Debate: Constitutional Provision for Gun Ownership is Out of Date with Current Realities

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    The constitutional provision for private gun ownership has been made redundant by time as armaments have since progressed beyond the firearm. And a citizens army wielding small arms would have little chance of success against a tyrannical government armed with the some of the best weapons of war man has ever made. What do you think?
     
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    I don't think you know what you're talking about. Time and time again, people have held off armys.
     
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    ...but not armies.
     
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    I think you need to read a few history books.
     
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    I think that the founders could not have imagined offset printing, let alone the internet and social media. Therefore, your speech has been determined to be detrimental to the country and you may not say such things anymore.
     
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    At what point does the Second Amendment specify "small arms"?
     
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    No one wants really big nukes to be available, surely.
     
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    I think the likelihood of even an oppressive, fascist US government using nukes against rebellious citizens on their own soil is very remote, since they themselves and their own followers also live there. It would take a very stupid, suicidal person to go that route. So I don't really have a problem with the fact that ownership of the quite rare materials necessary for nukes is very restricted, particularly since the cost of those materials is prohibitively high, anyway.

    But leaving aside the "all or nothing" fallacy argument, it is a fact that the Founding generation had the technology of large weapons (cannons, for example) available and in use, and felt no necessity to limit the possession of such. You can argue whether or not they were correct in doing so, but you cannot honestly argue that they wrote the Second Amendment in ignorance of the issue.
     
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    It worked really well for Defrezze (SLA) and Koresh (branch davidians) and their followers - against a police dept. and a para military LE agency - didn't it.
     
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    Afghanistan against the Soviets
    The Vietcong against the United States.
     
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