Debate over evolution now allowed in Tenn. schools

[SniperFire]

Why do you fear letting youngsters debate such matters?

Because kids in science class are in class to learn facts as proven by science.

Facts such as spontaneous irreducible complexity?

 

[Katzndogz]

Liberals object to any ideas or concepts that are not preapproved liberal ideas and concepts.

Tell you what. You prove that creation happened like the Bible says it did. Should be a piece of cake, you being a Rethug right winger and all. You being the one that says science is a liberal ploy to undermine the youth of America.

If evolution need not be proved, creation need not be proved. Is mentioning that there is an alternative theory so harmful, so objectionable that no student should be exposed to such an idea? Surely, SURELY, if the science of evolution is so concrete and irrefutable it doesn't matter that there is exposure to creationism, any student of even below average intelligence can easily see that the theory of evolution is correct. What is the fear that libs have?

 

[Ravage]

I look forward to seeing them start alchemy classes too.
The only lesson to be learned from creationism, is how it doesn't resemble "science" in any discernible way and why teaching "both sides" is a grave disservice, not to mention filling kids' heads with LIES AND BULLSHIT.

 

[Katzndogz]

Why do you fear letting youngsters debate such matters?

Because kids in science class are in class to learn facts as proven by science.

Facts such as spontaneous irreducible complexity?

Since there is no scientific explanation for the spontaneous irreducible complexity not even a theory the only correct answer is that neither creation nor evolution can be entirely correct. There are still questions to be answered and that's what the libs want to stop. The question.

 

[Ravage]

Why do you fear letting youngsters debate such matters?

Because kids in science class are in class to learn facts as proven by science.

Facts such as spontaneous irreducible complexity?

Don't let SCIENCE kick you in your bitch ass on the way out the window!

Life As We Know It Nearly Created in Lab | LiveScience


This is the problem with being an ignoramus. You don't KNOW you're an ignoramus.


Get help.
Dunning
Your affliction is known and can be cured.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Excellent idea!


Why and how did gravity obtain a gravitational strength balance to within 1 part in 1015 at 1 second after the Big Bang, which is the only possible tuning that would allow life to form?

Are you afraid of such questions, flat-earther?

No, that's not the debate in theory of gravity.

Sure it is. Why should a flat-earther such as yourself be permitted to frame parameters of debate based on your fear of losing your belief in mythology?

How amusing.....a(n obvious) Jesus-freak....attempting to instruct others.....

.....regarding MYTHOLOGY.

 

[Sallow]

Next up..the Theory of Gravity gets debated.

Gravitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sallow]

Why do you fear letting youngsters debate such matters?

Because kids in science class are in class to learn facts as proven by science.

Facts such as spontaneous irreducible complexity?

That's probably just as valid as this theory..

Spontaneous generation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Nosmo King]

I think students should freely be able to debate the merits of astrology and alchemy.

What are you afraid of?

Wasting time on a phony subject.

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

The vast, vast majority of Americans? Really? Teach creationism in philosophy class, not science class.

The vast, vast majority of Americans aren't knuckle dragging anti-science people. The vast, vast majority of Americans recognize fable when they see it.

 

[SniperFire]

I look forward to seeing them start alchemy classes too.

Not a class in it, certainly, but a discussion on it is certainly appropriate.


In fact, they do that now.

Why are you scared shitless to let young minds ask questions?

 

[Si modo]

A victory for freedom of thought and individualism in the school, and a stinging defeat for the secular mind police. We enjoy freedom of speech, not freedom from speech you find disagreeable.



'NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A bill that encourages classroom debate over evolution will become law in Tennessee, despite a veto campaign mounted by scientists and civil libertarians who say it will reopen a decades-old controversy over teaching creationism to the state's schoolchildren.'

Tenn. governor allows evolution debate bill to become law

Imagine the lively debate and opening of minds which can now flourish in the previously flat-earther science rooms across Tenn, and hopefully the rest of America!

Debate is now allowed in school? Gawd forbid we allow DEBATE in education.

That might encourage critical thought, too.

Oh nooooooes!

No, better to keep censorship alive in education. Really.

 

[naturegirl]

Wasting time on a phony subject.

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

The vast, vast majority of Americans? Really? Teach creationism in philosophy class, not science class.

The vast, vast majority of Americans aren't knuckle dragging anti-science people. The vast, vast majority of Americans recognize fable when they see it.

So I understand you and SeaWytch are saying it's OK to teach creationism as long as it's not in science class.

 

[8537]

Hmmm, in High School there is a lot of time spent on Greek Mythology.............I think that needs to go. After all it's just fantasy.

Why would anyone object to allowing their children to understand the views of others. Why does creationism scare them so much?? If their children truly are to open their minds, perhaps they will look at it the same way we do Greek Mythology, perhaps they won't. No one is saying they have to believe in creationism, but it's a great debate topic about proven science vs theories.

The subject was called Greek Mythology was it not? Was it taught in a science class? Do you really believe that the creation myth should be taught in a science class?

And the THEORY of evolution is taught in science class. Is it proven science??? Does it belong in a science classroom??

Yes, evolution is proven science. The theory of gravity is proven science.

What makes them both theories is that the explanations for the exact scientific mechanisms that lead to both gravity and evolution are not fully understood. We're still trying, for example, to prove the existence of graviton.

But the lack of proof of a Graviton doesn't mean that things don't fall when you drop them.

 

[Nosmo King]

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

The vast, vast majority of Americans? Really? Teach creationism in philosophy class, not science class.

The vast, vast majority of Americans aren't knuckle dragging anti-science people. The vast, vast majority of Americans recognize fable when they see it.

So I understand you and SeaWytch are saying it's OK to teach creationism as long as it's not in science class.

Teach it in philosophy class. Creationism isn't science at all, it's fable. The fables of Aesop should also be taught in philosophy or literature classes, but not in a class teaching science.

 

[Si modo]

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

The vast, vast majority of Americans? Really? Teach creationism in philosophy class, not science class.

The vast, vast majority of Americans aren't knuckle dragging anti-science people. The vast, vast majority of Americans recognize fable when they see it.

So I understand you and SeaWytch are saying it's OK to teach creationism as long as it's not in science class.

That does seem like the proper place for it.

 

[SniperFire]

Wasting time on a phony subject.

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

The vast, vast majority of Americans?

Yes, moron. About 90% of people believe we are more than just curiously animated carbon particles, pointlessly glued together until our inevitable return to entropy.

The other 10%, of course, are the flat-earthers afraid to have school children ask questions.

 

[8537]

Liberals object to any ideas or concepts that are not preapproved liberal ideas and concepts.

Tell you what. You prove that creation happened like the Bible says it did. Should be a piece of cake, you being a Rethug right winger and all. You being the one that says science is a liberal ploy to undermine the youth of America.

If evolution need not be proved, creation need not be proved. Is mentioning that there is an alternative theory so harmful, so objectionable that no student should be exposed to such an idea? Surely, SURELY, if the science of evolution is so concrete and irrefutable it doesn't matter that there is exposure to creationism, any student of even below average intelligence can easily see that the theory of evolution is correct. What is the fear that libs have?

Let's try this on for size:

Scientists believe that gravity is caused by a particle called the Graviton. Every shred of evidence known to current science says the particle exists.

However, it's also possible that the theory of gravity is wrong and that what holds everything together - what attracts objects to each other - is a type of Italian pasta called Rigatoni. There's no evidence for Rigatoni, but it's an alternative "theory"

Do you want your kids learning about Rigatoni on an even playing field with the Graviton?

 

[Nosmo King]

That is your opinion. Not shared by the vast, vast majority of Americans.

The vast, vast majority of Americans?

Yes, moron. About 90% of people believe we are more than just curiously animated carbon particles, pointlessly glued together until our inevitable return to entropy.

The other 10%, of course, are the flat-earthers afraid to have school children ask questions.

90% of Americans believe in the Genesis fable rather than science? I'd like you to prove that.

 

[SniperFire]

The vast, vast majority of Americans?

Yes, moron. About 90% of people believe we are more than just curiously animated carbon particles, pointlessly glued together until our inevitable return to entropy.

The other 10%, of course, are the flat-earthers afraid to have school children ask questions.

90% of Americans believe in the Genesis fable rather than science?

I didn't make that claim. Are you a retard, or do you just suck at logic?

 

[Sallow]

The subject was called Greek Mythology was it not? Was it taught in a science class? Do you really believe that the creation myth should be taught in a science class?

And the THEORY of evolution is taught in science class. Is it proven science??? Does it belong in a science classroom??

Yes, evolution is proven science. The theory of gravity is proven science.

What makes them both theories is that the explanations for the exact scientific mechanisms that lead to both gravity and evolution are not fully understood. We're still trying, for example, to prove the existence of graviton.

But the lack of proof of a Graviton doesn't mean that things don't fall when you drop them.

I wonder when Churches are going to allow this sort of debate?