Democrats Folding????

The fact is ObamaCare does not replace private insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid. If you have health coverage you like, you can keep it.

• ObamaCare doesn't regulate your health care, it's regulates health insurance and some of the worst practices of the for-profit health care industry.

ObamaCare Facts: Facts on the Affordable Care Act


Obamacare premiums will be cheaper than the CBO projected.

Please tell that to 300,000 people in Florida whose health policies were just cancelled. But of course you believe they're all lying, right?


You can credit the Insurance Companies Republicans think are so honest and pure for that.
They are a greedy bunch, and are looking for ways to make up for what Obamacare is going to preclude them from doing, and that is, screwing people left and right.

Of course, you and other conservatives would prefer to keep what we had, don't mind being screwed over, and don't mind that millions are left without healthcare and that we taxpayers (including you, if you pay taxes), end up paying for their ER treatment.


Some consumer advocates give another reason, saying that insurance companies are using this as an opportunity to dump their most costly enrollees. For example, both Independence and Highmark are cancelling their “guaranteed issue” policies, which were sold to customers with pre-existing medical conditions.

They may be “doing this as an opportunity to push their populations into the exchange and purge their systems” of policyholders they no longer want, said Jerry Flanagan, an attorney with the advocacy group Consumer Watchdog in California.

Insurance companies have denied that they are “purging their systems” or dumping any of their customers, saying that they are encouraging these people to re-enroll in one of their other plans. Insurers are maintaining that these plans will offer “richer benefits” and “in most cases, will be at a lower rate.”
Over 300,000 Health Policies Cancelled in Florida, Hundreds of Thousands More Across Country | Independent Journal Review

So why didn't they "dump" their "most costly enrollees" before Obamacare?!? :cuckoo:

You can spin this any way you want Mertex - at the end of the day these people had insurance before Obamacare and are left with none after Obamacare.

Yes, it really is that simple. You lose. Your argument is weak, pathetic, and simply doesn't hold up when examined with an ounce of common sense.
 
More Dims should jump ship when they find out that Obama lied through his teeth when he claimed that all Americans that liked their healthcare insurance, would keep their healthcare insurance.

Fucking goddamn liar !

You've got that right [MENTION=42777]DigitalDrifter[/MENTION]! Even the personal propaganda wing of the Dumbocrats - MSNBC - were faced with such indisputable, overwhelming evidence, that they had no choice but to admit that Obama is a liar!

Obama knew millions could not keep their health insurance - Investigations
 
More Dims should jump ship when they find out that Obama lied through his teeth when he claimed that all Americans that liked their healthcare insurance, would keep their healthcare insurance.

Fucking goddamn liar !

They see their "political careers" going down the tubes. Now, you will hear all the stories from the Dems as to how "I didn't vote for Obamacare" as they get voted from office.

What was it that the Japanese Admiral said when they attacked Pearl Harbor??

"I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant".

America is waking up from it's BS stupor and they're finding out that there is an attempt to screw them. Enjoy the time you have left dems…...
 
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Ha,ha, your posts make me laugh. Republicans are the only adults in the room? Maybe the only adult loons in the room.

Republicans don't want the government to help poor, brown or black people.

They hate welfare, but love the military (the program most closely resembling Socialism)!

They also love immigration control, love law and order, want the government to enforce healthcare decisions on women!

All Government. Bwahahaha.....

Republicans love government just as much as Democrats, only their priorities are different.

Republicans: "Stop the government from doing what I don't like, but empower the government to do all the things I do like!"

The funniest part of your post is where you say Republicans are willing to admit their mistakes. I guess that is why they are trying to put the blame on Obama for the shutdown, because they are so honest! Bwahahaha......:lol::lol::lol:

Both parties are imperfect, but the dims are way more dishonest! Dumbasses like you can't handle or see the truth! :cool:

Nah, I believe the Reps have proven over and over they are the most dishonest and disingenuous of all, bar none. Dumbasses like you are in denial.



Really?


Really- really?????



Watch this, loser:

"President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years."
Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance - Investigations




Wow.....the snake in the White House turns out to be "the most dishonest and disingenuous of all,".....

....and you turn out to be the biggest loser in town!

Congrats.
 
Both parties are imperfect, but the dims are way more dishonest! Dumbasses like you can't handle or see the truth! :cool:

Nah, I believe the Reps have proven over and over they are the most dishonest and disingenuous of all, bar none. Dumbasses like you are in denial.



Really?


Really- really?????



Watch this, loser:

"President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years."
Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance - Investigations




Wow.....the snake in the White House turns out to be "the most dishonest and disingenuous of all,".....

....and you turn out to be the biggest loser in town!

Congrats.

Obama is not responsible for the HMO's changing their policies. The law states that if a policy is changed in any significant manner it must comply with the ACA going forward. Nothing is forcing that HMO's to change their existing policies. They are doing it on their own initiative.
 
Obama is not responsible for the HMO's changing their policies. The law states that if a policy is changed in any significant manner it must comply with the ACA going forward. Nothing is forcing that HMO's to change their existing policies. They are doing it on their own initiative.

So as I already asked [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] (and you were apparently to afraid to address), why didn't these HMO's "change their policies" before Obamacare.

How odd and interesting that this happened only after Obamacare... :eusa_doh:
 
Obama is not responsible for the HMO's changing their policies. The law states that if a policy is changed in any significant manner it must comply with the ACA going forward. Nothing is forcing that HMO's to change their existing policies. They are doing it on their own initiative.

So as I already asked [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] (and you were apparently to afraid to address), why didn't these HMO's "change their policies" before Obamacare.

How odd and interesting that this happened only after Obamacare... :eusa_doh:

HMO's change policies all the time, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies before the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies while the ACA was in the legislative process, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Now they are changing their policies to comply with the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

In the future they will continue to change their policies, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].
 
Only a scumbag would defend the Stuttereing Clusterfuck on this one....

The motherfucker lied.

Just that simple. He lied.

And the only people defending him are knob-slurping, knee pad wearing sycophants.

He lied. Even the Washington Post said he lied. Gave him four (4) Pinocchios

Obama?s pledge that ?no one will take away? your health plan

The president’s statements were sweeping and unequivocal — and made both before and after the bill became law. The White House now cites technicalities to avoid admitting that he went too far in his repeated pledge, which, after all, is one of the most famous statements of his presidency.

pinocchio_4.jpg


The piece of shit lied. And only the lowest form of life on Earth, a dimocrap, would defend the lie
 
Only a scumbag would defend the Stuttereing Clusterfuck on this one....

The motherfucker lied.

Just that simple. He lied.

And the only people defending him are knob-slurping, knee pad wearing sycophants.

He lied. Even the Washington Post said he lied. Gave him four (4) Pinocchios

Obama?s pledge that ?no one will take away? your health plan

The president’s statements were sweeping and unequivocal — and made both before and after the bill became law. The White House now cites technicalities to avoid admitting that he went too far in his repeated pledge, which, after all, is one of the most famous statements of his presidency.

pinocchio_4.jpg


The piece of shit lied. And only the lowest form of life on Earth, a dimocrap, would defend the lie

Indeed. One name: Valerie Jarrett. The modern day Joseph Goebbels.

Funny - way back when, we could put a man on the moon and return him to earth safely. Now the federal government can't even launch a website.

Geezz…isn't "Progress" great?? :lol:
 
Obama is not responsible for the HMO's changing their policies. The law states that if a policy is changed in any significant manner it must comply with the ACA going forward. Nothing is forcing that HMO's to change their existing policies. They are doing it on their own initiative.

So as I already asked [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] (and you were apparently to afraid to address), why didn't these HMO's "change their policies" before Obamacare.

How odd and interesting that this happened only after Obamacare... :eusa_doh:

HMO's change policies all the time, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies before the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies while the ACA was in the legislative process, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Now they are changing their policies to comply with the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

In the future they will continue to change their policies, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Really [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION]? How odd that there was never ONE story in the news about people losing their policy before Obamacare... :cuckoo:
 
Only a scumbag would defend the Stuttereing Clusterfuck on this one....

The motherfucker lied.

Just that simple. He lied.

And the only people defending him are knob-slurping, knee pad wearing sycophants.

He lied. Even the Washington Post said he lied. Gave him four (4) Pinocchios

Obama?s pledge that ?no one will take away? your health plan

The president’s statements were sweeping and unequivocal — and made both before and after the bill became law. The White House now cites technicalities to avoid admitting that he went too far in his repeated pledge, which, after all, is one of the most famous statements of his presidency.

pinocchio_4.jpg


The piece of shit lied. And only the lowest form of life on Earth, a dimocrap, would defend the lie

Indeed. One name: Valerie Jarrett. The modern day Joseph Goebbels.

Funny - way back when, we could put a man on the moon and return him to earth safely. Now the federal government can't even launch a website.

Geezz…isn't "Progress" great??
:lol:

:lmao: :clap2: :lmao:
 
So as I already asked [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] (and you were apparently to afraid to address), why didn't these HMO's "change their policies" before Obamacare.

How odd and interesting that this happened only after Obamacare... :eusa_doh:

HMO's change policies all the time, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies before the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies while the ACA was in the legislative process, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Now they are changing their policies to comply with the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

In the future they will continue to change their policies, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Really [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION]? How odd that there was never ONE story in the news about people losing their policy before Obamacare... :cuckoo:

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because they "maxed out" their "lifetime allowance", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because of "preexisting conditions", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?
 
Only a scumbag would defend the Stuttereing Clusterfuck on this one....

The motherfucker lied.

Just that simple. He lied.

And the only people defending him are knob-slurping, knee pad wearing sycophants.

He lied. Even the Washington Post said he lied. Gave him four (4) Pinocchios

Obama?s pledge that ?no one will take away? your health plan

The president’s statements were sweeping and unequivocal — and made both before and after the bill became law. The White House now cites technicalities to avoid admitting that he went too far in his repeated pledge, which, after all, is one of the most famous statements of his presidency.

pinocchio_4.jpg


The piece of shit lied. And only the lowest form of life on Earth, a dimocrap, would defend the lie

It's literally the exact same thing as the infamous "read my lips: no...new...taxes" statement by George H.W. Bush. I've never heard a Conservative attempt to defend or twist that. Only Dumbocrats will defend the despicable and indefensible.

I mean, the man is on VIDEO over and over and over and still these fucking idiot Dumbocrats try to convince everyone he never said this. Now, even MSNBC has come out with a story that sources inside his administration confirmed that he knew this was an outrageous lie at the time he was saying it. He knew millions would lose their coverage.

If Obama was caught on video molesting a child, Dumbocrats would claim that the 7 year old was just young looking and was actually 27. They will never be honest about the failures, lies, and scandals of Obama and his regime.
 
HMO's change policies all the time, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies before the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

They changed their policies while the ACA was in the legislative process, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Now they are changing their policies to comply with the ACA, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

In the future they will continue to change their policies, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION].

Really [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION]? How odd that there was never ONE story in the news about people losing their policy before Obamacare... :cuckoo:

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because they "maxed out" their "lifetime allowance", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because of "preexisting conditions", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

:lmao:

Dude - if they "maxed out their lifetime allowance" then all contractual obligations had been met! Want to try again?!?

As far as "pre-existing conditions" - again, you contractually cannot have cancer and then decide to go sign up for health insurance to cover that cancer. Want to try again on this one as well?!?

Nobody was ever dropped who met their obligations of the contract (payments, conditions, etc.). But they are now thanks to Obamacare.
 
Really [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION]? How odd that there was never ONE story in the news about people losing their policy before Obamacare... :cuckoo:

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because they "maxed out" their "lifetime allowance", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because of "preexisting conditions", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

:lmao:

Dude - if they "maxed out their lifetime allowance" then all contractual obligations had been met! Want to try again?!?

As far as "pre-existing conditions" - again, you contractually cannot have cancer and then decide to go sign up for health insurance to cover that cancer. Want to try again on this one as well?!?

Nobody was ever dropped who met their obligations of the contract (payments, conditions, etc.). But they are now thanks to Obamacare.

You have been provided with facts that refuted your allegation, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]. Instead of acknowledging that you were wrong you disingenuously attempt to spin your way out. Thank you for tacitly admitting that you have nothing worthwhile to add to this thread. Have a nice day.
 
How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because they "maxed out" their "lifetime allowance", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

How did you miss all the stories about people having their policies cancelled because of "preexisting conditions", [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]?

:lmao:

Dude - if they "maxed out their lifetime allowance" then all contractual obligations had been met! Want to try again?!?

As far as "pre-existing conditions" - again, you contractually cannot have cancer and then decide to go sign up for health insurance to cover that cancer. Want to try again on this one as well?!?

Nobody was ever dropped who met their obligations of the contract (payments, conditions, etc.). But they are now thanks to Obamacare.

You have been provided with facts that refuted your allegation, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]. Instead of acknowledging that you were wrong you disingenuously attempt to spin your way out. Thank you for tacitly admitting that you have nothing worthwhile to add to this thread. Have a nice day.

In other words, Rottweiler just owned me with facts - I better use favorite libtard buzz words and head for the hills! :lmao:

Sorry junior - you know I'm 100% correct on this. Millions of people across America lost their insurance through no fault of their own because of Obamacare. And that never happened before Obamcare. No matter how hard you try to spin this Derideo, I'll be here exposing your weak spin with facts.
 
:lmao:

Dude - if they "maxed out their lifetime allowance" then all contractual obligations had been met! Want to try again?!?

As far as "pre-existing conditions" - again, you contractually cannot have cancer and then decide to go sign up for health insurance to cover that cancer. Want to try again on this one as well?!?

Nobody was ever dropped who met their obligations of the contract (payments, conditions, etc.). But they are now thanks to Obamacare.

You have been provided with facts that refuted your allegation, [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]. Instead of acknowledging that you were wrong you disingenuously attempt to spin your way out. Thank you for tacitly admitting that you have nothing worthwhile to add to this thread. Have a nice day.

In other words, Rottweiler just owned me with facts - I better use favorite libtard buzz words and head for the hills! :lmao:

Sorry junior - you know I'm 100% correct on this. Millions of people across America lost their insurance through no fault of their own because of Obamacare. And that never happened before Obamcare. No matter how hard you try to spin this Derideo, I'll be here exposing your weak spin with facts.

Here is a book you might find useful.

Cuckoo-Land.jpg
 
Want to try again? :lmao:

you can laugh, I suppose, but really, is there some reason you are being selective about what the constitution provides? because last I checked, the preamble to the constitution says the government is to act for the general welfare of the people. and Article I, Section 8 provides: "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text


Note, specifically, that the general welfare clause is incorporated into that clause which provides for taxation. that means the government can levy and spend money on things it thinks are good for society.

you're welcome, hon.
 

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