Culture

[Unkotare]

It's true that culture can have a significant influence on educational success. It can have a lot to do with learning styles, expectations, family support, and attitudes toward education itself.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why hasn't the Black culture blossomed anywhere?

Does a Black in Jamaica, or the USA, somehow have more in common culturally with Africa, or with a sort of Western culture?

 

[Disir]

Yes. Time orientation, too.

 

[Unkotare]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

 

[Disir]

Is it?

 

[Unkotare]

Is it?

Some would have it so.

 

[task0778]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

Agreed. Why is it that asian children go to the same schools as black children or white children and out perform them in the classroom? Might be too simplistic to lay it all on different cultures, but dang, this is our kids we're talking about. We ought to be able to put aside politics for that if nothing else and do what's best for their futures.

 

[Unkotare]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

Agreed. Why is it that asian children go to the same schools as black children or white children and out perform them in the classroom? Might be too simplistic to lay it all on different cultures, but dang, this is our kids we're talking about. We ought to be able to put aside politics for that if nothing else and do what's best for their futures.

Put aside politics and then do what?

 

[ricechickie]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

Making a good faith effort to understand a student is probably the single most important thing a teacher can do. A student who feels understood performs better. A student who feels constantly judged, critcized, or alienated will not do as well. The younger the child, the truer this is.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

Do Blacks in the USA, and Blacks in the UK have more in common with their host culture, or with some kind of Black culture?

Because the riots, gangs, and low test scores of Blacks in each respectable country are in tandem.

Even though, it would definitely seem that they each have more in common with their host cultures, than with each other.

But, surely it can't be genetics at play.

 

[task0778]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

Agreed. Why is it that asian children go to the same schools as black children or white children and out perform them in the classroom? Might be too simplistic to lay it all on different cultures, but dang, this is our kids we're talking about. We ought to be able to put aside politics for that if nothing else and do what's best for their futures.

Put aside politics and then do what?

Find ways to improve our educational systems. It's obvious the things we've tried over the past 30-40 years have not worked well, so let's go with some other ideas. Why is it those asian kids are doing so well, what can the rest of us do? What are other countries doing that we should adopt, in part or in total.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The fact that China has higher IQ, and PISA scores than White countries, despite their rather modest incomes, couldn't have something to do with their larger brains, more brachycephalic brains, and higher amounts of genes for educational attainment?

Intelligence generally favors those with larger brains, more brachycephalic brains, and these genes for educational attainment.

But, it must be some coincidence that Chinese are often a smart people.

 

[Unkotare]

Endemic poverty has a predictably enervating effect on individuals, organizations, and systems.

 

[Disir]

Is it?

Some would have it so.

Tough day?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Endemic poverty has a predictably enervating effect on individuals, organizations, and systems.

What evidence do you have that African Americans are in worse poverty than those in China?

China's income level is quite lower than that of African Americans.

But, the IQ scores of China are much higher, and the murder rates of China are much lower.

 

[Unkotare]

And while understanding the cultural background a student is coming from (in their shoes, as it were) can have a positive effect on both teaching and learning, culture ought not be used as an excuse for inappropriate behavior or personal shortcomings.

Agreed. Why is it that asian children go to the same schools as black children or white children and out perform them in the classroom? Might be too simplistic to lay it all on different cultures, but dang, this is our kids we're talking about. We ought to be able to put aside politics for that if nothing else and do what's best for their futures.

Put aside politics and then do what?

Find ways to improve our educational systems. ....

Such as?

 

[Unkotare]

Endemic poverty has a predictably enervating effect on individuals, organizations, and systems.

What evidence do you have that African Americans are in worse poverty than those in China?...

Straw man. I never made such a claim.

 

[Unkotare]

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China's income level is quite lower than that of African Americans......

Who in China's income? Which African Americans?

 

[task0778]

Endemic poverty has a predictably enervating effect on individuals, organizations, and systems.

Poverty is not endemic to any specific culture is it? Are there not many examples of people who arose out of poverty to achieve some modicum of success? How'd they do it? What made a difference in their case?

 

[Unkotare]

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But, the IQ scores of China are much higher......

Scores of who in China?