Constitution? We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Constitution

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  1. teapartysamurai
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    Constitution? We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Constitution - Big Journalism

    Here is the money quote that tells it all:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iiirr5KI8"]YouTube - Phil Hare doesn't care.[/ame]


    What gets me is his cowardice when he is confronted with his lying. He takes the out of all outrageous liars. We have all met them. They tell ridiculous lies but demand we all believe them implicitly. When you "dare" not to believe them, they become outraged. (Bill Clinton springs to mind, in that category).

    So, he just trounces out because he knows he can't defend his outrageous lie, but he is still furious, they didn't believe it.

    "Do you KNOW what I do for a living? Peasant! How DARE you question me on the bill!"

    They really nailed him on this video. I love it.

    We need to get every one of those louses that voted for the bill on video, just like this and put them on the internet for everyone to see and remember for election time.

    November 2 is coming people, and I can't wait! :clap2:
     
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    Vanquish Vanquisher of shills

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    This video should make us all ashamed.

    1. He did say he doesn't care about the constitution. That's bad. Dreadfully bad.
    2. The video is insulting, "gotcha" rhetoric. I'm all for people holding representative accountable, but as you can tell from the video they insulted the man by calling him Nazi, Communist and now a liar.

    So here we have another example of how no one is winning when civilized debate falls by the wayside.
     
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    Now here this, someone's lying and it isn't me! Centrist my ass. If I had a dime for every liberal that claimed to be a "centrist, progressive, blah blah blah," I would be richer than George Soros. :doubt:

    The only person who said "NAZI" in this video was PHIL HARRIS the Congressman. He says under his breathe "oh you call me a liar and a Nazi."

    No one in the video beside Phil Harris utters the word Nazi.

    Another tactic of the LYING LIBERALS. They KNOW they cannot fight the truth on the right, so they are trying to smear us.

    And if ANYONE has been calling anyone NAZI it has been liberals who have called conservatives Nazi since I have been alive.

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    And shall we remember Nancy Pelosi's lying claim of tea partiers carrying "swastikaaaaaaaahs."

    Keep on lying liberals. All it reveals is, how afraid you are to debate us honestly, because if you do, you know you lose.

    :lol:
     
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    Where in the Constitution is there any authority for this bill?

    The Commerce Clause.

    Another thing - what is the origin of the phrase, "at the point of a gun," that is tossed about so freely by rabid conservatives, opposed to the bill? It certainly does not mention anything about "at the point of a gun" in the bill itself.

    What is the origin of that phrase, other than from the inflammatory brain of some right wing strategist, bent on mischaracterizing the health care bill?
     
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    WHAT???????

    The interstate commerce clause says the government can FORCE you to buy something?????

    What the hell????????

    PLEASE try to explain that one. I would LOVE to hear you try and explain that one. :lol:

    And if the government is forcing you to do something it is at the point of a gun. It's not like the government has never done that before.

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    Good for him for revealing the true nature of his beliefs...we need people to reveal their true colors!
     
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    Not buying something isn't commerce.
     
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    And forcing people to buy something isn't commerce either. It's an unfunded mandate.
     
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    Still is amazing that these wingers fully believe the commerce clause (and the 'general welfare' clause) is a catch all for any government power
     
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    Not buying a product or service is not "commerce". That's inactivity.

    What's more, the Commerce Clause was originally intended, in a domestic sense, to prevent States from putting tariffs on one another. Everybody knows that. It's disingenuous, at best, to claim otherwise. The Commerce Clause has been sorely abused, and this Healthcare pile-o-crap is just the latest, albeit most egregious, example.

    I don't believe that the Supreme Court will allow this perversion of the Commerce Clause to stand. But if they do, there is NOTHING that the central government can no longer demand of American citizens. The U.S. Constitution will be effectively dead.

    And that brings us to "the point of the gun". All government is essentially FORCE. Laws cannot stand unless they are enforced by the government that makes them. Ayn Rand used this phrase, "at the point of a gun" frequently to describe the "force" of government. And she was correct. Certainly, if one fails to observe some arbitrary law of government, force will be applied by increment. We might start off with a written complaint against us, an order to a court hearing, a warrant for arrest, and when tracked out to the end scenario, when all other methods of forcing compliance are exhausted... that citizen will have a gun put in his face.

    THIS is what you stand for when you stand for Obamacare. You stand for the END of Constitutional Law, and for the use of FORCE to be applied upon citizens in order to uphold the baseless, arbitrary legislation of the mob.
     
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