Conspiracy Theories and Paranoia

[JimBowie1958]

Polls show most Americans want better gun control. You'll discount that and say it's made up by the media. No arguing with people like you. Your only argument is "Nuh uh!"

No, there are plenty of other arguments, like:
1. The current laws on the books are not being enforced. That would be a good place to start before piling on more laws, wouldnt you think?
2. Current laws are broken already. IF a law against murder is not going to stop a killer, then why would a law that says they cant do strawman purchases dissuade them instead?
3. Most of these laws even if they were implemented perfectly would not have stopped the crimes that they are supposedly designed to prevent. The killers in San Bernardino went around background check laws, and yet this is the response by the libtards? Why not something that is proven to work, like letting more people carry concealed and stop harassing legal gun owners?

Good God, you are a moron

 

[PredFan]

First of all, not everything that could be called a conspiracy theory is bogus. For instance the Democrats have a theory that the majority of Americans want strict gun control but the NRA, which is mostly financed by the gun manufacturers are preventing this from happening in Congress.

That is the conspiracy they believe and since they have no proof, it's simply a theory.

It is ignorant for people to claim that conspiracy theories are believed by kooks alone. Yes there are some out there that we all know to be ridiculous but many are called ridiculous when they aren't. The OP have two examples that she claimed were silly but aren't at all.

The left US planning on taking away guns, there is little doubt about that, and a lot of people celebrated 9-11 in New Jersey, that was an exaggeration and not a kook theory.

You people need an education.

Polls show most Americans want better gun control. You'll discount that and say it's made up by the media. No arguing with people like you. Your only argument is "Nuh uh!"

I didn't say that you illiterate left wing nutter. Read it again. I clearly used it as an example of a conspiracy theory, which is exactly correct. Wether it is right or wrong is irrelevant.

 

[ranfunck]

It amazes me that so many people buy into the conspiracy theories that abound in our culture: Obama is going to take away your guns; no shooting occurred at Sandy Hook and it, like 9/11 are "false flags"; thousands of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in New Jersey; the Jade Helm military operation that took place last summer was going to impose martial law, etc., etc., etc. Why are these theories so popular? I think there are several reasons: 1. They give people something to focus their vague frustrations on. They may not be able to articulate why they're angry or unhappy, but a conspiracy is a "thing". 2. They feel privileged to have special knowledge, secret knowledge, that the average person, or someone they disagree with doesn't have. They're "in the know" and the rest of us are ignorant of what's really going on. 3. Fighting this conspiracy gives them a purpose in life. It gives them an identity, a reason for being, as the French say, raison d'etre. 4. Maybe it's just fun to flout conventional wisdom. But when a conspiracy theory leads to paranoia, then it goes over the line from silliness to pathological and becomes dangerous for the person involved and the public at large.

Conspiracy theories play one of two roles. And sometimes both.

1) It reinforces what one already believes by creating a fantastically elaborate narrative that says what you think. Its the delusional cousin of Confirmation Bias. Where Confirmation Bias has you ignoring what you don't agree with and only recognizing what you do.....conspiracy theories have you inventing your own evidence.

2) It comforts those who find their conspiracy far less frightening than the idea of randomness and chaos, providing them with a sense of control. 19 guys on planes being able to take down the entire WTC complex is far more terrifying to them than some vast international conspiracy involving everyone from the FDNY to the US government to the Port Authority janitorial staff. Because if some vast conspiracy 'shadow government' planned and executed the attacks....that means someone is in control. And they'd rather imagine their own boogeymen being in control than recognize that there is a degree of randomness and chance beyond our control in the world.

You can not say this guy is not a fraud, if the government and media try and pass this off as a rill event then there is no telling what they will do.

Ah, the 'New World Order'. The conspiracy Rorschach test. With it taking whatever form and whatever agenda that confirms your bias.

Just as I thought nothing intelligent to say.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But the moment you bring the 'New World Order' into it, you're essentially projecting your beliefs into a blank canvas. As the 'New World Order' is whatever you imagine it to be. Supporting whatever agenda is convenient to the argument you are making.

Its why I call it a conspiracy 'Rorschach test'. As an individuals description of the 'Order' tells us plenty about the individual. And virtually nothing about the NWO.

It amazes me that so many people buy into the conspiracy theories that abound in our culture: Obama is going to take away your guns; no shooting occurred at Sandy Hook and it, like 9/11 are "false flags"; thousands of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in New Jersey; the Jade Helm military operation that took place last summer was going to impose martial law, etc., etc., etc. Why are these theories so popular? I think there are several reasons: 1. They give people something to focus their vague frustrations on. They may not be able to articulate why they're angry or unhappy, but a conspiracy is a "thing". 2. They feel privileged to have special knowledge, secret knowledge, that the average person, or someone they disagree with doesn't have. They're "in the know" and the rest of us are ignorant of what's really going on. 3. Fighting this conspiracy gives them a purpose in life. It gives them an identity, a reason for being, as the French say, raison d'etre. 4. Maybe it's just fun to flout conventional wisdom. But when a conspiracy theory leads to paranoia, then it goes over the line from silliness to pathological and becomes dangerous for the person involved and the public at large.

Conspiracy theories play one of two roles. And sometimes both.

1) It reinforces what one already believes by creating a fantastically elaborate narrative that says what you think. Its the delusional cousin of Confirmation Bias. Where Confirmation Bias has you ignoring what you don't agree with and only recognizing what you do.....conspiracy theories have you inventing your own evidence.

2) It comforts those who find their conspiracy far less frightening than the idea of randomness and chaos, providing them with a sense of control. 19 guys on planes being able to take down the entire WTC complex is far more terrifying to them than some vast international conspiracy involving everyone from the FDNY to the US government to the Port Authority janitorial staff. Because if some vast conspiracy 'shadow government' planned and executed the attacks....that means someone is in control. And they'd rather imagine their own boogeymen being in control than recognize that there is a degree of randomness and chance beyond our control in the world.

You can not say this guy is not a fraud, if the government and media try and pass this off as a rill event then there is no telling what they will do.

Ah, the 'New World Order'. The conspiracy Rorschach test. With it taking whatever form and whatever agenda that confirms your bias.

Just as I thought nothing intelligent to say.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But the moment you bring the 'New World Order' into it, you're essentially projecting your beliefs into a blank canvas. As the 'New World Order' is whatever you imagine it to be. Supporting whatever agenda is convenient to the argument you are making.

Its why I call it a conspiracy 'Rorschach test'. As an individuals description of the 'Order' tells us plenty about the individual. And virtually nothing about the NWO.

Skylar what I am saying is the hero in that vid is a fraud, but the government and media portray him to be a hero. If they will lie about him being a hero they will lie about any thing. Don't reply if you don't watch it.

 

[Skylar]

Conspiracy theories play one of two roles. And sometimes both.

1) It reinforces what one already believes by creating a fantastically elaborate narrative that says what you think. Its the delusional cousin of Confirmation Bias. Where Confirmation Bias has you ignoring what you don't agree with and only recognizing what you do.....conspiracy theories have you inventing your own evidence.

2) It comforts those who find their conspiracy far less frightening than the idea of randomness and chaos, providing them with a sense of control. 19 guys on planes being able to take down the entire WTC complex is far more terrifying to them than some vast international conspiracy involving everyone from the FDNY to the US government to the Port Authority janitorial staff. Because if some vast conspiracy 'shadow government' planned and executed the attacks....that means someone is in control. And they'd rather imagine their own boogeymen being in control than recognize that there is a degree of randomness and chance beyond our control in the world.

You can not say this guy is not a fraud, if the government and media try and pass this off as a rill event then there is no telling what they will do.

Ah, the 'New World Order'. The conspiracy Rorschach test. With it taking whatever form and whatever agenda that confirms your bias.

Just as I thought nothing intelligent to say.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But the moment you bring the 'New World Order' into it, you're essentially projecting your beliefs into a blank canvas. As the 'New World Order' is whatever you imagine it to be. Supporting whatever agenda is convenient to the argument you are making.

Its why I call it a conspiracy 'Rorschach test'. As an individuals description of the 'Order' tells us plenty about the individual. And virtually nothing about the NWO.

Conspiracy theories play one of two roles. And sometimes both.

1) It reinforces what one already believes by creating a fantastically elaborate narrative that says what you think. Its the delusional cousin of Confirmation Bias. Where Confirmation Bias has you ignoring what you don't agree with and only recognizing what you do.....conspiracy theories have you inventing your own evidence.

2) It comforts those who find their conspiracy far less frightening than the idea of randomness and chaos, providing them with a sense of control. 19 guys on planes being able to take down the entire WTC complex is far more terrifying to them than some vast international conspiracy involving everyone from the FDNY to the US government to the Port Authority janitorial staff. Because if some vast conspiracy 'shadow government' planned and executed the attacks....that means someone is in control. And they'd rather imagine their own boogeymen being in control than recognize that there is a degree of randomness and chance beyond our control in the world.

You can not say this guy is not a fraud, if the government and media try and pass this off as a rill event then there is no telling what they will do.

Ah, the 'New World Order'. The conspiracy Rorschach test. With it taking whatever form and whatever agenda that confirms your bias.

Just as I thought nothing intelligent to say.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But the moment you bring the 'New World Order' into it, you're essentially projecting your beliefs into a blank canvas. As the 'New World Order' is whatever you imagine it to be. Supporting whatever agenda is convenient to the argument you are making.

Its why I call it a conspiracy 'Rorschach test'. As an individuals description of the 'Order' tells us plenty about the individual. And virtually nothing about the NWO.

Skylar what I am saying is the hero in that vid is a fraud, but the government and media portray him to be a hero. If they will lie about him being a hero they will lie about any thing. Don't reply if you don't watch it.

The video is 56 minutes long. Even you haven't watched the whole thing. Summarize it for me.

 

[ranfunck]

You only need to watch ten minutes of it to see what I am saying

 

[Skylar]

You only need to watch ten minutes of it to see what I am saying

As I said, even you won't watch this video. If you have an argument to present, present it. If you have a url to a video you're not going to watch, you'll need to do better.

 

[ranfunck]

Quit wasting my fucking time.

 

[Skylar]

Quit wasting my fucking time.

Says the guy that can't summarize his own argument and posted a 56 minute youtube video he's never watched....but insists I do.

Present your argument. Or don't. I genuinely don't care either way.

 

[Tehon]

It amazes me that so many people buy into the conspiracy theories that abound in our culture: Obama is going to take away your guns; no shooting occurred at Sandy Hook and it, like 9/11 are "false flags"; thousands of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in New Jersey; the Jade Helm military operation that took place last summer was going to impose martial law, etc., etc., etc. Why are these theories so popular? I think there are several reasons: 1. They give people something to focus their vague frustrations on. They may not be able to articulate why they're angry or unhappy, but a conspiracy is a "thing". 2. They feel privileged to have special knowledge, secret knowledge, that the average person, or someone they disagree with doesn't have. They're "in the know" and the rest of us are ignorant of what's really going on. 3. Fighting this conspiracy gives them a purpose in life. It gives them an identity, a reason for being, as the French say, raison d'etre. 4. Maybe it's just fun to flout conventional wisdom. But when a conspiracy theory leads to paranoia, then it goes over the line from silliness to pathological and becomes dangerous for the person involved and the public at large.

Conspiracy theories play one of two roles. And sometimes both.

1) It reinforces what one already believes by creating a fantastically elaborate narrative that says what you think. Its the delusional cousin of Confirmation Bias. Where Confirmation Bias has you ignoring what you don't agree with and only recognizing what you do.....conspiracy theories have you inventing your own evidence.

2) It comforts those who find their conspiracy far less frightening than the idea of randomness and chaos, providing them with a sense of control. 19 guys on planes being able to take down the entire WTC complex is far more terrifying to them than some vast international conspiracy involving everyone from the FDNY to the US government to the Port Authority janitorial staff. Because if some vast conspiracy 'shadow government' planned and executed the attacks....that means someone is in control. And they'd rather imagine their own boogeymen being in control than recognize that there is a degree of randomness and chance beyond our control in the world.

You realize of course, you are not immune to confirmation bias. Your beliefs about conspiracy theories have you making generalizations and attempting to marginalize people who do not share your biases. Your second bullet point provides an excellent example.

BTW, it wasn't randomness and chaos that terrorized America on 9/11. It was at least 19 people who conspired to do it.

 

[Jeddahite]

Polls show most Americans want better gun control. You'll discount that and say it's made up by the media. No arguing with people like you. Your only argument is "Nuh uh!"

No, there are plenty of other arguments, like:
1. The current laws on the books are not being enforced. That would be a good place to start before piling on more laws, wouldnt you think?
2. Current laws are broken already. IF a law against murder is not going to stop a killer, then why would a law that says they cant do strawman purchases dissuade them instead?
3. Most of these laws even if they were implemented perfectly would not have stopped the crimes that they are supposedly designed to prevent. The killers in San Bernardino went around background check laws, and yet this is the response by the libtards? Why not something that is proven to work, like letting more people carry concealed and stop harassing legal gun owners?

Good God, you are a moron

Most Americans support better control. Your points do nothing to change that fact.

 

[Jeddahite]

Good God, you are a moron

If calling me a moron makes you feel smarter, then go for it. Whatever works for you.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Polls show most Americans want better gun control. You'll discount that and say it's made up by the media. No arguing with people like you. Your only argument is "Nuh uh!"

No, there are plenty of other arguments, like:
1. The current laws on the books are not being enforced. That would be a good place to start before piling on more laws, wouldnt you think?
2. Current laws are broken already. IF a law against murder is not going to stop a killer, then why would a law that says they cant do strawman purchases dissuade them instead?
3. Most of these laws even if they were implemented perfectly would not have stopped the crimes that they are supposedly designed to prevent. The killers in San Bernardino went around background check laws, and yet this is the response by the libtards? Why not something that is proven to work, like letting more people carry concealed and stop harassing legal gun owners?

Good God, you are a moron

Most Americans support better control. Your points do nothing to change that fact.

Most Americans support world peace and universal love and having flying Unicorns shit out Skittles to everyone equally.

That has nothing to do with REality, doofus.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Good God, you are a moron

If calling me a moron makes you feel smarter, then go for it. Whatever works for you.

I dont feel any particular thing about it.

It just means that you are yet another libtard who doesnt even realize the Marxist roots to her own thinking.

 

[daisiesRwild]

It amazes me that so many people buy into the conspiracy theories that abound in our culture: Obama is going to take away your guns; no shooting occurred at Sandy Hook and it, like 9/11 are "false flags"; thousands of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in New Jersey; the Jade Helm military operation that took place last summer was going to impose martial law, etc., etc., etc. Why are these theories so popular? I think there are several reasons: 1. They give people something to focus their vague frustrations on. They may not be able to articulate why they're angry or unhappy, but a conspiracy is a "thing". 2. They feel privileged to have special knowledge, secret knowledge, that the average person, or someone they disagree with doesn't have. They're "in the know" and the rest of us are ignorant of what's really going on. 3. Fighting this conspiracy gives them a purpose in life. It gives them an identity, a reason for being, as the French say, raison d'etre. 4. Maybe it's just fun to flout conventional wisdom. But when a conspiracy theory leads to paranoia, then it goes over the line from silliness to pathological and becomes dangerous for the person involved and the public at large.

do you realize most all supposed conspiracy theories have been proven to be true...?

 

[Skylar]

It amazes me that so many people buy into the conspiracy theories that abound in our culture: Obama is going to take away your guns; no shooting occurred at Sandy Hook and it, like 9/11 are "false flags"; thousands of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in New Jersey; the Jade Helm military operation that took place last summer was going to impose martial law, etc., etc., etc. Why are these theories so popular? I think there are several reasons: 1. They give people something to focus their vague frustrations on. They may not be able to articulate why they're angry or unhappy, but a conspiracy is a "thing". 2. They feel privileged to have special knowledge, secret knowledge, that the average person, or someone they disagree with doesn't have. They're "in the know" and the rest of us are ignorant of what's really going on. 3. Fighting this conspiracy gives them a purpose in life. It gives them an identity, a reason for being, as the French say, raison d'etre. 4. Maybe it's just fun to flout conventional wisdom. But when a conspiracy theory leads to paranoia, then it goes over the line from silliness to pathological and becomes dangerous for the person involved and the public at large.

do you realize most all supposed conspiracy theories have been proven to be true...?

No they haven't.

911 was never 'proven' to be true.
The world was never 'proven' to be flat.
The moon landing was never 'proven' to be a hoax.
Sandyhook was never 'proven' to be a false flag.
And on,
and on,
and on.

 

[PredFan]

It amazes me that so many people buy into the conspiracy theories that abound in our culture: Obama is going to take away your guns; no shooting occurred at Sandy Hook and it, like 9/11 are "false flags"; thousands of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in New Jersey; the Jade Helm military operation that took place last summer was going to impose martial law, etc., etc., etc. Why are these theories so popular? I think there are several reasons: 1. They give people something to focus their vague frustrations on. They may not be able to articulate why they're angry or unhappy, but a conspiracy is a "thing". 2. They feel privileged to have special knowledge, secret knowledge, that the average person, or someone they disagree with doesn't have. They're "in the know" and the rest of us are ignorant of what's really going on. 3. Fighting this conspiracy gives them a purpose in life. It gives them an identity, a reason for being, as the French say, raison d'etre. 4. Maybe it's just fun to flout conventional wisdom. But when a conspiracy theory leads to paranoia, then it goes over the line from silliness to pathological and becomes dangerous for the person involved and the public at large.

do you realize most all supposed conspiracy theories have been proven to be true...?

Name one.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No they haven't.

911 was never 'proven' to be true.
The world was never 'proven' to be flat.
The moon landing was never 'proven' to be a hoax.
Sandyhook was never 'proven' to be a false flag.
And on,
and on,
and on.

No, most conspiracy theories are neither, proven to be true or false.

As soon as they are proven, you jack asses claim that they were obvious all along, and if proven not true, the nutjobs pushing them simply change their theory again to be not disproven.

But the Mafia exists, though once universally held to not be true.

The Watergate conspiracy was true though the US Federalis insisted it was not.

The Communist conspiracy is proven true with the decyphering and access to the Venona papers.

But the Losers of History, like yourself, can not admit to being the pathetic buffoons that yo have been, so you will lie and obfuscate till the day you die.

 

[JimBowie1958]

do you realize most all supposed conspiracy theories have been proven to be true...?

Name one.

the Mafia was claimed to be a conspiracy theory for decades, as was the Communist conspiracy and the Watergate conspiracy.

Was three over doing it?

 

[Skylar]

No they haven't.

911 was never 'proven' to be true.
The world was never 'proven' to be flat.
The moon landing was never 'proven' to be a hoax.
Sandyhook was never 'proven' to be a false flag.
And on,
and on,
and on.

No, most conspiracy theories are neither, proven to be true or false.

As soon as they are proven, you jack asses claim that they were obvious all along, and if proven not true, the nutjobs pushing them simply change their theory again to be not disproven.

But the Mafia exists, though once universally held to not be true.

The Watergate conspiracy was true though the US Federalis insisted it was not.

The Communist conspiracy is proven true with the decyphering and access to the Venona papers.

But the Losers of History, like yourself, can not admit to being the pathetic buffoons that yo have been, so you will lie and obfuscate till the day you die.

Wow. You're just in full insult mode today and out of no where.

Lets try this again, without the tantrum. Do you disagree with this any statement I have listed here:

911 was never 'proven' to be true.
The world was never 'proven' to be flat.
The moon landing was never 'proven' to be a hoax.
Sandyhook was never 'proven' to be a false flag.

If no, then why the insults? You're being unnecessarily toxic. As no one is attacking you.​

 

[blackhawk]