Democrats, Detroit and Newark, is this our future?

[cutter]

The dems share the blame for jobs moving to China and other offshore locations.
If they had not sent Bush to Vietnam we would not be importing stuff from there now.

We import more jobs than we export.
But don't let facts get in the way of your posting. They never have before.

Got a link because I don't believe that. Unless you are talking about all the illegals.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Most Cities & States ruled by Democrats have become miserable Third World Nightmares. People are fleeing Blue States in droves. The only problem with that is that they're moving to Red States. How long will it be before these idiots infect and destroy the Red States too? I'm very happy & relieved i don't live in a Blue State. Democrats bring nothing but Third World Misery everywhere they go. Americans better wake up and vote them out or our entire nation will resemble Third World Hellholes like Detroit,Chicago,Philadelphia,and so many other areas controlled by Democrats.

The wealthiest states in the country are overwhelmingly blue.


America's wealthiest (and poorest) states - Sep. 16, 2010

I was looking at your list and had to laugh.

The top ten richest states? Let start with New Hampshire which is number 1 on your top 10 richest states list. What is the cost of living in New Hampshire? And what is the cost of living on your other list number 1 state, and that being Mississippi?

Cost of Living Comparison, Salary Calculator - CityRating.com

By the way according to my link the average income for New Hampshire is 36,000.00

 

[Toro]

Didn't Orange County go bankrupt?

Isn't that where Reagan was from?

Or was that Nixon? I can't remember.

Anyways, lots of Republicans in the OC.

And going bust getting screwed by Wall Street is a very Republican way to go tits up.

LOL.

Yeah, great analogy. Almost like identical! Wowzers! Like H2O and H2O2

One guy pulls down a county by gambling with the pension fund and the county is back up and running 18 months later is JUST LIKE Detroit which has been in the crapper for 5 years and gets worse with each passing year.

I'm not worried about getting screwed by Wall Street because Obama's going to decide when they've made enough money.

Right. The Treasurer "gambled" because those whacky Orange Country Republicans didn't want their taxes raised but wanted all those great schools and nice roads, so he felt he had to find the revenue somewhere. AND he got to make some slimy traders rich. It's a great testament to Voodoo Economics Supply Side Economics, right in the very heart of its, er, <cough> <cough> "intellectual" (snicker) home.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CA: the size of Japan, the population of Korea and an economic suicide complete with Obamavilles and Democrat created dustbowls

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Didn't Orange County go bankrupt?

Isn't that where Reagan was from?

Or was that Nixon? I can't remember.

Anyways, lots of Republicans in the OC.

And going bust getting screwed by Wall Street is a very Republican way to go tits up.

LOL.

Yeah, great analogy. Almost like identical! Wowzers! Like H2O and H2O2

One guy pulls down a county by gambling with the pension fund and the county is back up and running 18 months later is JUST LIKE Detroit which has been in the crapper for 5 years and gets worse with each passing year.

I'm not worried about getting screwed by Wall Street because Obama's going to decide when they've made enough money.

Right. The Treasurer "gambled" because those whacky Orange Country Republicans didn't want their taxes raised but wanted all those great schools and nice roads, so he felt he had to find the revenue somewhere. AND he got to make some slimy traders rich. It's a great testament to Voodoo Economics Supply Side Economics, right in the very heart of its, er, <cough> <cough> "intellectual" (snicker) home.

I don't know kind oif looks like orange county is doing better then nation wide.
Orange County Cost of Living: California (CA) - CityRating.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Didn't Orange County go bankrupt?

Isn't that where Reagan was from?

Or was that Nixon? I can't remember.

Anyways, lots of Republicans in the OC.

And going bust getting screwed by Wall Street is a very Republican way to go tits up.

LOL.

Yeah, great analogy. Almost like identical! Wowzers! Like H2O and H2O2

One guy pulls down a county by gambling with the pension fund and the county is back up and running 18 months later is JUST LIKE Detroit which has been in the crapper for 5 years and gets worse with each passing year.

I'm not worried about getting screwed by Wall Street because Obama's going to decide when they've made enough money.

Right. The Treasurer "gambled" because those whacky Orange Country Republicans didn't want their taxes raised but wanted all those great schools and nice roads, so he felt he had to find the revenue somewhere. AND he got to make some slimy traders rich. It's a great testament to Voodoo Economics Supply Side Economics, right in the very heart of its, er, <cough> <cough> "intellectual" (snicker) home.

you know that the Democrat run state of CA cut funding to Orange County, that's what caused him to try to make up the shortfall, right? Did you forget to mention that?

And when Orange County fell, where the fuck was the state? Answer: nowhere! The Dem Controlled state turned down every opportunity to help.

But because the County is populated with adults, they worked it out without help from the Nanny State.

Look at Detroit, look at GM. See the difference?

 

[Toro]

you know that the Democrat run state of CA cut funding to Orange County, that's what caused him to try to make up the shortfall, right? Did you forget to mention that?

And when Orange County fell, where the fuck was the state? Answer: nowhere! The Dem Controlled state turned down every opportunity to help.

But because the County is populated with adults, they worked it out without help from the Nanny State.

Look at Detroit, look at GM. See the difference?

"Worked it out?" They fucking declared bankruptcy and hired some evil trial lawyers to sue Merrill Lynch!

Right.

So one of the richest counties in the country gets funding cut, but the Republican county chooses not to raise taxes nor cut spending to meet the shortfall. Instead, its the big bad government's fault for not bailing them out.

Got it.

IWO

Democrat bankruptcy = bad Democrats
Republican bankruptcy = Democrats fault

 

[The T]

CA: the size of Japan, the population of Korea and an economic suicide complete with Obamavilles and Democrat created dustbowls

And the mentality of the failing EU Statists.

 

[Toro]

Just in case anyone has the wrong impression, I'm thinking about relocating out west, and California isn't even a consideration. From here, it looks like a basket case.

 

[uscitizen]

The higher cost of living states have higher wages and the lower cost of living has lower wages.

 

[thereisnospoon]

In case you're wondering, we already have places in the USA where we've fully implemented all the "great ideas" Progressives are trying to force on the entire country. These ideas include, anti-business, pro-union, high tax and regulation Nanny state gone wild.

In the heartland we have Detroit, once the epicenter of American commerce and the symbol of US entrepreneurship. The vehicles they manufactured were the envy of the world and easily accessible to almost every American. Detroit is now a dead, bankrupt city brought low by the UAW and one Party Democrat rule for generations.

In the East we have Newark, another one-Party run city, the second unsafest city in the county, (take a guess which is the first). The city is in financial trouble and instead of telling the unions to take a hit on their coffer draining pension, the city will cut CURRENT police force. Can you imagine anything more boneheaded and dangerous and suicidal?

The state of CA is de facto bankrupt and they just refused to postpone business killing Prop 23. They have committed economic suicide and will ask the rest of the country to bail them out.

When will even Democrats realize their ideas suck?

Never! These policies create dependency on government. Dependency that democrats count on for votes.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

you know that the Democrat run state of CA cut funding to Orange County, that's what caused him to try to make up the shortfall, right? Did you forget to mention that?

And when Orange County fell, where the fuck was the state? Answer: nowhere! The Dem Controlled state turned down every opportunity to help.

But because the County is populated with adults, they worked it out without help from the Nanny State.

Look at Detroit, look at GM. See the difference?

"Worked it out?" They fucking declared bankruptcy and hired some evil trial lawyers to sue Merrill Lynch!

Right.

So one of the richest counties in the country gets funding cut, but the Republican county chooses not to raise taxes nor cut spending to meet the shortfall. Instead, its the big bad government's fault for not bailing them out.

Got it.

IWO

Democrat bankruptcy = bad Democrats
Republican bankruptcy = Democrats fault

Yes, they worked their problems out through bankruptcy. Amazing.

And they were back up and running in less time then Obama's Stimulus took to drive unemployment from under 8 to 10%.

Where's Orange County's credit rating today? Where's California?

Maybe Orange County can credit enhance California next debt issue?

Republican Bankruptcy= Handled like adults, didn't take a nickle from the state or Uncle Sam back in business in 18 months

Democrat Bankruptcy= Ignore rule of law, fuck over Senior secured creditors AND give the UAW equity and then pay them half a billion of US taxpayer money as a bonus. Just make bigger and bigger craters

 

[thereisnospoon]

The dems share the blame for jobs moving to China and other offshore locations.
If they had not sent Bush to Vietnam we would not be importing stuff from there now.

and that has to do with the subject matter of the thread how?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Misery loves company which is why all you assholes thanked the OP, and piss in each other's pockets.

yes. that was substantive and contributed so well to the thread. I await your next comment with baited breath

 

[snjmom]

If liberalism had caused the destruction of these cities, then Zurich and Munich should be in flames.

 

[thereisnospoon]

In case you're wondering, we already have places in the USA where we've fully implemented all the "great ideas" Progressives are trying to force on the entire country. These ideas include, anti-business, pro-union, high tax and regulation Nanny state gone wild.

In the heartland we have Detroit, once the epicenter of American commerce and the symbol of US entrepreneurship. The vehicles they manufactured were the envy of the world and easily accessible to almost every American. Detroit is now a dead, bankrupt city brought low by the UAW and one Party Democrat rule for generations.

In the East we have Newark, another one-Party run city, the second unsafest city in the county, (take a guess which is the first). The city is in financial trouble and instead of telling the unions to take a hit on their coffer draining pension, the city will cut CURRENT police force. Can you imagine anything more boneheaded and dangerous and suicidal?

The state of CA is de facto bankrupt and they just refused to postpone business killing Prop 23. They have committed economic suicide and will ask the rest of the country to bail them out.

When will even Democrats realize their ideas suck?

Oh my goodness one hardly knows where to start with a thread this action packed with flawed logic.
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Let's start with your original premise, shall we?

Detroit is in trouble because it's too liberal?

You don't suppose that the TRADE LAWS that allowed millions of Jap cars to erode Detroits monopoly on auto manufacturing had ANYTHING to do with the decline in Detroil, do you?

Of course you don't.

Such reality based thinking doesn't jib with that right wingt ideological POV, ergo reality must be ignored.

again., what does this have to do with the Left's political agenda and how it destroyed American cities.
Jap cars? That's racist.
No company should enjoy a monopoly. Ever.
The problem with the US Auto industry is it rested on the laurels of it's own reputation and arrogantly believed Americans would continue to buy as long as it said GM, Ford Or Chrysler on it. We are for the most part, savvy consumers. We see the difference between value and price. Japanese, Korean, German or Swedish cars are neither cheap or inferior. deal with it.
Now back ot the subject matter of the thread.
Liberals took over government of many large US Cities. And we only have the present conditions of these places to measure them by.

 

[The Rabbi]

perhaps if the O/P is concerned about being Detroit, then he should stop supporting policies which outsource our jobs.

Detroit's issues have nothing--zero--to do with outsourcing. We have plenty of domestic auto manufacturing jobs. Nissan, VW, Mercedes, BMW, Honda--all have domestic operations. None of them is located in Detroit, even though the trained workers and infrastructure already exist precisely because of high taxes, powerful unions, and extensive regulation in that city.
Try thinking about an issue for more than 3 seconds before posting. It will go a long way towards making you sound even somewhat thoughtful.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Unsustainable pension liability? Just look at govt employees of all types.
That is what is going to eat our lunch.

correct. all union backed defined benefit pensions are unsustainable. They are a ponzi scheme.

 

[thereisnospoon]

At least democrats confine poverty to the city level whereas the republicans like to spread it statewide.

That's the best you can come up with?
While the cities crumble the suburbs and the outlying regions surrounding large cities continue to flourish.
Cities. High taxes, unemployment, crime, weak court systems, greedy politicians, unions.....
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[Contumacious]

In case you're wondering, we already have places in the USA where we've fully implemented all the "great ideas" Progressives are trying to force on the entire country. These ideas include, anti-business, pro-union, high tax and regulation Nanny state gone wild.?

I agree that the Democrats/progressives coalition caused the nation to go into bankruptcy in 1935 ; we have never recovered.

But Eisenhower, and every Republican since then has had the opportunity to reverse the welfare/warfare state policies but have refused to do so.

So, they must equally share the blame.

The welfare/warfare state politicians have several cliches ready for when the rest of the nation looks like Newark:

1- we had good intentions

2- we meant well

3- it was the greedy bankers' fault

4- Ad nauseam

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