasons for refusing to give Fluke a spot. And indeed, as it turned out, she didn't have much to say. The entire basis of her testimony to the Democratic Steering Committee the next week was that she had "a friend" who had a medical problem that required her to take birth control pills. Georgetown's policy covers her friend's condition, Fluke said, but did not actually pay for the pills, which caused her friend to stop purchasing and taking the pills and, later, to suffer a medical emergency. It was all pretty vague, and certainly wasn't expert testimony.

But then Limbaugh entered the picture and Democrats, including President Obama himself, jumped on the issue. Could it have been avoided if Issa had allowed Fluke, an unqualified witness but one the Democrats wanted, to testify? For Issa, it was a tough choice.

GOP: Dems 'played games' over Sandra Fluke | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Has this chick ever heard of a brush or shampoo?

You don't think her "looks" were exactly what they were supposed to be for this appearance? Consider your response. That is exactly what they were looking for idiot. She looks VERY un-slutty... buisness like.. studious. If she looked like a primped up beauty queen the "slut" tag would have probably stuck. Obviously in the wake of the gauntlet thrown down by those that asked the question "where are the women?" she was a perfect choice and had she not looked very "average" and non-threatening to the average woman she would not have elicited so much immediate support among half of the voting public..other average women.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Dems Went Around Congress To Feature Flukes' Testimony

.....After REPUBLICANS had....

....EXCLUDED (See: Censored) her....

.....EARLIER!!!!!

You've got nothin.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Dems Play Games Over Sandra Flukes' Temstimony

Given the intensifying political fight over Rush Limbaugh's remarks about Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University activist/law student who was not allowed to testify at a February 16 House hearing on the contraceptive mandate issue, the question arises: Why didn't Republicans just allow Fluke to testify? The testimony she ended up giving at a Democrats-only meeting a few days later wasn't particularly compelling, and, had Fluke appeared before the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Republicans could have pretty easily challenged her positions. Yet the GOP refused to allow Fluke to appear, and events have raced along since then. So why not let Fluke speak?

"The Democrats played games with us the day before [the hearing]," says a Republican committee source. "After days of asking for a witness, they waited until the last minute, the afternoon before the hearing. They asked us to invite Rev. Barry Lynn [head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State] and Ms. Fluke. We said we'll invite one, per standard procedure. We formally invited Rev. Lynn, and the Democrats, at 4:30 pm, changed their mind and said they wanted Fluke. We said too late. They told Rev. Lynn not to show up the next day."

When the hearing took place, Democrats proceeded to clobber Republicans. "Where are the women?" asked New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney as she looked at the all-male first panel for the hearing. (Two women testified in the hearing's second panel, but Maloney and her fellow Democrats ignored that.)

Issa explained that Democrats had requested Barry Lynn, that Lynn was invited, and that Democrats then retracted the Lynn request. As for Fluke, Issa said Republicans had never heard of the Democrats' last-minute choice. "I asked our staff what is her background, what has she done," Issa said at the hearing. "They did the usual that we do when we're not provided the three days and the forms to go with it. They did a Google search. They looked and found that she was, in fact, and is a college student who appears to have become energized over this issue and participated in approximately a 45-minute press conference…I cannot and will not arbitrarily take a majority or minority witness if they do not have the appropriate credentials, both for a hearing at the full committee of the U.S. House of Representatives and if we cannot vet them in a timely fashion." (Fluke is in fact a 30 year-old law student with an extensive history of activism in leftist causes.)

So the Fluke controversy was born. In a letter to committee Democrats Friday, Issa said the "aspersions directed at Ms. Sandra Fluke made by radio show host Rush Limbaugh" were "inappropriate." But Issa also accused Democrats of "failure to recognize your own contributions to the denigration of this discussion and attacks on people of religious faith." Issa again explained his handling of the February 16 hearing, complaining that Democrats "have appeared outright giddy in attempting to distort the testimony offered and purpose of the hearing."

"All of you, even the minority members who walked out of the hearing before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified, knew very well that the rhetorical question, 'Where are the women?' and the claim that the hearing was somehow an assault on women was disingenuous and inflammatory," Issa wrote.

So Issa had his reasons for refusing to give Fluke a spot. And indeed, as it turned out, she didn't have much to say. The entire basis of her testimony to the Democratic Steering Committee the next week was that she had "a friend" who had a medical problem that required her to take birth control pills. Georgetown's policy covers her friend's condition, Fluke said, but did not actually pay for the pills, which caused her friend to stop purchasing and taking the pills and, later, to suffer a medical emergency. It was all pretty vague, and certainly wasn't expert testimony.

But then Limbaugh entered the picture and Democrats, including President Obama himself, jumped on the issue. Could it have been avoided if Issa had allowed Fluke, an unqualified witness but one the Democrats wanted, to testify? For Issa, it was a tough choice.

GOP: Dems 'played games' over Sandra Fluke | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Has this chick ever heard of a brush or shampoo?

One Barbie isn't ENOUGH, for Republicans??!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Now looky who is the fashion mod. Deciding what the average woman is, already.

Who KNEW Mudd-Butt was a hair-consultant, on the down-lo.....er, side?

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