Cost of Illegal Immigration, By State

Well, I guess that we should get rid of the riff-raff;

"As a DACA* student, Maria had to overcome insurmountable odds to pursue her education. A graduate from the Master's of Fine Arts Program at Yale University, she now teaches at the prestigious Pratt Institute in New York. Maria also plans to pursue a doctorate. Read her amazing story at http://www.myamericandreams.org/maria...

Wow! Cool!

Let's deport all the illegal aliens who didn't graduate from Yale.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.
 
There are two sides to every accounting ledger. Can you cite the figures for the credit side of the ledger on the issue of undocumented workers?

Well, they do pay a bit in sales taxes.

They also produce more work for less money - and employers are spared the expenses of health insurance and unemployment taxes.

Then, when the undocumented goes to the hospital for routine health care, they are charged more as a cash customer than the guy with insurance (whose insurance company negotiates charges.)

The biggest net gain I see is that if you pay a Mexican crew $10,000 for a home improvement job and save half, not only is your house going to be worth more (so your assets are much higher for each dollar spent), but the banks can loan out FOUR TIMES the amount on their books. So, your remodel job generated $40,000 worth of money to be loaned out and you only spent $10,000. Had you let an over-priced, USDA approved, background checked, insured, licensed, bonded, American do the job, it would have cost you twice as much, generated only half what the Mexican crew did to be loaned out by the bank... and worse... worse... all that capital that could have been generated by the Mexican crew is wasted on the American who takes his money, runs to the stores and blows it on crap made in China, Mexico, Japan, Korea, and Viet Nam.

And there is more...
Slave Labour.

Americans are creating the "Slave Labour." Let's face it. The average American sits on their ass playing on the computer. They feed their bodies with junk food, booze, drugs (both legal and illegal), screw up their bodies with multiple body piercings and tattoos and a lot of them post 20, 30, 40, 50 THOUSAND or more posts on discussion boards (not to mention other social media.)

They are out of shape, can't show up for work, many don't even bother looking (it interferes with their social media interests.) Those people are not entrepreneurial; Hell they think an employer owes them a job simply because they were born on U.S. soil.

Taxpayers pay for every person in the United States to go to school and get a high school diploma. Yet most of the people bitching and wailing about so - called "illegal aliens" NEVER availed themselves of that free education. Lots of them still live with mommy, living off her paycheck while they hide behind their keyboards, picking Internet fights and complaining about people willing to work to feed their families.

The best you can do for "solutions" is to force yourself onto the employer who busted his ass to build a business and make them hire you??? Not once has the anti-immigrant lobby acknowledged that the private employer owns the job he / she creates and should be able to give it to whomever they damn well please.

When someone takes the time to tell you how to rectify this situation without walls, without mass deportations, and without your precious POLICE STATE that makes George Orwell's 1984 pale by comparison, what does the anti-immigrant lobby do?

You could give Americans dibs on all those jobs you think "illegal aliens" as you call them are stealing (sic.) You could have wages increased... most of those wailing right now could get a good job (someone keeps deleting my posts that explain how that it is legally accomplished.)

At the end of the day this is really a war of genocide with the trimmings of respectability by falsely accusing people of being "illegal aliens" with NO REGARD for the concept of innocent until proven guilty / presumption of innocence. You would FORCE someone to give you something you did not earn and complain about what the person owning the job pays? Just to be clear: You want the ability to steal a job from an employer and force them to pay you what you think is the proper wages?

At the end of the day this is really a war of genocide with the trimmings of respectability by falsely accusing people of being "illegal aliens" with NO REGARD for the concept of innocent until proven guilty / presumption of innocence.

Genocide? LOL!

Sounds like you're having a really rough period this month. Eat some chocolate.

Why don't you do this board a favor and stick your head in a bucket of lye?

Splitting families up and separating them is a subtle form of genocide.

IF the American people would encourage the government to give substantial tax breaks for employers to hire Americans, some of them would get jobs and there would be less need for companies to hire foreigners.

You are NOT going to get a job by dressing up like a clown, masturbating, and trolling people on USM.
 
Wow! Cool!

Let's deport all the illegal aliens who didn't graduate from Yale.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole
 
Well, they do pay a bit in sales taxes.

They also produce more work for less money - and employers are spared the expenses of health insurance and unemployment taxes.

Then, when the undocumented goes to the hospital for routine health care, they are charged more as a cash customer than the guy with insurance (whose insurance company negotiates charges.)

The biggest net gain I see is that if you pay a Mexican crew $10,000 for a home improvement job and save half, not only is your house going to be worth more (so your assets are much higher for each dollar spent), but the banks can loan out FOUR TIMES the amount on their books. So, your remodel job generated $40,000 worth of money to be loaned out and you only spent $10,000. Had you let an over-priced, USDA approved, background checked, insured, licensed, bonded, American do the job, it would have cost you twice as much, generated only half what the Mexican crew did to be loaned out by the bank... and worse... worse... all that capital that could have been generated by the Mexican crew is wasted on the American who takes his money, runs to the stores and blows it on crap made in China, Mexico, Japan, Korea, and Viet Nam.

And there is more...
Slave Labour.

Americans are creating the "Slave Labour." Let's face it. The average American sits on their ass playing on the computer. They feed their bodies with junk food, booze, drugs (both legal and illegal), screw up their bodies with multiple body piercings and tattoos and a lot of them post 20, 30, 40, 50 THOUSAND or more posts on discussion boards (not to mention other social media.)

They are out of shape, can't show up for work, many don't even bother looking (it interferes with their social media interests.) Those people are not entrepreneurial; Hell they think an employer owes them a job simply because they were born on U.S. soil.

Taxpayers pay for every person in the United States to go to school and get a high school diploma. Yet most of the people bitching and wailing about so - called "illegal aliens" NEVER availed themselves of that free education. Lots of them still live with mommy, living off her paycheck while they hide behind their keyboards, picking Internet fights and complaining about people willing to work to feed their families.

The best you can do for "solutions" is to force yourself onto the employer who busted his ass to build a business and make them hire you??? Not once has the anti-immigrant lobby acknowledged that the private employer owns the job he / she creates and should be able to give it to whomever they damn well please.

When someone takes the time to tell you how to rectify this situation without walls, without mass deportations, and without your precious POLICE STATE that makes George Orwell's 1984 pale by comparison, what does the anti-immigrant lobby do?

You could give Americans dibs on all those jobs you think "illegal aliens" as you call them are stealing (sic.) You could have wages increased... most of those wailing right now could get a good job (someone keeps deleting my posts that explain how that it is legally accomplished.)

At the end of the day this is really a war of genocide with the trimmings of respectability by falsely accusing people of being "illegal aliens" with NO REGARD for the concept of innocent until proven guilty / presumption of innocence. You would FORCE someone to give you something you did not earn and complain about what the person owning the job pays? Just to be clear: You want the ability to steal a job from an employer and force them to pay you what you think is the proper wages?

At the end of the day this is really a war of genocide with the trimmings of respectability by falsely accusing people of being "illegal aliens" with NO REGARD for the concept of innocent until proven guilty / presumption of innocence.

Genocide? LOL!

Sounds like you're having a really rough period this month. Eat some chocolate.

Why don't you do this board a favor and stick your head in a bucket of lye?

Splitting families up and separating them is a subtle form of genocide.

IF the American people would encourage the government to give substantial tax breaks for employers to hire Americans, some of them would get jobs and there would be less need for companies to hire foreigners.

You are NOT going to get a job by dressing up like a clown, masturbating, and trolling people on USM.

Splitting families up and separating them is a subtle form of genocide.

The entire family needs to go, wouldn't want to split up a family.
 
Well, I guess that we should get rid of the riff-raff;

"As a DACA* student, Maria had to overcome insurmountable odds to pursue her education. A graduate from the Master's of Fine Arts Program at Yale University, she now teaches at the prestigious Pratt Institute in New York. Maria also plans to pursue a doctorate. Read her amazing story at http://www.myamericandreams.org/maria...

Wow! Cool!

Let's deport all the illegal aliens who didn't graduate from Yale.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?

Todd, go back and read my post slowly and carefully. I said that I wonder why ruining someone else's life seems to make your live better.
 
Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole

I am sure that you have a link to the "billions" of dollars that Chicago spends on educating illegal aliens. I wait on pins and needles while you produce it.
 
Wow! Cool!

Let's deport all the illegal aliens who didn't graduate from Yale.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?

Todd, go back and read my post slowly and carefully. I said that I wonder why ruining someone else's life seems to make your live better.

We can't afford millions of unskilled illegals and our huge welfare state.
Send them home.
 
Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole

I am sure that you have a link to the "billions" of dollars that Chicago spends on educating illegal aliens. I wait on pins and needles while you produce it.

$15,000 per student, per year.
 
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I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole

I am sure that you have a link to the "billions" of dollars that Chicago spends on educating illegal aliens. I wait on pins and needles while you produce it.

$15,000 per student, per year.

Well, now, Todd, let's see if I have this down tight. You maintain that Chicago spends "billions" on educating aliens. When I ask for a link, instead you simple post $15,000. yet, you don't even link that amount.

But, for the sake of discussion, let us suppose that you are right, that it costs $15,000 per year to educate someone in Chicago. So, the number of undocumenteds times that amount equals the annual cost. In order to figure that out, one would have to know how many undocumented there are in Chicago. I suspect it they knew that number, they would also know who they are, and where they live. But, you and I both know that they don't know that. Second, you are assuming that every undocumented is a child going to school. This is also ridiculas. In short, you are pulling numbers out of the air in front of your AM radio.

And, if you think that your taxes would go down if every undocumented person were to suddenly leave Chicago, you are naive, indeed. These people have not taken your job or your money. You have failed to explain why Dreamers are making your life miserable, or why your life would be better if they were all shipped out.
 
Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole

If one of us ever gets shipped out of this country, it will be you.

You are the most ignorant clown on this thread.

The basic reason that families get broken up in this scenario is because some family members are Americans. That's the main reason why, at the end of the day, your solution will ultimately fail.

There is no legal basis to deport American citizens whose family members have no papers. When the smoke clears, the United States Supreme Court will rule that you cannot keep families apart. Sooo... those people will either be given some kind of legal status OR we'll make citizens out of them.

Donald Trump wants to make roughly a third of them citizens right off the top of the bat. He knows full well what the Court will do in the end. Meanwhile, the POLICE STATE is being built with the help of the anti-immigrant lobby who feels they have a monopoly on solutions.

IF you want them to become citizens, it won't be long until they outnumber you and your entire lobbying efforts will become moot. And you will become irrelevant. You would be better served to abandon the strategy that ends not only in your political defeat, but also makes America the biggest POLICE STATE in human history.
 
I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole

I am sure that you have a link to the "billions" of dollars that Chicago spends on educating illegal aliens. I wait on pins and needles while you produce it.

$15,000 per student, per year.

Well, now, Todd, let's see if I have this down tight. You maintain that Chicago spends "billions" on educating aliens. When I ask for a link, instead you simple post $15,000. yet, you don't even link that amount.

But, for the sake of discussion, let us suppose that you are right, that it costs $15,000 per year to educate someone in Chicago. So, the number of undocumenteds times that amount equals the annual cost. In order to figure that out, one would have to know how many undocumented there are in Chicago. I suspect it they knew that number, they would also know who they are, and where they live. But, you and I both know that they don't know that. Second, you are assuming that every undocumented is a child going to school. This is also ridiculas. In short, you are pulling numbers out of the air in front of your AM radio.

And, if you think that your taxes would go down if every undocumented person were to suddenly leave Chicago, you are naive, indeed. These people have not taken your job or your money. You have failed to explain why Dreamers are making your life miserable, or why your life would be better if they were all shipped out.

Well, now, Todd, let's see if I have this down tight. You maintain that Chicago spends "billions" on educating aliens.

Yup.

And, if you think that your taxes would go down if every undocumented person were to suddenly leave Chicago, you are naive, indeed.

I don't expect taxes in Chicago to fall, even if every illegal alien is deported.

You have failed to explain why Dreamers are making your life miserable,

I didn't say they make my life miserable, I said they should be deported.
 
Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better.

How did 11 million, at least, illegal aliens make my life better?


Your reading skills are not even on par with a fifth grader. What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better. What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.


What you quoted did not say other people were making your life better.

No shit, fucktard.

What was said that destroying their lives won't make yours better.

If their presence didn't make my life better, at the very least their absence won't make my life worse.
In reality, here in Chicago, our already deep in the hole, public school system is spending billions we don't have, to "educate" illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens.

I'm sorry their home countries suck, but we can't afford them here.
They need to go. If that means you have to go too, buh-bye, asshole

If one of us ever gets shipped out of this country, it will be you.

You are the most ignorant clown on this thread.

The basic reason that families get broken up in this scenario is because some family members are Americans. That's the main reason why, at the end of the day, your solution will ultimately fail.

There is no legal basis to deport American citizens whose family members have no papers. When the smoke clears, the United States Supreme Court will rule that you cannot keep families apart. Sooo... those people will either be given some kind of legal status OR we'll make citizens out of them.

Donald Trump wants to make roughly a third of them citizens right off the top of the bat. He knows full well what the Court will do in the end. Meanwhile, the POLICE STATE is being built with the help of the anti-immigrant lobby who feels they have a monopoly on solutions.

IF you want them to become citizens, it won't be long until they outnumber you and your entire lobbying efforts will become moot. And you will become irrelevant. You would be better served to abandon the strategy that ends not only in your political defeat, but also makes America the biggest POLICE STATE in human history.

If one of us ever gets shipped out of this country, it will be you.

DERP!

You are the most ignorant clown on this thread.

Coming from a guy who thinks a $10,000 increase in the value of my home means my bank can make $40,000 in new loans, that is hilarious!!

The basic reason that families get broken up in this scenario is because some family members are Americans.

Deport the family members who are illegal. If you don't want families to be separated, they should
all go together.

When the smoke clears, the United States Supreme Court will rule that you cannot keep families apart.

I agree, we should not prevent the Americans from going with their families.

IF you want them to become citizens

I don't.
 
We could be making money with a better tourist visa.

All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id.

All they need is an ID from their country of origin and if they get a job, get a special Tax ID and be subject to the same taxes the subjects are in this country.
 
More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.
Explain Expedited Removal which requires none of that and is a recorded Federal Misdemeanor. SHRUG

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.
What immigration laws are used against US Citizens? SMFH

I have explained this many times. In fact, I have explained it to you, but you are a slow learner. Expedited removal only applies to those who waive their right to a hearing and trial. If they refuse to do that, then they must be given their day in court. I am sure that this just rips the heart out of Trumpettes, but that damned Constitution just keeps getting in your way.
LMFAO And your explanation, as has been explained to you numerous times and to which I have given cite showing your utter ignorance numerous times , shows you don't know what you are talking about.

Undocumented Immigrants Who Entered the U.S. Less Than Two Years Ago

Any undocumented immigrant who entered the U.S. unlawfully may be placed into expedited removal proceedings unless the person can demonstrate to immigration authorities that he or she has been continuously present in the United States for at least two years preceding the encounter. Expedited removal was expanded by the Trump Administration to include immigrants who are apprehended anywhere in the United States.

DHS previously used expedited removal procedures only for people found less than 100 miles from the border from either Mexico or Canada and who had illegally entered within 14 days or less. See "Expedited Removal No Longer Just a Border Procedure, Says DHS Memo" for more information about these recent changes.
When Expedited Removal Allows Deportation Without a Hearing

Totally false. ER may only be used if the suspect waives his right to a hearing. It is even written directly into the law, but frankly, I am tired of having to dig it up for the benefit of those that know nothing about law. In fact, if Mr. Border Patrol picks up Juan and wants to deport him, and Juan refused to say what country he came from, the feds would be hard pressed to decide to what country he should be deported, without a trial. I understand that all Latinos look alike to you, but Mexico does not consider itself a dumping ground for all Spanish speaking undocumenteds
LMFAO You are either an idiot or you simply can't accept the fact that Expedited Removal doesn't require any hearing, the illegal to waive their rights, or anything else.

How about from an illegal immigrant sympathy group? Expedited Removal - National Immigration Law Center
Expedited removal from the U.S., a procedure established by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, allows immigration officers to issue expedited removal orders against non-U.S. citizens, resulting in removals that, except in very limited circumstances, are carried out with no hearing or review by an immigration judge. Under the statute, the procedure may be used against noncitizens, except those from Cuba, who have not been admitted or paroled into the U.S., have been in the U.S. for less than two years, and are determined to be inadmissible for either (1) having used fraud or misrepresentation to procure an immigration benefit or (2) lacking a valid visa or other entry document (two of the grounds of inadmissibility).

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Why don't you do this board a favor and stick your head in a bucket of lye?

Splitting families up and separating them is a subtle form of genocide.
Do you claim the same when a single mother is put in jail and her children are placed into state custody or with a relative? SMFH
 
The basic reason that families get broken up in this scenario is because some family members are Americans. That's the main reason why, at the end of the day, your solution will ultimately fail.
How do you know they are Americans? Do they hold US Passports? A birth Certificate and an SS card do not prove American Citizenship. SHRUG

There is no legal basis to deport American citizens whose family members have no papers. When the smoke clears, the United States Supreme Court will rule that you cannot keep families apart. Sooo... those people will either be given some kind of legal status OR we'll make citizens out of them.
What American Citizens are being deported? The parents are being deported, they are simply taking their children with them. SCOTUS will do no such thing.

Donald Trump wants to make roughly a third of them citizens right off the top of the bat. He knows full well what the Court will do in the end. Meanwhile, the POLICE STATE is being built with the help of the anti-immigrant lobby who feels they have a monopoly on solutions.
Trump did nothing but play politics with it and put Dems in a position showing they weren't to interested in passing anything. It was politics. The court will do nothing as they have no jurisdiction over immigration. SMFH

IF you want them to become citizens, it won't be long until they outnumber you and your entire lobbying efforts will become moot. And you will become irrelevant. You would be better served to abandon the strategy that ends not only in your political defeat, but also makes America the biggest POLICE STATE in human history.
Why would we want them to be citizens? We want them gone. SMFH
 

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