Dean calls GOP the party of "white people"

[Orange_Juice]

Ya that sounds right. Thanks.

Watts left a long time ago. There are no black Republican members of the house or senate. They do not exist

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Watts left a long time ago. There are no black Republican members of the house or senate. They do not exist

Doesn't change the fact that while he was there the black dems kicked him out of the Black Caucus. Now does it.

 

[Zoomie1980]

You mean like representatives and Senators? I dont know about Senators but yes there are. Whats your point?

Of the two parties only the Republicans have over the last 30 years consistantly selected and placed blacks and other minorities in HIGH office in our Government. Not a toke here and there but systematic across the board in the most important up front positions of power.

And the result? The democrats and their lap dogs call the blacks "uncle toms" and print some of the most foul racist political cartoons in the past 60 years.

You are aware that When there was a Republican Congressman the Democratic blacks kicked him out of the Black caucas? In other words it was not really a black caucas at all but a democrat caucas with black people in it.

JC Watts of Oklahoma, former football star at OU was kicked out of the black caucus. Years ago accused Jesse Jackson and his ilk, "poverty pimps".

 

[morpheus]

Of the two parties only the Republicans have over the last 30 years consistantly selected and placed blacks and other minorities in HIGH office in our Government. Not a toke here and there but systematic across the board in the most important up front positions of power.

This is done for PR reasons, to create the image that the Republican Party is accomodating to everyone. The Bush administration isn't known for appointing competent people to high office. It seems that, what few minorites there are within the party, are given high office by the Bush adminsitration to shed unfavourable images of the party. It remains a reality that African-Americans and American Hispanics overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Two additional minorities: American Catholics and American Jews, have also traditionally voted Democrat (although they have been more evenly split in the Bush era). The Republican party effectively is -I wouldn't say a white party- but a WASP party. This shouldn't be perceived in a derogatory sense. American WASPs are -themselves- an ethnic group and demographic who tend to lean towards certain political views, just like any other demographic. There's ethnocultural demographics (WASPS, Afr-Americans, Hispanics, Catholics, etc), regional demographics (Texas, West Coast, Plains States, Western States, Great Lakes States, Northeast, Deep South, etc), economic demographics (working class, middle class, upper-middle, upper, etc), gender, age, educational attainment, and so on...

 

[Zoomie1980]

This is done for PR reasons, to create the image that the Republican Party is accomodating to everyone. The Bush administration isn't known for appointing competent people to high office. It seems that, what few minorites there are within the party, are given high office by the Bush adminsitration to shed unfavourable images of the party. It remains a reality that African-Americans and American Hispanics overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Two additional minorities: American Catholics and American Jews, have also traditionally voted Democrat (although they have been more evenly split in the Bush era). The Republican party effectively is -I wouldn't say a white party- but a WASP party. This shouldn't be perceived in a derogatory sense. American WASPs are -themselves- an ethnic group and demographic who tend to lean towards certain political views, just like any other demographic. There's ethnocultural demographics (WASPS, Afr-Americans, Hispanics, Catholics, etc), regional demographics (Texas, West Coast, Plains States, Western States, Great Lakes States, Northeast, Deep South, etc), economic demographics (working class, middle class, upper-middle, upper, etc), gender, age, educational attainment, and so on...

Bush carried 44% of the hispanic vote. No overwhelming numbers there. McCain will also do very well with Hispanic voters as he's friendly to immigrants.

Hispanics are a very socially CONSERVATIVE lot, overwhelmingly Catholic with very conservative family and social values. They are VERY much "pro-life" and very much AGAINST, as a culture, the secular-progressive values that are at the core of the modern Democratic party. They have been ardently anti-socialist and anti communist. The Democratic party is no friend of Hispanic American community values at all. Once this ethnic group become more economically entrenched they will move ever more towards more conservative political figures.

Blacks continue to be too stupid, as a group, to realize that Democrats have done absolutely nothing to improve their lot by selling them down the fetid river of government dependency.

 

[Chris]

Bush carried 44% of the hispanic vote. No overwhelming numbers there. McCain will also do very well with Hispanic voters as he's friendly to immigrants.

Hispanics are a very socially CONSERVATIVE lot, overwhelmingly Catholic with very conservative family and social values. They are VERY much "pro-life" and very much AGAINST, as a culture, the secular-progressive values that are at the core of the modern Democratic party. They have been ardently anti-socialist and anti communist. The Democratic party is no friend of Hispanic American community values at all. Once this ethnic group become more economically entrenched they will move ever more towards more conservative political figures.

Blacks continue to be too stupid, as a group, to realize that Democrats have done absolutely nothing to improve their lot by selling them down the fetid river of government dependency.

In a recent survey from the Pew Research Center, Obama was leading McCain among Hispanics, 66 percent to 23 percent.

Ouch!

 

[Inferno]

Republican diversity......

A picture speaks a thousand words. This says anything about the republican party to you. They look like clones that aged differently.

 

[Zoomie1980]

In a recent survey from the Pew Research Center, Obama was leading McCain among Hispanics, 66 percent to 23 percent.

Ouch!

In 2004, 2nd generation and older hispanics voted in a MAJORITY for Bush. Hispanics that trace their citizenship back three or more generations are predominantly REPUBLICAN.

AS I said as Hispanic people "mature" in the citizenry, they get more and more conservative and begin voting more in line with their social beliefs which are very religious, conservative and of individual responsibility, all things the modern Democratic party loathes.

 

[Chris]

In 2004, 2nd generation and older hispanics voted in a MAJORITY for Bush. Hispanics that trace their citizenship back three or more generations are predominantly REPUBLICAN.

AS I said as Hispanic people "mature" in the citizenry, they get more and more conservative and begin voting more in line with their social beliefs which are very religious, conservative and of individual responsibility, all things the modern Democratic party loathes.

This is not 2004.

 

[greenpartyaz]

Republican Party = Pasty, Old, Elitist, Christian, White Guys

 

[greenpartyaz]

Alan Keyes = Homophobic Kook!, Black guy that worked for Ronald Regan

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Let me see if I have the argument down right. Condi Rice and Colin Powell are incompetent and were just token figure heads. That about cover it?

 

[Moon]

Let me see if I have the argument down right. Condi Rice and Colin Powell are incompetent and were just token figure heads. That about cover it?

Yes, I believe that is the pathetic argument being made here.

 

[editec]

Are there any elected Black people in the government at the federal level?

Yes.

Congressional Black Congress - Member Info

Now, what percentage of them are Republicans?

 

[editec]

Let's do try to remember, shall we, that the Republican party used to be the progressives in America.

The fact is neither party is what it once was, and neither of them really stands for the noble ideals they like to pretend they do.

 

[Red Dawn]

"If you look at folks of color, even women, they're more successful in the Democratic party than they are in the white, uh, excuse me, in the [laughs] Republican party."

Sounds like a racist comment to me


When are you lefties going to call for the resignation of Dean for these egregious and off color remarks? Y'all have quite the circus going on over in the Big Tent. Much better than the GOP's.

The GOP is the party of angry white people.

There's not a single elected Black republican representative in the entire US Congress, house or senate.

When you watch the GOP convention this month, play close attention to who's in the audience. In a sea of 20,000 white faces, you won't see more than a tiny handful of black people.

 

[Red Dawn]

* African-Americans support Democrats by about an 8-1 ratio. All 42 African-American members of the House and Senate are Democrats.

* Both Buddhists and both Muslims in Congress are Democrats.

* Only three of the 43 Jewish members of the House and Senate are Republicans.

* Twenty-one of the twenty-five Latino members of Congress are Democrats.

* All eight of the Asian-American members of Congress are Democrats.






Open Left:: Wow, We Nominated The Black Guy

 

[morpheus]

Bush carried 44% of the hispanic vote. No overwhelming numbers there. McCain will also do very well with Hispanic voters as he's friendly to immigrants.

Hispanics are a very socially CONSERVATIVE lot, overwhelmingly Catholic with very conservative family and social values. They are VERY much "pro-life" and very much AGAINST, as a culture, the secular-progressive values that are at the core of the modern Democratic party. They have been ardently anti-socialist and anti communist. The Democratic party is no friend of Hispanic American community values at all. Once this ethnic group become more economically entrenched they will move ever more towards more conservative political figures.

Blacks continue to be too stupid, as a group, to realize that Democrats have done absolutely nothing to improve their lot by selling them down the fetid river of government dependency.

In 2004, 2nd generation and older hispanics voted in a MAJORITY for Bush. Hispanics that trace their citizenship back three or more generations are predominantly REPUBLICAN.

AS I said as Hispanic people "mature" in the citizenry, they get more and more conservative and begin voting more in line with their social beliefs which are very religious, conservative and of individual responsibility, all things the modern Democratic party loathes.

Hispanics and Catholics:

You are oversimplifying Hispanic voting patterns. As Kirk pointed out, Hispanic voting patterns in 2004 should be seen as an exception. George W Bush was a highly popular incumbent president that year, with over 60% of the American population having a favourable opinion of the president according to opinion polls, even if we take total election results into consideration (close to 50-50 for the general population). Thus 44% from any demographic is a very low number for an incumbent president with such high approval ratings. Let alone that his relative popularity among Hispanics could very well be a one-time occurence, and there is no guarantee it will be replicated in 2008, given Hispanic voting patterns over the past several elections. In fact, I can easily counter your analysis that Hispanic voters will gradually turn towards the right "when they mature" as a voting demographic. The 44% figure is derived from those Hispanics who actually voted, and not from the entire Hispanic population. Hispanics who do vote are already the "matured" segment of the Hispanic population; the "not yet mature" segment of the Hispanic population doesn't vote, especially immigrants that are either undocumented, or legal aliens (not eligible to vote), or citizens not registered to vote. The fact that Bush was able to get 44% only from matured Hispanics, and on a good year, hardly proves your case.

Being "ardently anti-socialist and anti communist" as you state, is a characteristic of the Cuban exile community, and not of the general Hispanic population. Cuban exiles fleeing Castro's dictatorship and currently living in the United States are outnumbered by immigrants and refugees fleeing Latin American countries ruled -at some point in the past few decades- by US-supported right-wing dictatorships or terrorized by US-armed right-wing paramilitaries, such as Guatemala, Nicaragua, and El Salvador to name a few. Additionally, American Hispanics, as well as Latin American immigrants, constitute a very large section of the American working class and unionized workers, hence such a demographic forms the base of support for left-of-centre economic politics. In fact, if the abortion, stem-cell research, and gay marriage smokescreens were taken out of the picture, more Americans would support the Democratic Party.

For Hispanics, these smokescreen issues take a back seat. American Hispanics more closely resemble European Christians (both Catholics and non-Catholics) than American WASP Christians. Like European Christians, American Hispanics tend to be very secular and mere nominal Christians, for whom Christianity (whether Catholicism, Lutheranism, Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, or Calivinsim) plays far more of a cultural/traditional role, than a spiritual one. That is, you get married and baptized in a church, and observe Christian holidays, but you don't refrain from premarital sex and other Christian taboos. In fact, contrary to a common American misunderstanding, Catholic lay people are socially liberal (and don't adhere to all of their curch's teachings), far more liberal than American Evangelicals. In fact, abortion is perfectly legal and available upon request in Catholic Italy, France, Belgium, and Austria. And of the 3 European countries where same-sex marriage is now legal, two of them (Spain and Belgium) are Catholic (the third country is the Netherlands where most of the population is nominally Calivinist [Dutch Reformed] with a significant Catholic population).

I highly suggest that you make some Hispanic friends, and stop relying on stereotypes to make a political argument.

 

[William Joyce]

Hispanics are a very socially CONSERVATIVE lot, overwhelmingly Catholic with very conservative family and social values. They are VERY much "pro-life" and very much AGAINST, as a culture, the secular-progressive values that are at the core of the modern Democratic party.

That's funny.

They sure don't SHOW family values:

The Myth of Hispanic Family Values

Hispanic Family Values? by Heather Mac Donald, City Journal Autumn 2006

HISPANIC FAMILY VALUES? DEPENDS ON WHAT THE MEANING OF "FAMILY" IS. The Immigration Blog

Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy. (In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down. Given what psychologists and sociologists now know about the much higher likelihood of social pathology among those who grow up in single-mother households, the Hispanic baby boom is certain to produce more juvenile delinquents, more school failure, more welfare use, and more teen pregnancy in the future.

The government social-services sector has already latched onto this new client base; as the Hispanic population expands, so will the demands for a larger welfare state. Since conservative open-borders advocates have yet to acknowledge the facts of Hispanic family breakdown, there is no way to know what their solution to it is. But they had better come up with one quickly, because the problem is here—and growing.

The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. The Hispanic birthrate is twice as high as that of the rest of the American population. That high fertility rate—even more than unbounded levels of immigration—will fuel the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades. By 2050, the Latino population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. One in four Americans will be Hispanic by mid-century, twice the current ratio. In states such as California and Texas, Hispanics will be in the clear majority. Nationally, whites will drop from near 70 percent of the total population in 2000 to just half by 2050. Hispanics will account for 46 percent of the nation’s added population over the next two decades, the Pew Hispanic Center reports.

 

[AllieBaba]

The Republicans are the party of white people.

Always have been.

Except when they were fighting to bring about the end of slavery, and when the abolition movement got going, moron. Except when they attempted to nominate Colin Powell as a presidential candidate, idiot. Except when they placed Clarence Thomas on the supreme court, you bigoted fool.