Crime is down, though Fox News viewers might not be aware

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it’s amazing how when you stop counting activities as crimes you can lower the crime statistics

quote:

This is not the narrative that has dominated on the right, particularly on Fox News. Since crime began to surge during the pandemic, cable-news coverage of crime increased.

But on Fox News in particular, coverage was consistently higher during the Biden administration relative to the first three years of Donald Trump’s presidency.

The peak came in October 2022 — as the channel tried, successfully, to ensure that the rise in crime that had already begun to wane was a central discussion point for the midterm elections. That month, Fox News was three times as likely to mention crime in any 15-second block of airtime as was CNN.

But where are they on this? The newest facts on crime?

 

[Rambunctious]

Biden came into office and no mare ANTIFA riots all over America.

Denial is not healthy.

The ANTIFA riots were far left Biden supporters and they started up rioting because they lost an election to Trump...

 

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Obviously, the propaganda spewed by WaPo is disputed by the FBI....

See:

Is crime going up in America? Some types are, new FBI data shows

A massive data dump of 11 million criminal offenses reported to the FBI paints a complicated picture of crime in the United States. The data, released Monday, shows that while violent crime dropped…

thehill.com

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Crime Trends in U.S. Cities: Mid-Year 2023 Update - Council on Criminal Justice

Crime Trends in U.S. Cities: Mid-Year 2023 Update July 2023 Ernesto Lopez Research Specialist, Council on Criminal Justice Richard Rosenfeld Chair, Council on Criminal Justice Crime Trends Working Group Curators’ Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Criminology and Criminal Justice, University of...

counciloncj.org

You poor old links: 10/16/23 - July 2023
-- info before all the data is in?

Crime is down, though Fox News viewers might not be aware

WAPO quotes:

It’s important to recognize the limits on this data. For one thing, data on crime is notoriously slow. The FBI didn’t release summary data on 2022 until October. This quarter-to-quarter comparison, by contrast, is relatively expedient — but it is still only a look at one quarter of the year. It is also still several months old and limited to jurisdictions that returned information.

If we look at the 10 largest cities, for example, we see that Los Angeles and Chicago are missing. In five of the eight that returned data, property crime was up. Only in Dallas, though, had murder climbed relative to the third quarter of 2022.

Crime declined in the third quarter of 2023 relative to the same period in 2022, according to data released by the FBI last week.

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

Crime declined in the third quarter of 2023 relative to the same period in 2022, according to data released by the FBI last week. Violent crime was down 8 percent in jurisdictions that reported data — law enforcement agencies covering three-quarters of U.S. residents. Property crime was down 6 percent. Murder was down more than 15 percent.

Fox News, for one, doesn’t want to hear it.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

A lot of crimes aren't being reported to the police nowadays, and arrests aren't being made.

That gives the appearance that crime is going down.

 

[JGalt]

Dance. Dance. Dance around any good news that makes Biden look good. We'll happily provide the music.

You couldn't dress Biden up in a short skirt and lipstick and make him look good, bro. Too many folks are wising up.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Crime declined in the third quarter of 2023 relative to the same period in 2022, according to data released by the FBI last week.

What's it like compared to pre 2020?

 

[whitehall]

Crime isn't down. The spin is in comparing statistics from only two quarter year periods. Overall crime continues to escalate while democrats call for defunding the police. Anyway the government is one big spin machine these days and you can't trust data from the FBI or the Biden administration.

 

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What's it like compared to pre 2020?

The rate of decline after a few terrible years is the news. Biden has been in since 2021, not 2020. The article mentions first three years of Trump's presidency and first three years of Biden presidency. Every president walks into things they had no power of -- inheritance. What did Trump walk into? What did Biden walk into?

May as well use stats from 1970, 1980, 2000.


and here is a link to the FBI stats thingie: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Crime isn't down. The spin is in comparing statistics from only two quarter year periods. Overall crime continues to escalate while democrats call for defunding the police. Anyway the government is one big spin machine these days and you can't trust data from the FBI or the Biden administration.

The projection from the right is amusing. Just because FOX is a GOP Network, doesn't make others Dem Networks.

We ll know you have been laughed at by your info-brainwshers over at FOX. They're paying out billions for being caught lying and shilling fro Trump.

Then we had FOX Lawyers winning in a court on another issue a few years back -- Tucker Carlson can't be seriously believed.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

quote:

This is not the narrative that has dominated on the right, particularly on Fox News. Since crime began to surge during the pandemic, cable-news coverage of crime increased.

But on Fox News in particular, coverage was consistently higher during the Biden administration relative to the first three years of Donald Trump’s presidency.

The peak came in October 2022 — as the channel tried, successfully, to ensure that the rise in crime that had already begun to wane was a central discussion point for the midterm elections. That month, Fox News was three times as likely to mention crime in any 15-second block of airtime as was CNN.

But where are they on this? The newest facts on crime?

CNN not reporting crime a shocker

 

[Concerned American]

Biden came into office and no mare ANTIFA riots all over America.

Denial is not healthy.

LMAO, Biden and the globalist democrats didn't need them anymore and sent them home. Stupid is as stupid does, eh Dainty?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

it’s amazing how when you stop counting activities as crimes you can lower the crime statistics

Theoretically the crime rate can be zero simply by recognizing a permanent Purge.

 

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Availability of NIBRS Data

2020 NIBRS data and companion documents are available exclusively on the Documents and Downloads page of the FBI’s Crime Data Explorer (CDE). The downloadable files also provide details such as location, time of day, and clearances at the incident level.

Users can also access other types of data on the CDE. Previous editions of the NIBRS publication contain data from 2011 through 2019.

https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-and-information/ucr/publications

UCR Publications​

The UCR Program consists of four data collections: The National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS), the Summary Reporting System (SRS), the Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted (LEOKA) Program, and the Hate Crime Statistics Program. The UCR Program publishes annual reports for each of these data collections and a preliminary semiannual report of summary data each winter, as well as special compilations on cargo theft, human trafficking, and NIBRS topical studies.
The FBI's interactive Crime Data Explorer tool serves as the digital front door for UCR data, enabling law enforcement and the general public to more easily use and understand the massive amounts of UCR data currently collected.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The ANTIFA riots were far left Biden supporters...

Your Honor, we rest our case. We request Mental Health commitment rather than prison time.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Theoretically the crime rate can be zero simply by recognizing a permanent Purge.

For example, in Atlanta, from 2020 to 2021, the number of murders went up by 3%, according to the Atlanta Police Department. But if we extend the comparison to 2019, before the pandemic, murders are up by 65%. Yet compared to 1990, murders in Atlanta are down by 32%, despite steady population growth. The city’s murder total in 2021 was also roughly the same as the annual tallies in the early 2000s.

Most Americans Say Crime is Up. What Does the Data Say?

More people than ever believe crime is up in their area, polls show. But public perception doesn’t always match reality.

www.themarshallproject.org

Public perception doesn’t line up well with reality, and hasn’t for quite some time.

It’s generally true in the media that bad things (like crime) are deemed more newsworthy than the lack of bad things. So if crime goes up in some places, remains flat in some and goes down in others, the increase is likely to get more news coverage. And when those increases get reported by national outlets, it can help create a broad impression that crime is up everywhere.

Jonathan Simon, a criminal justice law professor at the University of California, Berkeley, School of Law, told us, “the higher up you go from the city and county level…the more crime becomes a demon, an abstraction that is much easier to sort of create a moral panic around.”

Interestingly, when pollsters ask people if crime is getting better or worse in their area, the party in control of the White House seems to matter a great deal. Democrats were more likely than Republicans to believe crime was getting worse throughout the Bush and Trump presidencies, while the numbers flip-flopped during the Obama and Biden years.

 

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LMAO, Biden and the globalist democrats didn't need them anymore and sent them home. Stupid is as stupid does, eh Dainty?

2016: Crime up?

WASHINGTON In presenting himself as the "law and order" candidate for president, Donald Trump portrays a nation of lawlessness and disorder.

That grim picture may speak to the visceral fears of voters of a country "out of control," as Trump put it. It does not, though, reflect a trend of declining crime that has been unfolding over 25 years.

Crime figures are a malleable source of information. Depending on what time period is compared, and which crimes are considered, they can be used to tell a tale of progress or setbacks. Here's a look at some of Trump's recent statements, President Barack Obama's very different assertions and how they compare with the facts:

TRUMP: "Crime is out of control, and rapidly getting worse. Look what is going on in Chicago and our inner cities. Not good!" - Tweet.

TRUMP: "Violent crime has increased in cities across America." - Speech on Monday.

THE FACTS: Violent crime has dropped dramatically since the early 1990s.
According to FBI data, the national violent crime rate last peaked in 1991 at 758 reported violent crimes per 100,000 people. In 2014, the latest year for which full data is available, the rate was 366 per 100,000 people.
Even so, Trump has some statistical support for claiming violent crime is up in big-city America.
The Major Cities Chiefs Association, a nonprofit that works with urban police chiefs, finds that violent crime reported by some urban police departments rose from 2014 to 2015, and homicides alone were up in 44 of the big-city and county police departments, by this count.
One year's results, though, cannot be taken to mean that the overall trend of declining violent crime is changing.

If you accept facts here that make Obama or Trump look good, one must accept all the facts here.


There have been other upticks in violent crime in the past 15 years, even as rates have fallen over the longer period. In both 2005 and 2006, the number of violent crimes reported to the FBI increased 2.3 percent and 3.2 percent respectively. That was followed by five years of declines.

"It is a mistake to say crime is out of control and rapidly getting worse," Darrel Stephens, executive director of the Major Cities Chiefs Association, told AP. "We do have increases in many cities and it should be of concern to people, but the rate is well below the early '90s when it was at its peak."

Said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum: "I would not say that crime is out of control everywhere or anywhere for that matter, in comparison to where we were 25 years ago."

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OBAMA: "It is important to keep in perspective that in places like New York, or Los Angeles, or Dallas, you've seen huge drops in the murder rates." - News conference, Saturday.

THE FACTS: He's right about New York but Los Angeles and Dallas saw increases in homicides from 2014 and to 2015, and in the first three months of this year compared with the same period last year, according to the Major Cities Chiefs data. Over time, however, murder rates have fallen drastically in both cities over the past 25 years, FBI data show. Violent crime in those cities also has been on the decline since the early '90s, much like the rest of the country.

Obama did not specify the time period behind his claim.

The FBI's annual Uniform Crime Report, the main source of data on crime, isn't a perfect measure because police departments voluntarily report their numbers and some departments may classify crimes differently. But the decline seen in the FBI's numbers has been mirrored in another nationwide crime measure, the National Crime Victimization Survey published by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics.
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TRUMP: "According to the Chicago Tribune, there has already been more than 2,000 - 2,000 - shooting victims in Chicago alone this year. This epidemic of violence destroys lives, destroys communities and destroys opportunity for young Americans."

OBAMA: "I'm not just talking about mass shootings. I'm talking about the hundreds of people who have already been shot this year in my hometown of Chicago - the ones that we just consider routine."

THE FACTS: Trump accurately cited the newspaper's finding that more than 2,100 people have been shot in Chicago this year. Obama appeared to confuse the number of people shot with the number of people who died from shootings - more than 240.

But with Chicago homicides starkly rising, Trump and Obama were on solid ground in pointing to the reality that it has been a bloody year in that city.

First published on July 13, 2016 / 2:46 PM EDT

© 2016 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

More from CBS News​

Fact check: Obama and Trump on crime in America

How do Trump's and Obama's pronouncements about violent crime stack up against FBI and city crime data?

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

A lot of crimes aren't being reported to the police nowadays, and arrests aren't being made.

That gives the appearance that crime is going down.

Overall, the data shows violent and property crime remained consistent between 2020 and 2021.

While the aggregate estimated violent crime volume for the nation decreased 1% (from 1,326,600 in 2020 to 1,313,200 in 2021), the estimated number of murders increased 4.3% (from 22,000 in 2020 to 22,900 in 2021).

The robbery rate decreased 8.9% from 2020 to 2021, which heavily contributed to the decrease in overall violent crime despite increases in murder and rape rates at the national level.

 

[Quasar44]

violent crime is skyrocketing!!!

FBI has zero credibility and can F die

 

[Crepitus]

A lot of crimes aren't being reported to the police nowadays, and arrests aren't being made.

That gives the appearance that crime is going down.

That's a pretty desperate bit of excuse making right there.

 

[Crepitus]

Great Headline. Good news gets hidden? Is it election interference in the way people like to claim the laptop story is?

Crime is down, though Fox News viewers might not be aware​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/18/crime-fbi-fox-news/

Crime declined in the third quarter of 2023 relative to the same period in 2022, according to data released by the FBI last week. Violent crime was down 8 percent in jurisdictions that reported data — law enforcement agencies covering three-quarters of U.S. residents. Property crime was down 6 percent. Murder was down more than 15 percent.

Fox News, for one, doesn’t want to hear it.

Analysis | Crime is down, though Fox News viewers might not be aware

New FBI data shows how common rhetoric is incorrect — and how the right-wing channel spins good news.

web.archive.org

Are there valid and credible reasons FOX would ignore this, since we know they do like to focus on crime?

Wow dude, You really triggered them this time!

Look at all the desperate denials and conspiracy crap!

Well done!