Current status of the U.S. Senate......

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    Trump cult members are in a bit of a jam.

    There are FIVE republican senators who have awakened to the real fact that Trump is.......as his own Sec. of State, aptly labeled him, a "fucking moron."

    Without such republican senators as McCain, Collins, Corker, Heller, Murkowski and ....as of today....Flake...... the current count of "yea votes" for whatever Trump was hoping for to legislate, is down to 46 (maybe).

    Now, it does not mean that the above 6 are now "liberal democrats,"but what it does mean (as predicted) smarter republicans realize that the "Trump Cult Party" has no room for smart, objective and patriotic republicans.

    Partially "thanks" to that fat idiot, Steve Bannon, decent republicans are bailing out from the mindless loyalty oath to a moron-in-chief.
     
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    You can thank Bannon for Trump. Apparently he is not an idiot, or that makes progressives the whale shit of intelligence. He is considerably smarter than Democrats, but we know that already.
     
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    Sure, as soon as bannon finally takes a shower......LOL
     
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    Unfortunately, far too many Republicans are cowards who adhere blindly to the 11th Commandment, and continue to place party before country – a party that is consistently wrong on the issues.
     
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    Fortunately, my friend, SOME smarter republicans are waking up. Hope the trend continues.
     
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    Truly, I don't think objectivity, patriotism and/or intellect are the "boxes" one must tick to be a "card carrying" member of the "Trump Cult Party." All one need be to belong there is bereft of integrity.
     
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    No. You are mistaking conformity to the establishment as cowardice, they are doing what they are told. They are scared shitless.
     
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    You can talk about integrity when the only other choice was Clinton. What do you smoke, it must be real good?
     
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    "Decent" Republican = Democrat
     
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    Well, that's where you're mistaken. I can talk about integrity because it, and copious shares of it, is the thing I find most important for a public official to be imbued with. Accordingly, I don't have to think about the person's politics when they lack integrity of the most basic sort, which, quite frankly, alone is not enough integrity.

    What are some manifestations of the most basic sort of integrity? Well, truthfully declaring one's own name. Admitting that one did indeed say what one did in fact say. Refraining from attesting to have done things that one has not done.

    The fact of the matter is that nothing another individual does or doesn't do/say, think or doesn't' think, believes or doesn't believe, etc. has any bearing on the nature and extent of one's own integrity and manifestation thereof. Thus, nothing having to do with with Mrs. Clinton -- not her politics, not her gender, not what she says, etc., none of it -- has any bearing on whether Donald Trump is a man of high integrity and whether he acts accordingly.

    When you and others stop trying to evaluate people through the comparative lens of tu quoque reasoning, you'll perhaps instead develop a clear and soundly develop set of principles pertaining to the single most important thing a person has -- the quality of their character -- cleave unwaveringly to them, and in turn measure people, on their own merits (words and deeds) against those principles, not against one another.

    You and everyone else had, besides Trump, at least two other individuals for whom you could vote in the 2016 presidential election. Voting for any of those individuals may not have produced a Republican POTUS, but it would have ensured that the most unrepentantly turpitudinous candidate did not ascend to the presidency. From where I sit, the character of the individual who holds the office of the POTUS, is more important than any political affiliation they espouse or reject, more important than any policy they advance or oppose.

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    You see, until the 2016 election, in past 70 years, we haven't been presented with a candidate whom, while he was running for president, it was patently clear they are bereft of damn near every aspect of good character, to say nothing of utterly devoid of integrity. The 2016 election was singular in that regard and the American people, or at least enough of them, "blew it" as goes choosing to follow so-called "higher angels." As one conservative economist noted, "Character is the key....Little of value is possible without it."



    (Above is the "Cliff Notes" exposition of how important character is. The full version is in the video below.)


    For all the discrete ills of the Roman Empire, the underlying cause of all of them, thus Western Rome's fall, was Roman society's and its leaders in particular, lack of character.
     
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