"Conservative" Democrats?

[Kosh]

"Conservative" Democrats?

Not allowed in the Democrat party anymore. The party was hijacked openly by the far left during the Carter years and has not looked back.

They were once called Blue Dog Democrats, but the far left made sure they did not have a voice in the party.

They are still called Blue Dog Democrats. There are 15 or 16 left, now that Giffords resigned after being shot by a gun nut. To you wingnuts, everyone who isn't a teabagger is "far left".

Even more far left propaganda!

 

[Kosh]

"Conservative" Democrats?

Not allowed in the Democrat party anymore. The party was hijacked openly by the far left during the Carter years and has not looked back.

They were once called Blue Dog Democrats, but the far left made sure they did not have a voice in the party.

Conservatives and the GOP .. rightwingers ... palace coup ... news flash

And even more boring far left propaganda.

 

[Borillar]

Not allowed in the Democrat party anymore. The party was hijacked openly by the far left during the Carter years and has not looked back.

They were once called Blue Dog Democrats, but the far left made sure they did not have a voice in the party.

Conservatives and the GOP .. rightwingers ... palace coup ... news flash

And even more boring far left propaganda.

Enough with the far right propaganda.

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

"Conservative" Democrats?

Not allowed in the Democrat party anymore. The party was hijacked openly by the far left during the Carter years and has not looked back.

They were once called Blue Dog Democrats, but the far left made sure they did not have a voice in the party.

They are still called Blue Dog Democrats. There are 15 or 16 left, now that Giffords resigned after being shot by a gun nut. To you wingnuts, everyone who isn't a teabagger is "far left".

But as Kosh indicated, they have no voice, no influence on the party whatsoever.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

There are RINOs, and DINOs, and my own contribution to the acronym fun UNICORNs.

UNappealing
Ignorant
COnservative
Republican
Nincompoop

UNICORN

 

[Borillar]

There are RINOs, and DINOs, and my own contribution to the acronym fun UNICORNs.

UNappealing
Ignorant
COnservative
Republican
Nincompoop

UNICORN

or ASSHOLES (Americans secretly serving higher order, law enforcement, & subservience)

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

There are a lot of Democrats in urban populations that are conservative, but are too stupid to know it. They don't want govt. all up in their bizzo, but they've been brainwashed into thinking that Dems are great and Republicans are evil.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

There are RINOs, and DINOs, and my own contribution to the acronym fun UNICORNs.

UNappealing
Ignorant
COnservative
Republican
Nincompoop

UNICORN

OMG! That is so gonna catch on!

 

[Londoner]

Is there really such a thing anymore? All I see from that party are nothing but whacked out Leftists and Communists.

Typical low information post by the Talk Radio/FOX News crowd.

Why don't you give us an analysis of the voting records from a large cross-section of Democrats.

You might even try doing something Conservatives never do, which is provide some historical analysis.

You could start with the Blue Dog Democrats who voted against the Public Option and have consistently opposed gay marriage. I'm sure you know about people like Glen Browder and Bud Cramer of Alabama. I'm sure you're not just repeating talk radio garbage. I can tell you are a policy man who studies voting records, not just another idiot who casually listens to folks like Rush Limbaugh and buys into it hook line and sinker. Please tell us about democrats Blanche Lincoln and Gary Condit of California, both with voting records right of center. You might also include Democrat Pete Geren who joined the Bush administration, or Joe Liberman who not only campaigned with McCain but has consistently opposed Obama. (FYI: the Blue Dogs became a formal coalition in the 90's at the same time that the GOP moved far right and began exiling moderate Republicans who didn't vote 100% with party leadership and their funding base (Koch Brothers, Olin, etc).

We'd really would like to hear how much you know about the recent evolution of Blue Dog Democrats (the successor to the Dixiecrats from the postwar years, who supported FDR, but who later disbanded when the Left shifted from traditional working class issues to racial and lifestyle politics, along with greatly expanding the welfare state. These are the reasons that Reagan, who campaigned for Truman, cited for leaving the party.)

The OP doesn't seem to know anything about politics. He just repeats Talk Radio talking points without offering any data. Perhaps he could tell us about how the conservative Blue Dog Coalition went from 27 members to 14 because they lost members to a new centrist Democrat Coalition which supported pro-growth economic policies filled with support for tax cuts, deregulation and vigorous opposition to huge portions of ObamaCare.

Does the OP know about the democrat coalition in the house who oppose Pelosi from the Right. (FYI: this coalition is filled with Centrists who use to be in the moderate wing of the GOP. They are from a lineage of moderate GOP politicians that goes back to Teddy Roosevelt and continued all the way to the "Rockefeller Republicans". Eisenhower and Nixon (who were great fucking presidents) were from the moderate wing of the GOP, which was thoroughly destroyed by Movement Conservatism, which purged all members of the party who were not far right. Meaning: the Republican party tolerates no dissent whereas the Democrats still has a thriving coalition of center right members. Why doesn't the OP know about this? Because he gets all his information from Talk Radio, Fox News and other partisan media sources. I wish people like this would do some research before they spewed propaganda to fellow low-information voters.

Here is the list of Democrats that consistently oppose Pelosi from the Right. (The Republicans don't not have a similar "centrist coalition" because the Koch brothers have vowed to primary any politician who doesn't vote 100% with das party)

Alabama
Terri Sewell (AL-07)
Arizona
Ron Barber (AZ-02)
California
Ami Bera (CA-07)
Lois Capps (CA-24)
Susan Davis (CA-53)
Scott H. Peters (CA-52)
Loretta Sanchez (CA-46)
Adam Schiff (CA-28)
Juan Vargas (CA-51)
Colorado
Jared Polis (CO-2)
Ed Perlmutter (CO-7)
Connecticut
Joe Courtney (CT-2)
Elizabeth Esty (CT-05)
Jim Himes (CT-04)
Delaware
John C. Carney, Jr. (DE-At Large)
Florida
Joe Garcia (FL-26)
Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-23)
Georgia
John Barrow (GA-12)
David Scott (GA-13)
Hawaii
Colleen Hanabusa (HI-01)
Illinois[edit]
Bill Foster (IL-11)
Mike Quigley (IL-05)
Brad Schneider (IL-10)
Indiana
André Carson (IN-7)
Louisiana
Cedric Richmond (LA-2)
Maryland
John Delaney (MD-06)
Michigan
Gary Peters (MI-14)
New Jersey
Rush D. Holt (NJ-12)
New York
Dan Maffei (NY-24)
Sean Patrick Maloney (NY-18)
Carolyn McCarthy (NY-4)
Gregory Meeks (NY-5)
Eliot L. Engel (NY-16)
Bill Owens (NY-21)
North Carolina
Mike McIntyre (NC-07)
Oregon
Kurt Schrader (OR-5)
Pennsylvania
Allyson Schwartz (PA-13)
Puerto Rico
Pedro Pierluisi (PR-At Large)
Tennessee
Jim Cooper (TN-05)
Texas
Joaquin Castro (TX-20)
Filemon Vela, Jr. (TX-34)
Virginia
Jim Moran (VA-8)
Gerry Connolly (VA-11)
Washington
Suzan DelBene (WA-01)
Denny Heck (WA-10)
Derek Kilmer (WA-06)
Rick Larsen (WA-2)
Adam Smith (WA-9)
Wisconsin
Ron Kind (WI-3)

 

[bripat9643]

Is there really such a thing anymore? All I see from that party are nothing but whacked out Leftists and Communists.

Yes of course there is. There are fiscal conservatives who do not wish to join in the myriad morally driven social causes that republicans involve themselves with and so they are democrats. If you feel a conservative must also be involved with what goes on in America's bedrooms and uteruses then perhaps not.

Bullshit. Name one Democrat that has voted to cut spending in the last 5 years.

 

[bripat9643]

Is there really such a thing anymore? All I see from that party are nothing but whacked out Leftists and Communists.

Typical low information post by the Talk Radio/FOX News crowd.

Why don't you give us an analysis of the voting records from a large cross-section of Democrats.

You might even try doing something Conservatives never do, which is provide some historical analysis.

You could start with the Blue Dog Democrats who voted against the Public Option and have consistently opposed gay marriage. I'm sure you know about people like Glen Browder and Bud Cramer of Alabama. I'm sure you're not just repeating talk radio garbage. I can tell you are a policy man who studies voting records, not just another idiot who casually listens to folks like Rush Limbaugh and buys into it hook line and sinker. Please tell us about democrats Blanche Lincoln and Gary Condit of California, both with voting records right of center. You might also include Democrat Pete Geren who joined the Bush administration, or Joe Liberman who not only campaigned with McCain but has consistently opposed Obama. (FYI: the Blue Dogs became a formal coalition in the 90's at the same time that the GOP moved far right and began exiling moderate Republicans who didn't vote 100% with party leadership and their funding base (Koch Brothers, Olin, etc).

We'd really would like to hear how much you know about the recent evolution of Blue Dog Democrats (the successor to the Dixiecrats from the postwar years, who supported FDR, but who later disbanded when the Left shifted from traditional working class issues to racial and lifestyle politics, along with greatly expanding the welfare state. These are the reasons that Reagan, who campaigned for Truman, cited for leaving the party.)

The OP doesn't seem to know anything about politics. He just repeats Talk Radio talking points without offering any data. Perhaps he could tell us about how the conservative Blue Dog Coalition went from 27 members to 14 because they lost members to a new centrist Democrat Coalition which supported pro-growth economic policies filled with support for tax cuts, deregulation and vigorous opposition to huge portions of ObamaCare.

Does the OP know about the democrat coalition in the house who oppose Pelosi from the Right. (FYI: this coalition is filled with Centrists who use to be in the moderate wing of the GOP. They are from a lineage of moderate GOP politicians that goes back to Teddy Roosevelt and continued all the way to the "Rockefeller Republicans". Eisenhower and Nixon (who were great fucking presidents) were from the moderate wing of the GOP, which was thoroughly destroyed by Movement Conservatism, which purged all members of the party who were not far right. Meaning: the Republican party tolerates no dissent whereas the Democrats still has a thriving coalition of center right members. Why doesn't the OP know about this? Because he gets all his information from Talk Radio, Fox News and other partisan media sources. I wish people like this would do some research before they spewed propaganda to fellow low-information voters.

Here is the list of Democrats that consistently oppose Pelosi from the Right. (The Republicans don't not have a similar "centrist coalition" because the Koch brothers have vowed to primary any politician who doesn't vote 100% with das party)

Alabama
Terri Sewell (AL-07)
Arizona
Ron Barber (AZ-02)
California
Ami Bera (CA-07)
Lois Capps (CA-24)
Susan Davis (CA-53)
Scott H. Peters (CA-52)
Loretta Sanchez (CA-46)
Adam Schiff (CA-28)
Juan Vargas (CA-51)
Colorado
Jared Polis (CO-2)
Ed Perlmutter (CO-7)
Connecticut
Joe Courtney (CT-2)
Elizabeth Esty (CT-05)
Jim Himes (CT-04)
Delaware
John C. Carney, Jr. (DE-At Large)
Florida
Joe Garcia (FL-26)
Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-23)
Georgia
John Barrow (GA-12)
David Scott (GA-13)
Hawaii
Colleen Hanabusa (HI-01)
Illinois[edit]
Bill Foster (IL-11)
Mike Quigley (IL-05)
Brad Schneider (IL-10)
Indiana
André Carson (IN-7)
Louisiana
Cedric Richmond (LA-2)
Maryland
John Delaney (MD-06)
Michigan
Gary Peters (MI-14)
New Jersey
Rush D. Holt (NJ-12)
New York
Dan Maffei (NY-24)
Sean Patrick Maloney (NY-18)
Carolyn McCarthy (NY-4)
Gregory Meeks (NY-5)
Eliot L. Engel (NY-16)
Bill Owens (NY-21)
North Carolina
Mike McIntyre (NC-07)
Oregon
Kurt Schrader (OR-5)
Pennsylvania
Allyson Schwartz (PA-13)
Puerto Rico
Pedro Pierluisi (PR-At Large)
Tennessee
Jim Cooper (TN-05)
Texas
Joaquin Castro (TX-20)
Filemon Vela, Jr. (TX-34)
Virginia
Jim Moran (VA-8)
Gerry Connolly (VA-11)
Washington
Suzan DelBene (WA-01)
Denny Heck (WA-10)
Derek Kilmer (WA-06)
Rick Larsen (WA-2)
Adam Smith (WA-9)
Wisconsin
Ron Kind (WI-3)

You mean they vote against Democrat Bills whenever it doesn't matter. If it does matter, then they vote as Pelosi orders.

 

[bripat9643]

There are RINOs, and DINOs, and my own contribution to the acronym fun UNICORNs.

UNappealing
Ignorant
COnservative
Republican
Nincompoop

UNICORN

Name one "DINO."

 

[Londoner]

You mean they vote against Democrat Bills whenever it doesn't matter. If it does matter, then they vote as Pelosi orders.

False. They told Pelosi to fuck off when they killed the Public Option, which effectively destroyed the most significant piece of Democratic legislation since Medicare. In effect, they turned it into RomneyCare, which left the current monopolized insurance system fully in tact. They also refused to move taxes back to the Clinton rates, preferring instead to side with the GOP and split the difference. Again, they told Pelosi to fuck off on the most important issues of the Obama presidency.

An equivalent piece of legislation would have been if a coalition inside the GOP blocked the full implementation of the Bush Tax Cuts or the Iraq War. This didn't happen. The GOP House and Senate actually supported war funding after the war became unpopular and political suicide. GOP Senators and House members from "Purple" states knowingly cast votes that would result in losing their seats. Why? Because the GOP simply does not tolerate dissent. The Left has long supported a centrist faction. The Right, however, no longer allows any variation from the party line. Politicians who stray from the Far Right are eliminated in the primaries, whereas Blue Dog Democrats are allowed to oppose Pelosi and Obama without any recourse. This is why Lieberman, who helped McCain run against Obama, was welcomed back with open arms. The Democrats give their politicians freedom to oppose the party. The leadership on the Right, however, exercises total control over their members. If you fuck with Dick Chaney or the Koch brothers, you lose your job. Period. End of story.

 

[Flopper]

Not allowed in the Democrat party anymore. The party was hijacked openly by the far left during the Carter years and has not looked back.

They were once called Blue Dog Democrats, but the far left made sure they did not have a voice in the party.

Conservatives and the GOP .. rightwingers ... palace coup ... news flash

And even more boring far left propaganda.

Yet the greatest propaganda coup of conservatives has been to convince citizens that we are in the grip of a liberal conspiracy.

 

[Kosh]

Conservatives and the GOP .. rightwingers ... palace coup ... news flash

And even more boring far left propaganda.

Enough with the far right propaganda.

Says the far left Obama drone.

 

[Kosh]

Conservatives and the GOP .. rightwingers ... palace coup ... news flash

And even more boring far left propaganda.

Yet the greatest propaganda coup of conservatives has been to convince citizens that we are in the grip of a liberal conspiracy.

Even more boring far left propaganda!

 

[rdean]

It's OK folks. The real complaint is that Republicans are 90% white and hate the fact they don't control America anymore. Poor pathetic things with their fragile egos and their fear. Especially the fear. So sad.

 

[Kosh]

It's OK folks. The real complaint is that Republicans are 90% white and hate the fact they don't control America anymore. Poor pathetic things with their fragile egos and their fear. Especially the fear. So sad.

Says the far left Obama drone that supports the rich far left white male elitists.

 

[Publius1787]

Is there really such a thing anymore? All I see from that party are nothing but whacked out Leftists and Communists.

No kidding. American Socialists Release Names of 70 Congressional Democrats in Their Ranks | The Gateway Pundit

The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.
This admission was recently posted on Scribd.com:


American Socialist Voter–
Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
A: Seventy

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?
A: See the listing below

Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members
Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

 

[Borillar]

And even more boring far left propaganda.

Enough with the far right propaganda.

Says the far left Obama drone.

Says the Repugli-bot.