It makes my head hurt.Our units of time are totally arbitrary, as are our measurements of distance or anything else.
But, it doesn't mean the things we measure with them don't exist.
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It makes my head hurt.Our units of time are totally arbitrary, as are our measurements of distance or anything else.
But, it doesn't mean the things we measure with them don't exist.
Where did THEY come from?* * * *
And then there is the super alien theory in which a race of super aliens, collective know as God run around the cosmos creating universes. I think my super alien idea is just as likely as anything else we have discussed.
The Super Aliens move back and forth in time and space thus we see them as eternal. However, I suppose they could be creations of another super race but I'll have to give that some thought after another Martini.Where did THEY come from?
Meh. It all just begs the question: where did they/it come from?The Super Aliens move back and forth in time and space thus we see them as eternal. However, I suppose they could be creations of another super race but I'll have to give that some thought after another Martini.
You can believe anything you want, but you seem to enjoy believing in lies.
I'm no geologist, but do understand uniformitarianism vs. catastrophism and the errors in radiometric dating.
If there is no religious prefix to science, then stop believing in atheist science such as evolution. Atheism is a religion. At least, I am smart enough to realize our religion influences our science. The facts are that science backs up the Bible even though it isn't a science book. Also, nothing backs up evolution nor atheism. It's just a fake religious belief.
Here's evidence that debunks evolution. Prehistoric cave art of humans and dinosaurs living together.
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Time is considered a coordinate in the universe. According to the prevailing cosmological model of the Big Bang theory, time itself began as part of the entire Universe about 13.8 billion years ago. I suppose that means my alarm clock would not work before the big bang but that's ok, since it wouldn't be needed.The Universe
Talk about "The Universe" is ambiguous. At the most cursory level it can be presumed that one is referring to either the "known" universe or the entire business, whatever that may be. Lots left to discover and discuss within the confines of the former while all the gesticulation and pontification about what lies beyond the scientifically "known" part clearly amounts to just that. However, we can at least apply some logic to rule some in and some out. Can't we? Fun stuff.
For instance, under "Universe" Wikipedia immediately states the following:
"The universe (Latin: universus) is all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy."
Okay, so now I'm literally being told that not only space, but also time.. is a form of matter and energy, apparently containing at least planets, stars, and galaxies among other things. <-- Time, that is.. Really? I mean, it's a really long section.. We just got the thing rolling, fellas.. And you've already done gone and steered it hopelessly far from any logical lanes.. Jesus! I call interference!
You began this thread with the question But where did the initial super tiny blob of whatever it was come from?Meh. It all just begs the question: where did they/it come from?
To break that infinite regression, we imagine some beginning. It begins by something that defies what we imagine we “know:”
Something Or Someone got itself all “created” prior to itsellf.
but … still. Kudos on that drink idea.
I think your answer is honest. I also assume that you are correct that nobody really knows. At least not yet.You began this thread with the question But where did the initial super tiny blob of whatever it was come from?
I don't remember anybody giving a real answer so I will. I don't know. Further no one else does either.
The new James Webb Space Telescope which I believe should be in operational this summer should give us some answers to questions about creation of the universe. The data it collects will allow earthbound scientists to better understand the formation of stars and galaxies just after the big bang. As a NASA engineer said, “When the lights turned on in the universe, that’s what Webb is trying to see,”. Seeing the very beginning of the Universe should give us insight into creation.I think your answer is honest. I also assume that you are correct that nobody really knows. At least not yet.
Sure, you believe in lies if you're atheist or believe in evolution. I had the wrong cave, but it and other prehistoric cave paintings and art work around the world shows dinosaurs and humans lived together.Oh really now?
Any comment on this lie then?
Which as I pointed out before, is not in Kuwait, but in the Chauvet cave in France.
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But the rest of us believe "lies".
And so does the old movie One Million B.C. so it must be trueSure, you believe in lies if you're atheist or believe in evolution. I had the wrong cave, but it and other prehistoric cave paintings and art work around the world shows dinosaurs and humans lived together.
Sure, you believe in lies if you're atheist or believe in evolution. I had the wrong cave, but it and other prehistoric cave paintings and art work around the world shows dinosaurs and humans lived together.
I consider it our primary coordinate or measure of space. Again, all is silliness when talking about "the universe" without specificity. The James Webb telescope will undoubtedly tell us more about the Big Bang, but it likely won't inform us any better about the vastness that may have existed at a distance prior and that which may still exist far beyond our powers of observation. It's always simply presumed that we must be at the center of the action, but there's no actual reason to believe other Big Bangs haven't gone on before and haven't been going on elsewhere since ours. Multiple "initial blobs." We don't know. Can't tell.Time is considered a coordinate in the universe.
Bingo.I don't know. Further no one else does either.
Generally, art reflects reality.And so does the old movie One Million B.C. so it must be true
This is more important as the evidence adds to that which would destroy evolution. What it shows is that Neanderthals or so-called "prehistoric" humans were advanced in art. That doesn't follow the evolution theory of Neanderthals.Uh-huh. Well, let me know when you find the right cave then.
But really, "it and other prehistoric cave paintings", even though I already proved beyond a doubt it was a lie?
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It is ever existing, whatever was the reason for the big bang. It was before the Bang and it's present even now after billions of years. Matter came into existence after the Bang, but the real question is what forces are behind the creation of all the visible universe. That force was present before the Bang and is still present. The science can never find a way to explain all this. Because that force or energy is beyond the comprehension of our intellect. Science can only talk about what might have happened after the Big Bang but science cannot go beyond.Science posits some things we now take for granted. For example, nothing can exist prior to itself.
matter/energy/space/time exist. Where did all this “stuff” come from? Fair question. Tracing it back with observation and science (particularly physics) we seemingly trace it back to the “Big Bang.” But where did the initial super tiny blob of whatever it was come from?
Our reliance on the rules and laws of science breaks down at that point. We call it by another set of names. We call it “quantum” physics and make reference to how the normal scientific laws are suspended at such a point. Basically, we speak of something that is literally outside the bounds of science. It is LITERALLY super-natural. (Not in the sense of the “divine” or “magic” necessarily; just in the sense of requiring explanation that is above and beyond our understanding of scientific “laws”.).
The geniuses who work in the fields of quantum physics and theoretical physics may be able — in a fashion — to explain how absolute nothing led to the infinitesimal “thing” that went “bang” thereby crating all matter/energy and space itself as well as time. But cannot explain the “why” of it all?
What, exactly, perturbed an absolutely empty void where no energy and no matter existed in no space and outside the parameters of time in order to set the Big Bang and all of creation in the cosmos into motion? Why would absolutely nothing lead to something?
(I placed this post in the science section; but I think it might be logically and fairly placed in a religion section, too.)
AnkitDS BreezeWoodScience posits some things we now take for granted. For example, nothing can exist prior to itself.
matter/energy/space/time exist. Where did all this “stuff” come from? Fair question. Tracing it back with observation and science (particularly physics) we seemingly trace it back to the “Big Bang.” But where did the initial super tiny blob of whatever it was come from?
Our reliance on the rules and laws of science breaks down at that point. We call it by another set of names. We call it “quantum” physics and make reference to how the normal scientific laws are suspended at such a point. Basically, we speak of something that is literally outside the bounds of science. It is LITERALLY super-natural. (Not in the sense of the “divine” or “magic” necessarily; just in the sense of requiring explanation that is above and beyond our understanding of scientific “laws”.).
The geniuses who work in the fields of quantum physics and theoretical physics may be able — in a fashion — to explain how absolute nothing led to the infinitesimal “thing” that went “bang” thereby crating all matter/energy and space itself as well as time. But cannot explain the “why” of it all?
What, exactly, perturbed an absolutely empty void where no energy and no matter existed in no space and outside the parameters of time in order to set the Big Bang and all of creation in the cosmos into motion? Why would absolutely nothing lead to something?
(I placed this post in the science section; but I think it might be logically and fairly placed in a religion section, too.)