Court: State must prove Oregon drug dog reliability

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    Bravo

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    I just can't wait to read the procedure on how to calibrate a dog.
     
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    How ridiculous. Dog finds drugs, there you go, that's his 'certification' for ya.
     
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    Oregon is Liberal lala land. Surprised they even found one acceptable.

    These douche bags outlawed Nuclear power in their State and spent YEARS buying power from Washington Nuclear power plants.
     
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    Absolutely. And cops make arrests - so why have trials? There you go.
     
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    seems reasonable to me. does anyone think a dog should be able to infringe on your rights just because someone says it's properly trained?

    i don't.
     
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    if they had a warrant i'd agree
     
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    But in the first case, the dog found the drugs. So how is the dog incompetent? If they had searched, based on the dog's alerting, found no drugs but, instead, found a murder weapon, then I could see questioning the validity of the search. But the dog found the drugs here. (Not clear whether the dog found the drugs or not in the second case.)

    Hmmmmm . . . .
     
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    How many times has that drug alerted and triggered a search, and no drugs were found? If the dog alerts every single time they point it at someone's car it will eventually be right.

    If you ever have a drug case involving a dog you should ask questions like that in discovery. Most dogs are, at best, about 50% accurate in the field. Even the best dogs sometimes alert if their handlers expect to find something, even when there is nothing there.


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    Tell me something. If the following incident had occurred anywhere but at a school would any of the searches been legal?

    Searches by dogs yield no drugs at Janesville middle schools -- GazetteXtra
     
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    Kind of hard to convince a judge that a successful search should be set aside on the basis that, even though the dog alerted properly in this case, he may not be a reliable dog in general, so the results of the search should be suppressed.

    I guess it might be analagous to a cop who goes around barging into houses witn no PC whatseover - just because he hits every now and then does not make his entry with no PC valid, in spite of the fact that he hit something on this one occasion.
     

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