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"Implied" is how you made your assertion. I clearly demonstrated the problems with your post. Correct them.
You don't get to change the goal posts, son.
Is the American way of government bad?The assertion is implied that democracy and majority rule are somehow bad.
They aren't as long as we have a constitution with minority rights.
OK, you can apologize now and step off, son.
Conveniently didn't use "quote" to post that way you still have hope that no one will see the challenge I gave you to back up what I said. YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T. I think you're the one that needs to step oh mighty OBTUSE father.
"Implied" is how you made your assertion. I clearly demonstrated the problems with your post. Correct them.
You don't get to change the goal posts, son.
Is the American way of government bad?Conveniently didn't use "quote" to post that way you still have hope that no one will see the challenge I gave you to back up what I said. YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T. I think you're the one that needs to step oh mighty OBTUSE father.
What don't you comprehend? If I made an assertion, like you claimed, it would have a post number and it would be clear that it was written directly by me...not your spin on what you thought I meant by posting an article for discussion. That is not an assertion.
Which is it? Can't be bothand proof requires you pointing out my actual quote if you're going to accuse.
Now are we done?
People can be oppressed, not governments.
According to you, the right to freedom of speech "oppresses" many states that want to censor television and newspapers.
You're an idiot, NYBeaner.
Governments are of the people. If governments can't be oppressed why are conservatives constantly harping on 'state's rights'?
One straw man point after another, with you.
No if bubba boy. One, anybody can go back and read your post.
Two, you left out Jefferson and the democratic points of the Constitution.
Three, you won't answer if the American way of government is bad.
You are running, podjo, but ain't going no where.
"Implied" is how you made your assertion. I clearly demonstrated the problems with your post. Correct them.
You don't get to change the goal posts, son.
Is the American way of government bad?
What don't you comprehend? If I made an assertion, like you claimed, it would have a post number and it would be clear that it was written directly by me...not your spin on what you thought I meant by posting an article for discussion. That is not an assertion.
Which is it? Can't be bothand proof requires you pointing out my actual quote if you're going to accuse.
Now are we done?
What's so good about democracy and majority rule?
The founders of our nation held a deep abhorrence for democracy and majority rule. The word democracy appears in neither of our founding documents: our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wrote, "Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority."
John Adams predicted, "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
Edmund Randolph said, "... that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and follies of democracy."
Chief Justice John Marshall observed, "Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
In a word or two, the founders knew that a democracy would lead to the same kind of tyranny the colonies suffered under King George III. Our founders intended for us to have a republican form of limited government where political decision-making is kept to the minimum.
Democracy and Majority Rule by Walter E. Williams
Anyone else notice that as far as this thread has gone, and despite all his posts, beretta hasn't actually expressed one opinion or argument of his own,
save to say that the US isn't a democracy. Which is wrong.
All of his other posts are just substanceless sniping at the people in the thread willing to argue the point.
Explains why he didn't put this in the clean debate zone.
What's so good about democracy and majority rule?
The founders of our nation held a deep abhorrence for democracy and majority rule. The word democracy appears in neither of our founding documents: our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wrote, "Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority."
John Adams predicted, "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
Edmund Randolph said, "... that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and follies of democracy."
Chief Justice John Marshall observed, "Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
In a word or two, the founders knew that a democracy would lead to the same kind of tyranny the colonies suffered under King George III. Our founders intended for us to have a republican form of limited government where political decision-making is kept to the minimum.
Democracy and Majority Rule by Walter E. Williams
This is so far over the heads of the Libtards that it might as well be in orbit.
Anyone else notice that as far as this thread has gone, and despite all his posts, beretta hasn't actually expressed one opinion or argument of his own,
save to say that the US isn't a democracy. Which is wrong.
All of his other posts are just substanceless sniping at the people in the thread willing to argue the point.
Explains why he didn't put this in the clean debate zone.
NYCarbonbutt's last line of defense...the personal attack. He posts half a dozen straw man diversions and I'm supposed to jump on cue for him and Jake who makes up assertions as to what I said.
The fact that Jake can't post one assertion and NYCarbuncle can't draw me into one of his now infamous, "So you're sayng..." straw man arguments has frustrated him to the point of now launching ad hominem attacks.
Then in closing NYCan'tGetIt now wants to dictate where I'm supposed to put threads to please him.
What's so good about democracy and majority rule?
The founders of our nation held a deep abhorrence for democracy and majority rule. The word democracy appears in neither of our founding documents: our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wrote, "Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority."
John Adams predicted, "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
Edmund Randolph said, "... that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and follies of democracy."
Chief Justice John Marshall observed, "Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
In a word or two, the founders knew that a democracy would lead to the same kind of tyranny the colonies suffered under King George III. Our founders intended for us to have a republican form of limited government where political decision-making is kept to the minimum.
Democracy and Majority Rule by Walter E. Williams
I'm curious as to what suddenly prompted this topic?
Did your side lose an election recently, by any chance?
Do you repeat yourself willfully or is it dementia?
beretta304 is jumping through his own ass now.
beretta still ignores Jefferson, ignores minority protections, and the Constitution's democratic practices.
He is as bad as a communist, anarchist, or a libertarian.
Anyone else notice that as far as this thread has gone, and despite all his posts, beretta hasn't actually expressed one opinion or argument of his own,
save to say that the US isn't a democracy. Which is wrong.
All of his other posts are just substanceless sniping at the people in the thread willing to argue the point.
Explains why he didn't put this in the clean debate zone.
NYCarbonbutt's last line of defense...the personal attack. He posts half a dozen straw man diversions and I'm supposed to jump on cue for him and Jake who makes up assertions as to what I said.
The fact that Jake can't post one assertion and NYCarbuncle can't draw me into one of his now infamous, "So you're sayng..." straw man arguments has frustrated him to the point of now launching ad hominem attacks.
Then in closing NYCan'tGetIt now wants to dictate where I'm supposed to put threads to please him.
Anyone else notice that as far as this thread has gone, and despite all his posts, beretta hasn't actually expressed one opinion or argument of his own,
save to say that the US isn't a democracy. Which is wrong.
All of his other posts are just substanceless sniping at the people in the thread willing to argue the point.
Explains why he didn't put this in the clean debate zone.
NYCarbonbutt's last line of defense...the personal attack. He posts half a dozen straw man diversions and I'm supposed to jump on cue for him and Jake who makes up assertions as to what I said.
The fact that Jake can't post one assertion and NYCarbuncle can't draw me into one of his now infamous, "So you're sayng..." straw man arguments has frustrated him to the point of now launching ad hominem attacks.
Then in closing NYCan'tGetIt now wants to dictate where I'm supposed to put threads to please him.
8 Stages of democracy....
From Bondage to Spiritual Faith
From Spiritual Faith to Great Courage
From Courage to Liberty
From Liberty to Abundance
From Abundance to Complacency
From Complacency to Apathy
From Apathy to Dependence
From Dependence to back into Bondage
And in our country... the way the welfare state does with the entitlement junkies, and the way those who support the government redistribution to make it happen... we are dab smack in stage 7
Alexander Tyler was about spot on
When the people find they can vote themselves funds from the public treasury, thereafter the majority votes only for the candidate promising the most benefit from the public funds. The democracy falls apart over such loose fiscal policy and becomes a dictatorship.
The founders of our nation held a deep abhorrence for democracy and majority rule.
No shit they hated democracy. That's why in most states black, women, and even most men were excluded from voting. Thanks for the fucking history lesson, and welcome to the future.
Our Founders intended that government be run by wealthy white males to the exclusion of everyone else and it appears you would like the same.I. Our founders intended for us to have a republican form of limited government where political decision-making is kept to the minimum.
Listen "AutOhI PoopedMyself, don't put words in my mouth and tell me what I would like.
